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Titchmarsh comeback?
The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will
return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. It's a great tool of the trade for a tv presenter and especially one who's actually trying to teach people something. IOO, all will be well if it's a proper gardening programme that does *not* rely on an instant makeover formula, however. Alan T and one other (Toby Buckland, Carol Klein, Joe Swift?) would be quite enough and perhaps they could focus on some real garden work! PS Isn't it fortunate that we *didn't* all just 'switch off'? ;-)) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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Sacha writes
The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) -- Kay |
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On Nov 6, 10:31*am, K wrote:
Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. *This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. *I hope it materialises. *I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. *I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) -- Kay I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) Judith |
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On 2009-11-06 10:31:10 +0000, K said:
Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) That was the format for Ground Force but I don't think it's his GW style. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 2009-11-06 10:45:16 +0000, Martin said:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:31:10 +0000, K wrote: Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) Optimist. On the same basis, I foresee Adrian Chiles taking over GW. Benny Hill's cousin you mean! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 2009-11-06 11:07:21 +0000, Judith in France
said: On Nov 6, 10:31*am, K wrote: Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. *This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. *I hope it materialises. *I think he's a really goo d presenter and he does know his gardening. *I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) -- Kay I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) Judith I don't think he can be blamed for being good at several things and popular! You have to make a living when you can! But I have to admit, also, that we haven't seen him much doing anything else, so haven't suffered 'Titchmarsh fatigue'! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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"K" wrote in message ... Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) -- Just be thankful it's not Terry Wogan. mark |
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"mark" wrote in message o.uk... Just be thankful it's not Terry Wogan. mark or Jonathan 'W'oss or David Mellor :-((( -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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On 2009-11-06 12:30:42 +0000, Martin said:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:48:33 +0000, Sacha wrote: On 2009-11-06 11:07:21 +0000, Judith in France said: On Nov 6, 10:31*am, K wrote: Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. *This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. *I hope it materialises. *I think he's a really goo d presenter and he does know his gardening. *I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) -- Kay I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) Judith I don't think he can be blamed for being good at several things and popular! You have to make a living when you can! But I have to admit, also, that we haven't seen him much doing anything else, so haven't suffered 'Titchmarsh fatigue'! He has an afternoon chat show, which you have managed to avoid. :) We so rarely watch daytime tv, other than weather forecasts which often turns into Ray having a crafty toews-up for 20 minutes or so! I always feel a lot guilty if I watch tv during the day unless I'm ill and allowed to be sorry for myself! -- Sacha |
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On 2009-11-06 14:35:13 +0000, Judith in France
said: On Nov 6, 11:48*am, Sacha wrote: On 2009-11-06 11:07:21 +0000, Judith in France said: On Nov 6, 10:31*am, K wrote: Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. *This follows scores of complaint s about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardeni ng tips and advice. *I hope it materialises. *I think he's a really goo d presenter and he does know his gardening. *I know I've said it befo re but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential ' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) -- Kay I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) Judith I don't think he can be blamed for being good at several things and popular! *You have to make a living when you can! *But I have to admi t, also, that we haven't seen him much doing anything else, so haven't suffered 'Titchmarsh fatigue'! -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon He reminds me of a certain poster, I won't say which group as I'm sure you will get the connection :-) It's his always having an answer for everything, now who does this remind you of? No, don't say it :-) Judith Not I. I'd rather we kept it nice and peaceful. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 2009-11-06 11:57:18 +0000, "mark" said:
"K" wrote in message ... Sacha writes The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. I find him immensely irritating, and his jokey style and 'confidential' asides patronising. But if he does go back to Gardeners World (which I don't watch), maybe we'll see less of him elsewhere :-) -- Just be thankful it's not Terry Wogan. mark He doesn't do gardening and has said so when interviewed at Chelsea. I've never seen a more fatuous waste of tv time! However, I must say also that my husand is one of the TOGs. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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Judith in France wrote: On Nov 6, 11:12=A0am, Martin wrote: I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) but we rumbled you long ago, Judith. :o) Obviously you are on course for a good slap or as O says a thwap!!. Together with a tickle? Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Nov 6, 4:33*pm, wrote:
