"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-03-18 13:12:58 +0000, "dido22" said:

Hello

I have grown Rosemary in a large pot for many years during the summer
months, and have always thrown it away late Autumn, then bought a new
plant next spring.

I've just bought a new plant ( 'upright Rosemary' ) and I read on its
label that it can be grown into a bush up to 2 metres high !!

Has anyone grown a Rosemary bush before?, does it survive the winter?,
does it smell & taste as good as a new plant does ?

Thanks

KK

It may be Miss Jessop's Upright and some people use it as an informal
hedge. I think 2 metres is pushing it a bit, though. Where do you live?!
We have rosemarys that survive all winters, including this one and it's
usually regarded as pretty hardy. It's a shrub so take cuttings and
propagate new ones but there's no reason at all to throw it away each
year.
--
Sacha,
Do the different varieties smell different? I ask this because the rosemary
that I'm growing in a pot in my kitchen window has a stonger "medicinal"
smell than usual.
Graham

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-03-18 17:54:43 +0000, "graham" said:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-03-18 13:12:58 +0000, "dido22" said:

Hello

I have grown Rosemary in a large pot for many years during the summer
months, and have always thrown it away late Autumn, then bought a new
plant next spring.

I've just bought a new plant ( 'upright Rosemary' ) and I read on its
label that it can be grown into a bush up to 2 metres high !!

Has anyone grown a Rosemary bush before?, does it survive the winter?,
does it smell & taste as good as a new plant does ?

Thanks

KK

It may be Miss Jessop's Upright and some people use it as an informal
hedge. I think 2 metres is pushing it a bit, though. Where do you
live?!
We have rosemarys that survive all winters, including this one and it's
usually regarded as pretty hardy. It's a shrub so take cuttings and
propagate new ones but there's no reason at all to throw it away each
year.
--
Sacha,
Do the different varieties smell different? I ask this because the
rosemary
that I'm growing in a pot in my kitchen window has a stonger "medicinal"
smell than usual.
Graham

Not that I know of, Graham. What medium is it growing in?

I re-potted it in a standard potting soil which has quite a high "fibre"
content, presumably sphagnum.

We have several rosemaries and they just smell of rosemary. The
differences are in flower colour and growth habit and tenderness, too. Do
you know which yours is?

No. I think a lot is grown from seeds from the UK. I bought the plant at
the farmers' market from someone selling herbs in pots. My ~20yr old plant
had died and I bought the replacement on a whim. However, I've never seen
different named varieties in the nurseries. The plant breeders tend to
concentrate on breeding hardy varieties of the bigger stuff such as tree
fruits.

I wonder - and this is pure supposition on my part - if growing it indoors
in Canadian winters might affect it through lack of sunlight?

It's in a south facing bay window so is little different from a greenhouse.
I'm also on approximately the same latitude as Barnstaple! It will be
outside during the summer.

Perhaps it's age, *mine*!! Claret doesn't smell like the clarets I drank in
my 30s {:-(

Could the rosemary's normal flavour become more concentrated, as in a
dried herb?

I never dry it and never use dried rosemary. I would have thought the
flavour wouldn't be as strong in dried.

As a side note, I'd like to grow some heather. Is it available as seed?
Graham

On 03/18/2010 10:30 PM, graham wrote:
Perhaps it's age, *mine*!! Claret doesn't smell like the clarets I drank in
my 30s {:-(


Sadly that's as likely the claret as your nose, Graham. Most claret
today is made for drinking within several years of production, not
laying down as before. This change is much remarked on in the wine
community.

cheers none the less!

-E

"Emery Davis" wrote in message
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On 03/18/2010 10:30 PM, graham wrote:
Perhaps it's age, *mine*!! Claret doesn't smell like the clarets I drank
in
my 30s {:-(


Sadly that's as likely the claret as your nose, Graham. Most claret
today is made for drinking within several years of production, not
laying down as before. This change is much remarked on in the wine
community.

cheers none the less!

