A few days ago I decided to turn over some copost, a job I hate but we have
to do it.

On Saturday one of my neighbours asked me to temporarily move the heap so
he could have sone elbow room to point up his garage, guess what I did.
Stabbed a hedgehog behind its front leg with my fork.

I thought it too early for hibernation in mid October.

Anyway we all panicked a bit and daughter tried ringing her vet but its
Saturday afternoon and they are closed. Neighbours wife found a number for
the RSPCA.
Monday daughter rings her vet because RSPCA has not shown and vet rings
RSPCA to find out when they will attend and they say "sometime today" so no
need to get another vets bill.

Today is Wednesday and the RSPCA have graced us with their appearance.
Sadly he or she died and probably in great pain early on Tuesday morning.

He tried to bollo*k us for wasting his time for christs sake.

If my daughter was not so small he would have had one on the chin.

Baz

"Baz" wrote ...
A few days ago I decided to turn over some copost, a job I hate but we
have
to do it.

On Saturday one of my neighbours asked me to temporarily move the heap so
he could have sone elbow room to point up his garage, guess what I did.
Stabbed a hedgehog behind its front leg with my fork.

I thought it too early for hibernation in mid October.

Anyway we all panicked a bit and daughter tried ringing her vet but its
Saturday afternoon and they are closed. Neighbours wife found a number for
the RSPCA.
Monday daughter rings her vet because RSPCA has not shown and vet rings
RSPCA to find out when they will attend and they say "sometime today" so
no
need to get another vets bill.

Today is Wednesday and the RSPCA have graced us with their appearance.
Sadly he or she died and probably in great pain early on Tuesday morning.

He tried to bollo*k us for wasting his time for christs sake.

If my daughter was not so small he would have had one on the chin.

You hear so many stories about these charities these days...

RNLI paying millions for a new office block with subsidised meals and
telling sailors that risk their lives for nothing they have to purchase
their own lights from Halfords because they can't afford to supply
specialist ones.**
RHS employing a number of new managers (18?) and sacking 100 gardeners
because the wages bill has gone through the roof.
RSPCA as above post and more similar going back some years.

I think these are all run by people whose families would have sent them into
the Church in the olden days, they all seem totally incompetent. They have
all certainly lost sight of what their organisation was set up for and what
the priorities should be to achieve that.

** RNLI if you want to give to them then give it to an actual Lifeboat
Station, in their own pot at the station, that goes to that lifeboat station
and does not go in the general pot to pay for the new Head Offices and
staff.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

"Bob Hobden" wrote in
:


You hear so many stories about these charities these days...

RNLI paying millions for a new office block with subsidised meals and
telling sailors that risk their lives for nothing they have to
purchase their own lights from Halfords because they can't afford to
supply specialist ones.**
RHS employing a number of new managers (18?) and sacking 100 gardeners
because the wages bill has gone through the roof.
RSPCA as above post and more similar going back some years.

I think these are all run by people whose families would have sent
them into the Church in the olden days, they all seem totally
incompetent. They have all certainly lost sight of what their
organisation was set up for and what the priorities should be to
achieve that.

** RNLI if you want to give to them then give it to an actual Lifeboat
Station, in their own pot at the station, that goes to that lifeboat
station and does not go in the general pot to pay for the new Head
Offices and staff.


Following your above comments I googled and found astonishingly that of the
monies collected only a small % as little as 4% actually goes where donors
money is intended.
Can this be right?
Why do we not see this on the front page of our papers?
We are off topic now I know but this is something we all need to know.

Baz

"Baz" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
You hear so many stories about these charities these days...

RNLI paying millions for a new office block with subsidised meals and
telling sailors that risk their lives for nothing they have to
purchase their own lights from Halfords because they can't afford to
supply specialist ones.**
RHS employing a number of new managers (18?) and sacking 100 gardeners
because the wages bill has gone through the roof.
RSPCA as above post and more similar going back some years.

I think these are all run by people whose families would have sent
them into the Church in the olden days, they all seem totally
incompetent. They have all certainly lost sight of what their
organisation was set up for and what the priorities should be to
achieve that.

** RNLI if you want to give to them then give it to an actual Lifeboat
Station, in their own pot at the station, that goes to that lifeboat
station and does not go in the general pot to pay for the new Head
Offices and staff.


Following your above comments I googled and found astonishingly that of
the
monies collected only a small % as little as 4% actually goes where donors
money is intended.
Can this be right?
Why do we not see this on the front page of our papers?
We are off topic now I know but this is something we all need to know.

Strange isn't it that this is kept quiet, our "wonderful" Sunday papers who
love to dig the dirt don't say a word, why?
Yet more and more of us are questioning what is happening with these huge
charities.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

"Baz" wrote in message
...
"Bob Hobden" wrote in
:


You hear so many stories about these charities these days...

RNLI paying millions for a new office block with subsidised meals and
telling sailors that risk their lives for nothing they have to
purchase their own lights from Halfords because they can't afford to
supply specialist ones.**
RHS employing a number of new managers (18?) and sacking 100 gardeners
because the wages bill has gone through the roof.
RSPCA as above post and more similar going back some years.

I think these are all run by people whose families would have sent
them into the Church in the olden days, they all seem totally
incompetent. They have all certainly lost sight of what their
organisation was set up for and what the priorities should be to
achieve that.

** RNLI if you want to give to them then give it to an actual Lifeboat
Station, in their own pot at the station, that goes to that lifeboat
station and does not go in the general pot to pay for the new Head
Offices and staff.