In article , Judith in France wrote: On Nov 6, 11:12=A0am, Martin wrote: I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) but we rumbled you long ago, Judith. :o) Obviously you are on course for a good slap or as O says a thwap!!. Together with a tickle? Regards, Nick Maclaren. Oh I dunno, wouldn't want to be tooooooooo forward :-) Judith |
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"Judith in France" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 4:33 pm, wrote: In article , Judith in France wrote: On Nov 6, 11:12=A0am, Martin wrote: I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) but we rumbled you long ago, Judith. :o) Obviously you are on course for a good slap or as O says a thwap!!. Together with a tickle? Regards, Nick Maclaren. Oh I dunno, wouldn't want to be tooooooooo forward :-) 'ere! I don't do the tickling thingie:) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. It's a great tool of the trade for a tv presenter and especially one who's actually trying to teach people something. IOO, all will be well if it's a proper gardening programme that does *not* rely on an instant makeover formula, however. Alan T and one other (Toby Buckland, Carol Klein, Joe Swift?) would be quite enough and perhaps they could focus on some real garden work! PS Isn't it fortunate that we *didn't* all just 'switch off'? ;-)) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon oh good - I might start watching again Chris S |
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Ophelia wrote: "Judith in France" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 4:33 pm, wrote: In article , Judith in France wrote: On Nov 6, 11:12=A0am, Martin wrote: I have to admit he also irritates me, he is so over exposed and I see him popping up all over the place as an expert on just about everything, mind you we have a few on group, from time to time, who think they know it all :-) but we rumbled you long ago, Judith. :o) Obviously you are on course for a good slap or as O says a thwap!!. Together with a tickle? Regards, Nick Maclaren. Oh I dunno, wouldn't want to be tooooooooo forward :-) 'ere! I don't do the tickling thingie:) Aww............spoil sport ;) -- Buy a poppy....help a serviceman Also.... http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/donations.html Pete C London UK |
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Sacha wrote: The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. It's a great tool of the trade for a tv presenter and especially one who's actually trying to teach people something. IOO, all will be well if it's a proper gardening programme that does *not* rely on an instant makeover formula, however. Alan T and one other (Toby Buckland, Carol Klein, Joe Swift?) would be quite enough and perhaps they could focus on some real garden work! PS Isn't it fortunate that we *didn't* all just 'switch off'? ;-)) Carol.....er, no. Joe....his allotment bit isn't bad. Toby.....would be fine if he could be himself instead of following some daft producers script. -- Buy a poppy....help a serviceman Also.... http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/donations.html Pete C London UK |
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"Pete C" wrote in message
... Sacha wrote: The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. It's a great tool of the trade for a tv presenter and especially one who's actually trying to teach people something. IOO, all will be well if it's a proper gardening programme that does *not* rely on an instant makeover formula, however. Alan T and one other (Toby Buckland, Carol Klein, Joe Swift?) would be quite enough and perhaps they could focus on some real garden work! PS Isn't it fortunate that we *didn't* all just 'switch off'? ;-)) Carol.....er, no. Joe....his allotment bit isn't bad. Toby.....would be fine if he could be himself instead of following some daft producers script. -- Buy a poppy....help a serviceman Also.... http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/donations.html Pete C London UK I agree, Pete, that Toby is fine and could be very good if i) he didn't follow that lame script and ii) if he fronted a proper gardening show (in the manner of St. Geoff Hamilton) instead of anchoring a handful of 5 minute slots. When the producers learn that gardeners have a longer attention span than most (comes of waiting for plants to grow), they might cobble together a half useful prog. In Geoff's day, I was so inspired and enthused by his program, I could hardly wait to get out in the garden! I confess I find Alan T a little trivial at times, but he is knowledgeable and presents well although, even when he took over, the programme was reduced to a few nibbles rather than one good bite. That may not be his fault of course, and he does seem to get many of the ladies all aflutter :~)! Spider |
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Spider wrote: "Pete C" wrote in message ... Sacha wrote: The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. It's a great tool of the trade for a tv presenter and especially one who's actually trying to teach people something. IOO, all will be well if it's a proper gardening programme that does *not* rely on an instant makeover formula, however. Alan T and one other (Toby Buckland, Carol Klein, Joe Swift?) would be quite enough and perhaps they could focus on some real garden work! PS Isn't it fortunate that we *didn't* all just 'switch off'? ;-)) Carol.....er, no. Joe....his allotment bit isn't bad. Toby.....would be fine if he could be himself instead of following some daft producers script. -- Buy a poppy....help a serviceman Also.... http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/donations.html Pete C London UK I agree, Pete, that Toby is fine and could be very good if i) he didn't follow that lame script and ii) if he fronted a proper gardening show (in the manner of St. Geoff Hamilton) instead of anchoring a handful of 5 minute slots. When the producers learn that gardeners have a longer attention span than most (comes of waiting for plants to grow), they might cobble together a half useful prog. In Geoff's day, I was so inspired and enthused by his program, I could hardly wait to get out in the garden! I confess I find Alan T a little trivial at times, but he is knowledgeable and presents well although, even when he took over, the programme was reduced to a few nibbles rather than one good bite. That may not be his fault of course, and he does seem to get many of the ladies all aflutter :~)! Spider Many of the gripes over the current prog are down to production rather than presenters. The presenters are all knowledgleable, and like most on this group, would love to enthuse on their favorite subject.................alas that isn't allowed :( -- Buy a poppy....help a serviceman Also.... http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/donations.html Pete C London UK |
