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Gosh, I put that badly!

It seems Millie was not the only casualty. The vet has put me in touch with
a bod from a government investigation unit, who informs me that a near
neighbour has also lost a cat to the same symptoms, and that they are
investigating. They were not the only cats to die apparently.

He asked a lot of questions, and from this he is beginning to think that a
recent influx of moles may be a factor. Someone may be poisoning the moles,
and the cats are catching and eating them. We should know more in two weeks
when the results of the tests on one of the other dead cats are back.

Meanwhile, I am having to keep my other cat indoors. Suzie is quarter
Siamese, she seems to have inherited the vocal chords and the attitude, and
boy, is she letting me know about it!

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"Kathy" wrote...
Gosh, I put that badly!

It seems Millie was not the only casualty. The vet has put me in touch
with a bod from a government investigation unit, who informs me that a
near neighbour has also lost a cat to the same symptoms, and that they are
investigating. They were not the only cats to die apparently.

He asked a lot of questions, and from this he is beginning to think that a
recent influx of moles may be a factor. Someone may be poisoning the
moles, and the cats are catching and eating them. We should know more in
two weeks when the results of the tests on one of the other dead cats are
back.

Meanwhile, I am having to keep my other cat indoors. Suzie is quarter
Siamese, she seems to have inherited the vocal chords and the attitude,
and boy, is she letting me know about it!

Just over two months ago one of our cats, the one that lives mostly outside,
came home rather poorly and then spent 4 days at the Vets on a drip, no idea
what caused it. Then a week later a neighbour found an otherwise healthy
looking fox dying in her garden. We suspect some nasty person put out some
poison.

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Bob Hobden ] said:

"Kathy" wrote...
Gosh, I put that badly!

It seems Millie was not the only casualty. The vet has put me in touch
with a bod from a government investigation unit, who informs me that a
near neighbour has also lost a cat to the same symptoms, and that they are
investigating. They were not the only cats to die apparently.

He asked a lot of questions, and from this he is beginning to think that a
recent influx of moles may be a factor. Someone may be poisoning the
moles, and the cats are catching and eating them. We should know more in
two weeks when the results of the tests on one of the other dead cats are
back.

Meanwhile, I am having to keep my other cat indoors. Suzie is quarter
Siamese, she seems to have inherited the vocal chords and the attitude,
and boy, is she letting me know about it!

Just over two months ago one of our cats, the one that lives mostly outside,
came home rather poorly and then spent 4 days at the Vets on a drip, no idea
what caused it. Then a week later a neighbour found an otherwise healthy
looking fox dying in her garden. We suspect some nasty person put out some
poison.


Change "nasty" to "exasperated and at the end of their tether" and you
might well be on the ball, unless you truly believe that people who
resort to poisoning do so for the pleasure of it. But when it is your
animal that has pushed a neighbour to this behaviour I suppose it is
easier for the conscience to consider them simply 'nasty' and you and
your "pet" free of any contribution whatsoever.
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On 2009-09-26 13:13:52 +0100, Yellow said:

Bob Hobden ] said:

"Kathy" wrote...
Gosh, I put that badly!

It seems Millie was not the only casualty. The vet has put me in touch
with a bod from a government investigation unit, who informs me that a
near neighbour has also lost a cat to the same symptoms, and that they are
investigating. They were not the only cats to die apparently.

He asked a lot of questions, and from this he is beginning to think that a
recent influx of moles may be a factor. Someone may be poisoning the
moles, and the cats are catching and eating them. We should know more in
two weeks when the results of the tests on one of the other dead cats are
back.

Meanwhile, I am having to keep my other cat indoors. Suzie is quarter
Siamese, she seems to have inherited the vocal chords and the attitude,
and boy, is she letting me know about it!

Just over two months ago one of our cats, the one that lives mostly outside,
came home rather poorly and then spent 4 days at the Vets on a drip, no idea
what caused it. Then a week later a neighbour found an otherwise healthy
looking fox dying in her garden. We suspect some nasty person put out some
poison.


Change "nasty" to "exasperated and at the end of their tether" and you
might well be on the ball, unless you truly believe that people who
resort to poisoning do so for the pleasure of it. But when it is your
animal that has pushed a neighbour to this behaviour I suppose it is
easier for the conscience to consider them simply 'nasty' and you and
your "pet" free of any contribution whatsoever.


Your nom de net is well chosen. Poison is a filthy way to express your
'exasperation' with an animal.
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Change "nasty" to "exasperated and at the end of their tether" and you
might well be on the ball, unless you truly believe that people who
resort to poisoning do so for the pleasure of it. But when it is your
animal that has pushed a neighbour to this behaviour I suppose it is
easier for the conscience to consider them simply 'nasty' and you and
your "pet" free of any contribution whatsoever.
So, according to you, I'm justified in poisoning a nasty neighbour just because I'm fed up with his behavour?


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Your nom de net is well chosen. Poison is a filthy way to express your
'exasperation' with an animal.


Judging by the antisocial attitude of some cat owners who post on this
group it doesn't come as any surprise to me that the only resort left to
those who are fed up with uncontrolled stray "pets" is poisoning.


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On 2009-09-26 15:12:10 +0100, Alan said:

In message , Sacha
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Your nom de net is well chosen. Poison is a filthy way to express your
'exasperation' with an animal.


Judging by the antisocial attitude of some cat owners who post on this
group it doesn't come as any surprise to me that the only resort left
to those who are fed up with uncontrolled stray "pets" is poisoning.


I've never once seen an antisocial attitude by cat owners and I've been
here about 10 years.
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"Yellow" wrote...
Bob Hobden said:
"Kathy" wrote...
Gosh, I put that badly!