-E
I wondered that! So many of them are barely recognisable as clarets - I
suppose it's all due to Rolland and Parker{:-( I drank the last of the
few 97s I had the other day. I know, I should have finished them long ago
but this was a Gruaud Larose and I've had more pleasure drinking cheap CdRs.
Graham

On 03/19/2010 06:55 PM, graham wrote:
"Emery Davis" wrote in message
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On 03/18/2010 10:30 PM, graham wrote:
Perhaps it's age, *mine*!! Claret doesn't smell like the clarets I drank
in
my 30s {:-(


Sadly that's as likely the claret as your nose, Graham. Most claret
today is made for drinking within several years of production, not
laying down as before. This change is much remarked on in the wine
community.

cheers none the less!

-E
I wondered that! So many of them are barely recognisable as clarets - I
suppose it's all due to Rolland and Parker{:-( I drank the last of the
few 97s I had the other day. I know, I should have finished them long ago
but this was a Gruaud Larose and I've had more pleasure drinking cheap CdRs.
Graham



Ye've named the very devils, particularly that fellow from Monkton.
Even in the CdR, many wine makers talk about engineering a cuvee that
fits his profile.

Too bad about the Gruaud, I'd have expected it to at least be holding up.

-E

On 19 Mar, 08:13, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-03-18 21:30:33 +0000, "graham" said:







"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-03-18 17:54:43 +0000, "graham" said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-03-18 13:12:58 +0000, "dido22" said:

Hello

I have grown Rosemary in a large pot for many years during the summer
months, and have always thrown it away late Autumn, *then bought a new
plant next spring.

I've just bought a new plant ( 'upright Rosemary' ) and I read on its
label that it can be grown into a bush up to 2 metres high !!

Has anyone grown a Rosemary bush before?, does it survive the winter?,
does it smell & taste as good as a new plant does ?

Thanks

KK

It may be Miss Jessop's Upright and some people use it as an informal
hedge. *I think 2 metres is pushing it a bit, though. *Where do you
live?!
We have rosemarys that survive all winters, including this one and it's
usually regarded as pretty hardy. *It's a shrub so take cuttings and
propagate new ones but there's no reason at all to throw it away each
year.
--
Sacha,
Do the different varieties smell different? *I ask this because the
rosemary
that I'm growing in a pot in my kitchen window has a stonger "medicinal"
smell than usual.
Graham

Not that I know of, Graham. *What medium is it growing in?

I re-potted it in a standard potting soil which has quite a high "fibre"
content, presumably sphagnum.

We have several rosemaries and they just smell of rosemary. * The
differences are in flower colour and growth habit and tenderness, too. *Do
you know which yours is?

No. *I think a lot is grown from seeds from the UK. *I bought the plant at
the farmers' market from someone selling herbs in pots. *My ~20yr old plant
had died and I bought the replacement on a whim. *However, I've never seen
different named varieties in the nurseries. *The plant breeders tend to
concentrate on breeding hardy varieties of the bigger stuff such as tree
fruits.

I wonder - and this is pure supposition on my part - if growing it indoors
in Canadian winters might affect it through lack of sunlight?

It's in a south facing bay window so is little different from a greenhouse.
I'm also on approximately the same latitude as Barnstaple! *It will be
outside during the summer.

Barnstaple! *You're practically a Devonian. *;-)



Perhaps it's age, *mine*!! *Claret doesn't smell like the clarets I drank in
my 30s {:-(

This is true! *Things do seem to change when perhaps it's we who change!



Could the rosemary's normal flavour become more concentrated, as in a
dried herb?

I never dry it and never use dried rosemary. *I would have thought the
flavour wouldn't be as strong in dried.

On the whole, the general assumption is that dried herbs are stronger
in flavour, more concentrated but I have only used fresh rosemary from
our garden, with the exception of a herb mix I bought in Crete years
ago.