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"Pete C" wrote in message
... Spider wrote: "Pete C" wrote in message ... Sacha wrote: The BBC is 'in talks' with Alan Titchmarsh in the hope that he will return to front Gardener's World. This follows scores of complaints about the current lacklustre presentation and lack of genuine gardening tips and advice. I hope it materialises. I think he's a really good presenter and he does know his gardening. I know I've said it before but he does have that rare and valuable gift of making everyone feel as if he's talking to them personally. It's a great tool of the trade for a tv presenter and especially one who's actually trying to teach people something. IOO, all will be well if it's a proper gardening programme that does *not* rely on an instant makeover formula, however. Alan T and one other (Toby Buckland, Carol Klein, Joe Swift?) would be quite enough and perhaps they could focus on some real garden work! PS Isn't it fortunate that we *didn't* all just 'switch off'? ;-)) Carol.....er, no. Joe....his allotment bit isn't bad. Toby.....would be fine if he could be himself instead of following some daft producers script. -- Buy a poppy....help a serviceman Also.... http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/donations.html Pete C London UK I agree, Pete, that Toby is fine and could be very good if i) he didn't follow that lame script and ii) if he fronted a proper gardening show (in the manner of St. Geoff Hamilton) instead of anchoring a handful of 5 minute slots. When the producers learn that gardeners have a longer attention span than most (comes of waiting for plants to grow), they might cobble together a half useful prog. In Geoff's day, I was so inspired and enthused by his program, I could hardly wait to get out in the garden! I confess I find Alan T a little trivial at times, but he is knowledgeable and presents well although, even when he took over, the programme was reduced to a few nibbles rather than one good bite. That may not be his fault of course, and he does seem to get many of the ladies all aflutter :~)! Spider Many of the gripes over the current prog are down to production rather than presenters. The presenters are all knowledgleable, and like most on this group, would love to enthuse on their favorite subject.................alas that isn't allowed :( -- Buy a poppy....help a serviceman Also.... http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/donations.html Pete C London UK Yes, a great pity. Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. Spider |
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider"
wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ |
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On 2009-11-09 10:35:42 +0000, ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ said:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns I hope it doesn't just give up altogether. If it does, it would be a foolish move. More and more young people are getting into gardening and most/many are interested in growing their own food above anything else. Our sales of veg. plants have increased greatly over the last few years and seedsmen have found the same is happening. Local schools are also beginning to grow their own fruit and veg. and just last week we received a letter asking us to donate fruit trees and bushes to a local school. People still want ornamental plants and pretty gardens, of course but it would be a huge shame if the BBC doesn't recognise this change in the way people approach their gardens now. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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"®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹" wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns -- Link: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...dener-s-World- mark |
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:45:01 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. A snack for grazing couch potatoes, rather than the G Hamilton nourishing meal for hungry gardeners who've worked up an appetite. Maybe if GW presenters wore fantastic frocks, or some sequiny costume which barely passes as adequate underwear, they'd get more viewers. I'm only surprised they haven't introduced score cards and viewer voting. Let's get Cheryl Kale and Simon Trowell on the panel -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ |
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®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ wrote:
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:45:01 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote: The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. A snack for grazing couch potatoes, rather than the G Hamilton nourishing meal for hungry gardeners who've worked up an appetite. Maybe if GW presenters wore fantastic frocks, or some sequiny costume which barely passes as adequate underwear, they'd get more viewers. I'm only surprised they haven't introduced score cards and viewer voting. Let's get Cheryl Kale and Simon Trowell on the panel LOL, oh very clever, but I think you are both onto something. Bobbie -- http://thingamabobs.co.uk/imagesofcanfordheath7.html |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ contains these words: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. Whateverever target audience it is aiming at, it has missed as evidenced by the diminishing viewing figures. mark |
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Yes, people have found the 'off' button. I did notice that the report in the
Daily Express failed to comment on the huge numbers of uk.rec.gardening subscribers who had written in to complain. It would appear that they just spouted their mouths off here. .. .. .. .. "DID" any urgler actually write to the Beeb? ... Names will be collected on the back of a postage stamp. .. -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk "mark" wrote in message o.uk... "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ contains these words: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. Whateverever target audience it is aiming at, it has missed as evidenced by the diminishing viewing figures. mark |
Titchmarsh comeback?