It seems Millie was not the only casualty. The vet has put me in touch
with a bod from a government investigation unit, who informs me that a
near neighbour has also lost a cat to the same symptoms, and that they
are
investigating. They were not the only cats to die apparently.

He asked a lot of questions, and from this he is beginning to think
that a
recent influx of moles may be a factor. Someone may be poisoning the
moles, and the cats are catching and eating them. We should know more
in
two weeks when the results of the tests on one of the other dead cats
are
back.

Meanwhile, I am having to keep my other cat indoors. Suzie is quarter
Siamese, she seems to have inherited the vocal chords and the attitude,
and boy, is she letting me know about it!

Just over two months ago one of our cats, the one that lives mostly
outside,
came home rather poorly and then spent 4 days at the Vets on a drip, no
idea
what caused it. Then a week later a neighbour found an otherwise healthy
looking fox dying in her garden. We suspect some nasty person put out
some
poison.


Change "nasty" to "exasperated and at the end of their tether" and you
might well be on the ball, unless you truly believe that people who
resort to poisoning do so for the pleasure of it. But when it is your
animal that has pushed a neighbour to this behaviour I suppose it is
easier for the conscience to consider them simply 'nasty' and you and
your "pet" free of any contribution whatsoever.


"exasperated and at the end of their tether" Why would anyone be such with
an animal that has every right to be there? You just have to grow up and to
learn to live with it. A bit of cat poo isn't too bad, digging and
scratching can be a nuisance from foxes it's true, but mice/rats/rabbits are
a lot worse believe me.

Anyone that resorts to such things deserves all they get, there can be no
excuse for such cruelty and it's illegal too.

There are a myriad ways of trying to sort out such a problem before you
consider such an inhumane way to rid yourself of the nuisance an animal is
causing, talk to the owner, the RSPCA, the Cats Protection League, Local
Council ......

God forbid you got noisy selfish neighbours, we would be reading about it in
the press.

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Bob Hobden
just W. of London



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Bob Hobden ] said:

"Kathy" wrote...
Gosh, I put that badly!

It seems Millie was not the only casualty. The vet has put me in touch
with a bod from a government investigation unit, who informs me that a
near neighbour has also lost a cat to the same symptoms, and that they
are
investigating. They were not the only cats to die apparently.

He asked a lot of questions, and from this he is beginning to think
that a
recent influx of moles may be a factor. Someone may be poisoning the
moles, and the cats are catching and eating them. We should know more
in
two weeks when the results of the tests on one of the other dead cats
are
back.

Meanwhile, I am having to keep my other cat indoors. Suzie is quarter
Siamese, she seems to have inherited the vocal chords and the attitude,
and boy, is she letting me know about it!

Just over two months ago one of our cats, the one that lives mostly
outside,
came home rather poorly and then spent 4 days at the Vets on a drip, no
idea
what caused it. Then a week later a neighbour found an otherwise healthy
looking fox dying in her garden. We suspect some nasty person put out
some
poison.


Change "nasty" to "exasperated and at the end of their tether" and you
might well be on the ball, unless you truly believe that people who
resort to poisoning do so for the pleasure of it. But when it is your
animal that has pushed a neighbour to this behaviour I suppose it is
easier for the conscience to consider them simply 'nasty' and you and
your "pet" free of any contribution whatsoever.


Millie took a week and a half to die. The prat [I use that term rather than
*******, as we are still hoping it was accidental] that left the poison
around for her and, it now seems, a number of other pets, to find did not
use anything recognisable. If you think putting a domestic pet - not a
rodent - through that is justified then you are not a neighbour I would wish
for.
Then again, as you haven't got the guts to post under your own name, you
aren't worth knowing anyway.

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Millie took a week and a half to die. The prat [I use that term rather than
*******, as we are still hoping it was accidental] that left the poison
around for her and, it now seems, a number of other pets, to find did not
use anything recognisable. If you think putting a domestic pet - not a
rodent - through that is justified then you are not a neighbour I would wish
for.
Then again, as you haven't got the guts to post under your own name, you
aren't worth knowing anyway.


This is the point I 've been making about double standards! A pet owner
blaming others for their own irresponsible behaviour in not keeping
their pet under control - and then coming to news groups for sympathy.

While it may be a "pet" whilst on your property it often is a pest, and
no different to a rodent, when it roams and is a _constant_ nuisance on
other peoples property.

Why are you so surprised when you cannot be bothered to look after your
animal that it has come to harm?

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In message , Kathy
wrote

Millie took a week and a half to die. The prat [I use that term rather than
*******, as we are still hoping it was accidental] that left the poison
around for her and, it now seems, a number of other pets, to find did not
use anything recognisable. If you think putting a domestic pet - not a
rodent - through that is justified then you are not a neighbour I would wish
for.
Then again, as you haven't got the guts to post under your own name, you
aren't worth knowing anyway.


This is the point I 've been making about double standards! A pet owner
blaming others for their own irresponsible behaviour in not keeping
their pet under control - and then coming to news groups for sympathy.

While it may be a "pet" whilst on your property it often is a pest, and
no different to a rodent, when it roams and is a _constant_ nuisance on
other peoples property.

Why are you so surprised when you cannot be bothered to look after your
animal that it has come to harm?


Give it a rest, the law is quite clear a cats owner is not responsible
for what the cat does.
Indeed you may be shocked to discover that a farmer is not obliged to
keep his animals off your land, that is your responsibility to maintain
the boundry (except the highways where they do have a responsibility to
prevent stock from wandering)

A completly different set of laws says it is illegal to cause harm or
suffering to any animals. a further set of laws says that you may not
cause harm or disturbance to wild animals without a licence, the
exceptions being those animals designated vermine.

should you dissagree with the laws in this country then use your vote to
change them, if you find that you are in the minority and you can not get
them changed either move or shut up about it.
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