Following your above comments I googled and found astonishingly that of
the
monies collected only a small % as little as 4% actually goes where donors
money is intended.
Can this be right?
Why do we not see this on the front page of our papers?
We are off topic now I know but this is something we all need to know.

As someone who works for a charity [SENSE], I was going to keep out of this
[apart from agreeing on the RSPCA] but ...

think about those donation bags that come through your door almost every
week. We employ our own part-time collectors who put out the bags, then go
back and collect them and bring them into the shop. Many charities use
something called Clothes Aid. Very little of the value of the goods you put
in those bags goes to the charity. They also "collect" any charity bag they
see, theirs or not.

Sadly, not all charities use their donations, in money or in kind, to the
best of their ability.

--
Kathy

"Janet" wrote in message
...

Following your above comments I googled and found astonishingly that of
the
monies collected only a small % as little as 4% actually goes where
donors
money is intended.

Which charity are you referring to and what is the source?

Janet


Presumably one of the minor "charities".
Those such as the RSPCA and the RNLI are too big not to get sussed
were they to go down the 4% or similar route.

Regards
Pete

"Jake" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:35:14 +0200, Martin wrote:


The RNLI doesn't appear to be registered as a charity. Odd??

RNLI is a registered charity number 209603.

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk...idiaryNumber=0



Bit rusty on boaty matters is our Martin !

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

"Sacha" wrote in message
...

rusty on boaty matters is our Martin !

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

Martin owns a boat and sails it regularly!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Perhaps he is just a bit rusty on RNLI waters matters then (:-)

Pete

"Sacha" wrote in message
...

Martin owns a boat and sails it regularly!

Peter knows that. :-)

Ah - just muddying the waters, then. ;-)

--
Very murky in his case (:-(

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

"Martin" wrote in message
...

using a large wooden spoon.

Incidentally British Wildlife Fund has the highest overheads that I have
found
so far.


I have only heard of the WWF -along those lines, which I am sure will not be
high on your list.

Some of the smaller charities, I agree, can be verging on the fraudulent
with little benefit accruing to the
published beneficiaries.


Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

"Baz" wrote in message
...
A few days ago I decided to turn over some copost, a job I hate but we have
to do it.

On Saturday one of my neighbours asked me to temporarily move the heap so
he could have sone elbow room to point up his garage, guess what I did.
Stabbed a hedgehog behind its front leg with my fork.

I thought it too early for hibernation in mid October.

Anyway we all panicked a bit and daughter tried ringing her vet but its
Saturday afternoon and they are closed. Neighbours wife found a number for
the RSPCA.
Monday daughter rings her vet because RSPCA has not shown and vet rings
RSPCA to find out when they will attend and they say "sometime today" so
no
need to get another vets bill.

Today is Wednesday and the RSPCA have graced us with their appearance.
Sadly he or she died and probably in great pain early on Tuesday morning.

He tried to bollo*k us for wasting his time for christs sake.

If my daughter was not so small he would have had one on the chin.


I hope you never encounter another hedgehog in distress, but, if you do, you
might find the British Hedgehog Preservation Society's list of carers of
some help. See

http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/carers.htm

for emergency contact details.

"Baz" wrote in message
...
A few days ago I decided to turn over some copost, a job I hate but we have
to do it.

On Saturday one of my neighbours asked me to temporarily move the heap so
he could have sone elbow room to point up his garage, guess what I did.
Stabbed a hedgehog behind its front leg with my fork.

I thought it too early for hibernation in mid October.

Anyway we all panicked a bit and daughter tried ringing her vet but its
Saturday afternoon and they are closed. Neighbours wife found a number for
the RSPCA.
Monday daughter rings her vet because RSPCA has not shown and vet rings
RSPCA to find out when they will attend and they say "sometime today" so
no
need to get another vets bill.

Today is Wednesday and the RSPCA have graced us with their appearance.
Sadly he or she died and probably in great pain early on Tuesday morning.

He tried to bollo*k us for wasting his time for christs sake.

If my daughter was not so small he would have had one on the chin.

I have, famously, or infamously perhaps, posted on newsgroups about my
experiences with the RSPCA.
I will not bore you with how they killed my elderly cat when she was
wandering, confused, looking for me when I was admitted to hospital as a
emergency.
They are not at all like they are portrayed on the TV programmes, rushing to
help. If they can get out of anything, they will do and as for donating to
them, I would not give them the drippings of my nose.
You've just experienced their help with the hedgehog. I'm sorry this
happened, but it is typical, IME.
Tina

Baz wrote:
A few days ago I decided to turn over some copost, a job I hate but we have
to do it.

On Saturday one of my neighbours asked me to temporarily move the heap so
he could have sone elbow room to point up his garage, guess what I did.
Stabbed a hedgehog behind its front leg with my fork.

Well, they'll be an ASBO coming near you soon :-)

Frank Booth Snr wrote in
o.uk:

Baz wrote:
A few days ago I decided to turn over some copost, a job I hate but
we have to do it.

On Saturday one of my neighbours asked me to temporarily move the
heap so he could have sone elbow room to point up his garage, guess
what I did. Stabbed a hedgehog behind its front leg with my fork.

Well, they'll be an ASBO coming near you soon :-)


??
What?

You may well have found this already but you can download an RSPCA Comments
and Complaints leaflet here. Might be of some use.
http://www.rspca.org.uk/utilities/fa...entsComplaints

The self help group might be able to offer some advice about making an
effective complaint
http://the-shg.org/selfhelp.htm

Or you could always try emailing the RSPCA CEO Mark Watts directly


HTH

Tim