On 2009-11-09 17:18:36 +0000, "mark" said:
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ contains these words: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. Whateverever target audience it is aiming at, it has missed as evidenced by the diminishing viewing figures. mark Both from talking to customers and reading the majority opinion on here, I think most viewers want straightforward gardening without the fake friendship stuff and the gimmicky sheds etc. It doesn't mean it has to be humourless or without its lighter moments but it does mean less of the celeb culture and more of the cultivation! Roy Lancaster told us that when he was doing his early broadcasting work he was told very sternly to remember that the plants were the stars, not the presenters! That's part of what needs to come back - let's forget the silly hats and scarves and hair and whatever. More plants, less people. AND PLANT NAMES ON THE SCREEN!! Are you listening programme makers? ;-) It's no good showing people plants and not telling them what they are. Learners need to know from scratch and more experienced gardeners want to know the names of new things being launched. We get customers saying "it was on a gardening programme 2 weeks ago, it's blue/yellow/red/orange and it has green leaves that are pointed." Tell them the names. Please! And at the end of the programme - having warned them to be ready to write it down - tell them where there are special courses or days out that would interest gardeners, e.g. Apple Days, or places giving a week end course or a day course on veg and herb growing, or taking cuttings, or how to save seed etc. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
Titchmarsh comeback?
Sascha, has that been copied to the BBC?
If not, why not? -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-11-09 17:18:36 +0000, "mark" said: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ contains these words: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. Whateverever target audience it is aiming at, it has missed as evidenced by the diminishing viewing figures. mark Both from talking to customers and reading the majority opinion on here, I think most viewers want straightforward gardening without the fake friendship stuff and the gimmicky sheds etc. It doesn't mean it has to be humourless or without its lighter moments but it does mean less of the celeb culture and more of the cultivation! Roy Lancaster told us that when he was doing his early broadcasting work he was told very sternly to remember that the plants were the stars, not the presenters! That's part of what needs to come back - let's forget the silly hats and scarves and hair and whatever. More plants, less people. AND PLANT NAMES ON THE SCREEN!! Are you listening programme makers? ;-) It's no good showing people plants and not telling them what they are. Learners need to know from scratch and more experienced gardeners want to know the names of new things being launched. We get customers saying "it was on a gardening programme 2 weeks ago, it's blue/yellow/red/orange and it has green leaves that are pointed." Tell them the names. Please! And at the end of the programme - having warned them to be ready to write it down - tell them where there are special courses or days out that would interest gardeners, e.g. Apple Days, or places giving a week end course or a day course on veg and herb growing, or taking cuttings, or how to save seed etc. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
Titchmarsh comeback?
