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I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone
happen to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type
is still grown?
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I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone happen
to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type is still
grown?
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DX%26um%3D1

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"Sacha" wrote in message
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I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone happen
to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type is still
grown?
--
Sacha



http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DX%26um%3D1

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2nd image from the bottom

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On 2009-12-02 11:58:24 +0000, "'Mike'" said:



"Sacha" wrote in message
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I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone happen
to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type is still
grown?
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DX%26um%3D1


Why

thank you. I think that's going to be very useful and help me prove a
point, too.
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:48:07 +0000, Sacha wrote:

I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone
happen to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type
is still grown?


http://cdn-write.demandstudios.com/u...40/6/30946.jpg


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On 2 Dec 2009 12:24:33 GMT, Derek Turner wrote:

On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:48:07 +0000, Sacha wrote:

I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone
happen to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type
is still grown?


http://cdn-write.demandstudios.com/u...40/6/30946.jpg


Cheeky!
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On 2009-12-02 12:24:33 +0000, Derek Turner said:

On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:48:07 +0000, Sacha wrote:

I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone
happen to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type
is still grown?


http://cdn-write.demandstudios.com/u...40/6/30946.jpg


Oh, very cute!! I can't help feeling they should be decorated with
pearls and lace, however. ;-) I've found some seeds in America of the
stripey Harlequin marigolds ( the *flowers*) and have sent for them.
Apparently they're a heritage variety, not to be confused with modern
varieties which are similar.
I think the 18th century gent I'm thinking of might well have had these.
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:48:07 +0000, Sacha wrote:

I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone
happen to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type
is still grown?


I would have thought that calendula officinalis is the more historical
variety than tagetes. Introduced by the Romans, I think. What it
looked like300 years ago cannot be a lot different.

Pam in Bristol
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On 2009-12-03 13:37:32 +0000, Pam Moore said:

On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:48:07 +0000, Sacha wrote:

I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone
happen to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type
is still grown?


I would have thought that calendula officinalis is the more historical
variety than tagetes. Introduced by the Romans, I think. What it
looked like300 years ago cannot be a lot different.

Pam in Bristol


The thing is that at that time, quite a lot of new plants were coming
into Britain - think Capability Brown and others of his stature.
Making great gardens was a status symbol, so while it's not really
possible to be certain of the one I'm looking for, I'm sure it's not
one of the very full and ruffled modern varietiesf. That's probably
about as close as I'll get. It was the Sign of the Marigold that once
was that of Child's Bank in London and there's a particular reason that
I wanted to see what I could find on that. Googling on Child's Bank
shows me what I think - can't be sure - is their Marigold above the
windows on its top storey but as to variety - impossible to say.
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Pam Moore writes
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:48:07 +0000, Sacha wrote:

I have a particular reason for wanting to find out what marigolds would
have looked like in the late 17th, early 18th century. Does anyone
happen to knnow where I'd find an illustration, or indeed if that type
is still grown?


I would have thought that calendula officinalis is the more historical
variety than tagetes. Introduced by the Romans, I think. What it
looked like300 years ago cannot be a lot different.

Presumably much like the wild calendulas in the Med - ie much the same
but a bit more delicate.

Tagetes are a New World genus - don't know when they found their way
across here.
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Tagetes are a New World genus - don't know when they found their way
across here.



There's a woman who spoke to the Lee Church Annual talk . She wrote a
couple of books about imports/plants coming in from other countries and
gave a list of them. Can't think of her name at the moment. Know it was
double barrelled.

Oh right found it after looking through amazon
Maggie Campbell-Culver

She talked at length about what came in when so perhaps her book might
help?

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On 2009-12-03 20:16:46 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:

In article , K
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Tagetes are a New World genus - don't know when they found their way
across here.



There's a woman who spoke to the Lee Church Annual talk . She wrote a
couple of books about imports/plants coming in from other countries and
gave a list of them. Can't think of her name at the moment. Know it was
double barrelled.

Oh right found it after looking through amazon
Maggie Campbell-Culver

She talked at length about what came in when so perhaps her book might help?

Janet


Thanks, Janet. It's probably a little late for me to get that now but
it's one I'd like anyway so I'll turn it into a Christmas present for
someone on the premises! It sounds interesting.

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In article , Sacha
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Thanks, Janet. It's probably a little late for me to get that now but
it's one I'd like anyway so I'll turn it into a Christmas present for
someone on the premises! It sounds interesting.



They've got some on Amazon but not the latest version in stock. Should
be available somewhere.
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