As a side note, I'd like to grow some heather. *Is it available as seed?
Graham

Yes, it can be grown from seed but I've never done it, so I don't know
what the success rate is.
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
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I can't see why anyone would want to grow it from seed, Cuttings take
so easily.
Just as an experiment I bought a packet of fresh rosemary from Tesco,
it was "yellow stickied" so was not the freshest, and put all the
stems in as cuttings, the strike rate was well over 50%, giving me
around 12 plants for the princly sum of 10p.
Re the flavour, strength, I would have put it down to the weather, in
dry sunny times the oil would be more concentrated in the leaves.
David Hill

On 19 Mar, 09:47, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-03-19 09:12:50 +0000, Dave Hill said:





On 19 Mar, 08:13, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-03-18 21:30:33 +0000, "graham" said:

snip

As a side note, I'd like to grow some heather. Is it available as se
ed?
Graham

Yes, it can be grown from seed but I've never done it, so I don't know
what the success rate is.
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I can't see why anyone would want to grow it from seed, Cuttings take
so easily.
Just as an experiment I bought a packet of fresh rosemary from Tesco,
it was "yellow stickied" so was not the freshest, and put all the
stems in as cuttings, the strike rate was well over 50%, giving me
around 12 plants for the princly sum of 10p.
Re the flavour, strength, I would have put it down to the weather, in
dry sunny times the oil would be more concentrated in the leaves.
David Hill

It's heather he'd like to try from seed, David. *Have you ever done
that? *I haven't but then I'm not that keen on heathers in gardens.
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Typical age thing didn't notice the bit about Heathers.
I've never seen heather seed for sale, but thinking how many heather
seedlings used to grow from peat based compost it should be a
reasonable proposition.
The only seed I can find on offer is the wild Ling
David Hill

On 19 Mar, 10:06, Dave Hill wrote:
On 19 Mar, 09:47, Sacha wrote:





On 2010-03-19 09:12:50 +0000, Dave Hill said:

On 19 Mar, 08:13, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-03-18 21:30:33 +0000, "graham" said:

snip

As a side note, I'd like to grow some heather. Is it available as se
ed?
Graham

Yes, it can be grown from seed but I've never done it, so I don't know
what the success rate is.
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I can't see why anyone would want to grow it from seed, Cuttings take
so easily.
Just as an experiment I bought a packet of fresh rosemary from Tesco,
it was "yellow stickied" so was not the freshest, and put all the
stems in as cuttings, the strike rate was well over 50%, giving me
around 12 plants for the princly sum of 10p.
Re the flavour, strength, I would have put it down to the weather, in
dry sunny times the oil would be more concentrated in the leaves.
David Hill

It's heather he'd like to try from seed, David. *Have you ever done
that? *I haven't but then I'm not that keen on heathers in gardens.
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Typical age thing didn't notice the bit about Heathers.
I've never seen heather seed for sale, but thinking how many heather
seedlings used to grow from peat based compost it should be a
reasonable proposition.
The only seed I can find on offer is the wild Ling
David Hill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just found this on heathers from seed
http://www.heathersociety.org.uk/propagation.html
Now I must get out and work
David Hill

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2010-03-19 10:15:25 +0000, Dave Hill
said:

On 19 Mar, 10:06, Dave Hill wrote:
On 19 Mar, 09:47, Sacha wrote:





On 2010-03-19 09:12:50 +0000, Dave Hill
said:

On 19 Mar, 08:13, Sacha wrote:
On 2010-03-18 21:30:33 +0000, "graham" said:

snip

As a side note, I'd like to grow some heather. Is it available as s
e
ed?
Graham

Yes, it can be grown from seed but I've never done it, so I don't kn
ow
what the success rate is.
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I can't see why anyone would want to grow it from seed, Cuttings take
so easily.
Just as an experiment I bought a packet of fresh rosemary from Tesco,
it was "yellow stickied" so was not the freshest, and put all the
stems in as cuttings, the strike rate was well over 50%, giving me
around 12 plants for the princly sum of 10p.
Re the flavour, strength, I would have put it down to the weather, in
dry sunny times the oil would be more concentrated in the leaves.
David Hill

It's heather he'd like to try from seed, David. Have you ever done
that? I haven't but then I'm not that keen on heathers in gardens.
--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Typical age thing didn't notice the bit about Heathers.
I've never seen heather seed for sale, but thinking how many heather
seedlings used to grow from peat based compost it should be a
reasonable proposition.
The only seed I can find on offer is the wild Ling
David Hill- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just found this on heathers from seed
http://www.heathersociety.org.uk/propagation.html
Now I must get out and work
David Hill

By canoe? It's pouring here and we have a funeral 'reception' this
afternoon in the tea room for someone who's died in this village. It's
real funeral weather. ;-(
--
Sacha

It snowed here last night!
Graham