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-11-09 17:18:36 +0000, "mark" said: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ contains these words: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. Whateverever target audience it is aiming at, it has missed as evidenced by the diminishing viewing figures. mark Both from talking to customers and reading the majority opinion on here, I think most viewers want straightforward gardening without the fake friendship stuff and the gimmicky sheds etc. It doesn't mean it has to be humourless or without its lighter moments but it does mean less of the celeb culture and more of the cultivation! Roy Lancaster told us that when he was doing his early broadcasting work he was told very sternly to remember that the plants were the stars, not the presenters! That's part of what needs to come back - let's forget the silly hats and scarves and hair and whatever. More plants, less people. AND PLANT NAMES ON THE SCREEN!! Are you listening programme makers? ;-) It's no good showing people plants and not telling them what they are. Learners need to know from scratch and more experienced gardeners want to know the names of new things being launched. We get customers saying "it was on a gardening programme 2 weeks ago, it's blue/yellow/red/orange and it has green leaves that are pointed." Tell them the names. Please! And at the end of the programme - having warned them to be ready to write it down - tell them where there are special courses or days out that would interest gardeners, e.g. Apple Days, or places giving a week end course or a day course on veg and herb growing, or taking cuttings, or how to save seed etc. -- I'm sure that the Beeb is well aware of the GW failings and that is why they are having chats with AT. mark |
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On 2009-11-09 18:44:22 +0000, "mark" said:
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-11-09 17:18:36 +0000, "mark" said: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ contains these words: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:43:23 -0000, "Spider" wrote: Knowledge and enthusiasm, as well as an ability to bestow these, is precisely what's needed on GW. I keep watching in the vain hope it will improve but, these days I rarely watch it in 'real time' because I come in late from the garden during the summer. That shows *just* how much it's changed for me: I used to rush in from the garden to catch every second. The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns The trouble is, TV programming has vastly changed since the says of St Geoff ( gardening by and for gardeners). Today GW is aimed at a much wider target audience than gardeners. Just like Strictly Come Dancing. is aimed at people who don't dance. It's entertainment geared to non-participants. Whateverever target audience it is aiming at, it has missed as evidenced by the diminishing viewing figures. mark Both from talking to customers and reading the majority opinion on here, I think most viewers want straightforward gardening without the fake friendship stuff and the gimmicky sheds etc. It doesn't mean it has to be humourless or without its lighter moments but it does mean less of the celeb culture and more of the cultivation! Roy Lancaster told us that when he was doing his early broadcasting work he was told very sternly to remember that the plants were the stars, not the presenters! That's part of what needs to come back - let's forget the silly hats and scarves and hair and whatever. More plants, less people. AND PLANT NAMES ON THE SCREEN!! Are you listening programme makers? ;-) It's no good showing people plants and not telling them what they are. Learners need to know from scratch and more experienced gardeners want to know the names of new things being launched. We get customers saying "it was on a gardening programme 2 weeks ago, it's blue/yellow/red/orange and it has green leaves that are pointed." Tell them the names. Please! And at the end of the programme - having warned them to be ready to write it down - tell them where there are special courses or days out that would interest gardeners, e.g. Apple Days, or places giving a week end course or a day course on veg and herb growing, or taking cuttings, or how to save seed etc. -- I'm sure that the Beeb is well aware of the GW failings and that is why they are having chats with AT. mark They read this group as we know from a former member's experience (IIRC) and they'd be wasting their time if they didn't listen to opinions sent in to them. Nothing else would have caused a change in approach, as happened with coverage of Chelsea. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
Titchmarsh comeback?
In message , Martin
wrote On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:36 -0000, "mark" wrote: http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyT...ammesOverview? 1.84 million w/e 06 Sep 2009 2.11 million w/e 13 Sep 2009 ?? ?? 2.17 million w/e 04 Oct 2009 2.26 million w/e 11 Oct 2009 2.27 million w/e 18 Oct 2009 2.2 million w/e 25 Oct 2009 But Ground Force, the type of gardening programme that people really want, had viewing figures closer to 12million! -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
... Maybe if GW presenters wore fantastic frocks, or some sequiny costume which barely passes as adequate underwear, they'd get more viewers. Thank you Janet. Now I can't get the picture of Toby and Alys in sequined thongs out of my head! -- Kathy |
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In article , ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹
writes The Daily Express today has a big and very critical article outlining how Gardeners' World has gone from bad to worse. Basically saying everything about it is wrong, poor presenters, dumbing down, stupid little garden on waste land (not attached to a house etc) The BBC really needs to up its game and get real or continue to leak viewers when it returns Maybe this dire series will have done us all a favour by showing producers that appealing to the thick, lazy or ignorant is not the way to broadcast Gardening programmes, I for one will be thankful if this means that they learn their lesson! Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Alan contains these words: In message , Martin wrote On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:36 -0000, "mark" wrote: http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyT...ammesOverview? 1.84 million w/e 06 Sep 2009 2.11 million w/e 13 Sep 2009 ?? ?? 2.17 million w/e 04 Oct 2009 2.26 million w/e 11 Oct 2009 2.27 million w/e 18 Oct 2009 2.2 million w/e 25 Oct 2009 But Ground Force, the type of gardening programme that people really want, had viewing figures closer to 12million! That was because of the fashion interest; Tommy's shorts and Charlie's free-range teeshirts. And what a recent programme described as Charlie's "Pre-raphaelite hair" Steve |
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:45:26 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: But Ground Force, the type of gardening programme that people really want, had viewing figures closer to 12million! That was because of the fashion interest; Tommy's shorts and Charlie's free-range teeshirts. And what a recent programme described as Charlie's "Pre-raphaelite hair" and what happened to her teeshirt every time she winsomely tossed her pre-raphaelite head The best tsunami I've ever witnessed. -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ |
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On 2009-11-10 16:43:58 +0000, "mark" said:
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Alan contains these words: In message , Martin wrote On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:36 -0000, "mark" wrote: http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyT...ammesOverview? 1.84 million w/e 06 Sep 2009 2.11 million w/e 13 Sep 2009 ?? ?? 2.17 million w/e 04 Oct 2009 2.26 million w/e 11 Oct 2009 2.27 million w/e 18 Oct 2009 2.2 million w/e 25 Oct 2009 But Ground Force, the type of gardening programme that people really want, had viewing figures closer to 12million! That was because of the fashion interest; Tommy's shorts and Charlie's free-range teeshirts. In GF the garden owner, in every case, just happened to be going away for two days. They would always return at 5.00pm., even Nelson Mandela arrived back at 5. At 4.40 pm., there would always be major jobs that still needed doing. There would always be a heavily loaded wheel barrow which could only be pushed by Charlie requiring her to thrust her 'free range' chest out. mark It did become very formulaic in the end and felt like stuffing yourself on a whole box of chocolates at once. I found it quite interesting from the pov of seeing what design they'd come up with but the whole 'tension' thing became a bit tiresome. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
Titchmarsh comeback?
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Alan contains these words: In message , Martin wrote On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:18:36 -0000, "mark" wrote: http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyT...ammesOverview? 1.84 million w/e 06 Sep 2009 2.11 million w/e 13 Sep 2009 ?? ?? 2.17 million w/e 04 Oct 2009 2.26 million w/e 11 Oct 2009 2.27 million w/e 18 Oct 2009 2.2 million w/e 25 Oct 2009 But Ground Force, the type of gardening programme that people really want, had viewing figures closer to 12million! That was because of the fashion interest; Tommy's shorts and Charlie's free-range teeshirts. In GF the garden owner, in every case, just happened to be going away for two days. They would always return at 5.00pm., even Nelson Mandela arrived back at 5. At 4.40 pm., there would always be major jobs that still needed doing. There would always be a heavily loaded wheel barrow which could only be pushed by Charlie requiring her to thrust her 'free range' chest out. mark |
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:08:16 +0100, Martin wrote:
In GF the garden owner, in every case, just happened to be going away for two days. It was cunningly arranged with an excuse that an average 4 year old would have seen through. The only question in the person's mind must have been which TV he/she would find his/herself on when he/she returned. Purple living room wall or purple fence? They would always return at 5.00pm., even Nelson Mandela arrived back at 5. At 4.40 pm., there would always be major jobs that still needed doing. There would always be a heavily loaded wheel barrow which could only be pushed by Charlie requiring her to thrust her 'free range' chest out. mark It did become very formulaic in the end and felt like stuffing yourself on a whole box of chocolates at once. I found it quite interesting from the pov of seeing what design they'd come up with but the whole 'tension' thing became a bit tiresome. The whole tension thing drives almost every BBC TV programme. I blame Challenge Anneke who may or may not have started the whole thing. Damn, now you've mentioned another two frolicsome puppies in a sack -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ |
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