Very overcast, slight breeze occasional gust, forecast says heavy snow
today. Trying to snow/rain at 0830. Had to clear thick ice off bird baths

Not had any significant snow at all SE Isle of Wight.

What have you got and where are you?

Mike

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Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
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On Nov 30, 8:34*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
Very overcast, slight breeze occasional gust, forecast says heavy snow
today. Trying to snow/rain at 0830. Had to clear thick ice off bird baths

Not had any significant snow at all SE Isle of Wight.

What have you got and where are you?

Mike

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...................................
Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
...................................

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't know
how many I will be able to save.
David Hill

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:04:11 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill
wrote:


Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't know
how many I will be able to save.
David Hill


I'm east of David (a bit inland from Porthcawl). Made -3.7C here
(about 25F) last night and currently (2pm) hovering around 1.5C
(34.7F).

I was silly yesterday - turned one of the outside taps back on to draw
some water for the bird bath and,afterwards, turned the stopcock back
off inside but forgot to then open and drain the tap outside. The top
of the tap sheared off this morning despite the fact that I did
remember to put the jacket back on it.

Jake

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't know
how many I will be able to save.

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures in Celsius?
--

Martin- Hide quoted text -

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Celcius?
What ever happened to centigrade?

Dave Hill wrote in
:

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't
know how many I will be able to save.

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures
in Celsius? --

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Celcius?
What ever happened to centigrade?

The difference between degrees Celsius and degrees centigrade is that one
is the name of the person who invented the scale (in which water freezes at
0° and boils at 100°), and the other describes the scale ("centigrade"
means "100 divisions").
The other difference is that "Celsius" is considered correct. "Centigrade"
was an older, and I think almost exclusively American, way of referring to
the scale. Because we call the Fahrenheit scale after its inventor, to be
consistent we should refer to the Celsius scale after its inventor.

I copied this from a book so dont blame me with its lengthy text.

Baz

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:02:17 GMT, Baz wrote:

Dave Hill wrote in
:

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures
in Celsius? --

Martin- Hide quoted text -

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Celcius?
What ever happened to centigrade?

The difference between degrees Celsius and degrees centigrade is that one
is the name of the person who invented the scale (in which water freezes at
0° and boils at 100°), and the other describes the scale ("centigrade"
means "100 divisions").

The fact is that Farenheit is also centigrade, well it would have been if
Farenheit had got the upper limit correct. It was intended to have 100
degrees between salt and ice and body temperature.
--
Phil Cook http://www.therewaslight.co.uk

Martin wrote in
:

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:39:07 +0000, Phil Cook
wrote:

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:02:17 GMT, Baz wrote:

Dave Hill wrote in

m:

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give
temperatures in Celsius? --

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Celcius?
What ever happened to centigrade?

The difference between degrees Celsius and degrees centigrade is
that one is the name of the person who invented the scale (in which
water freezes at 0° and boils at 100°), and the other describes the
scale ("centigrade" means "100 divisions").

The fact is that Farenheit is also centigrade, well it would have been
if Farenheit had got the upper limit correct. It was intended to have
100 degrees between salt and ice and body temperature.

and not 180?

Why 180?

180 is a trig. property as in 180° to a triangle and not a temperature
scale that I am aware of.

Boiling temp. °F =212
°C =100

Baz

In message , Baz
writes
Dave Hill wrote in
:

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't
know how many I will be able to save.

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures
in Celsius? --

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Celcius?
What ever happened to centigrade?

The difference between degrees Celsius and degrees centigrade is that one
is the name of the person who invented the scale (in which water freezes at
0° and boils at 100°), and the other describes the scale ("centigrade"
means "100 divisions").
The other difference is that "Celsius" is considered correct. "Centigrade"
was an older, and I think almost exclusively American, way of referring to
the scale. Because we call the Fahrenheit scale after its inventor, to be
consistent we should refer to the Celsius scale after its inventor.

I copied this from a book so dont blame me with its lengthy text.

Baz
Centigrade was used universally until someone I think the Common Market
or EC or Eu or whatever decided to change it. Same with hertz instead of
c/s
--
hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha

In message , hugh
] writes
In message , Baz
writes
Dave Hill wrote in
:

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't
know how many I will be able to save.

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures
in Celsius? --

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Celcius?
What ever happened to centigrade?

The difference between degrees Celsius and degrees centigrade is that one
is the name of the person who invented the scale (in which water freezes at
0° and boils at 100°), and the other describes the scale ("centigrade"
means "100 divisions").
The other difference is that "Celsius" is considered correct. "Centigrade"
was an older, and I think almost exclusively American, way of referring to
the scale. Because we call the Fahrenheit scale after its inventor, to be
consistent we should refer to the Celsius scale after its inventor.

I copied this from a book so dont blame me with its lengthy text.

Baz
Centigrade was used universally until someone I think the Common Market
or EC or Eu or whatever decided to change it. Same with hertz instead
of c/s

It's a great pity that meaningful names have been abandoned in favour of
honouring some long-dead scientist.

Cycles/second has an immediate resonance (pun intended), as does
Centigrade, ie 100 divisions.

How many Schrodingers are there in an Einstein?
--
Gordon H
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Martin wrote in
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:04:11 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill
wrote:

On Nov 30, 8:34*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
Very overcast, slight breeze occasional gust, forecast says heavy
snow today. Trying to snow/rain at 0830. Had to clear thick ice off
bird baths

Not had any significant snow at all SE Isle of Wight.

What have you got and where are you?

Mike

--

...................................
Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
...................................

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't know
how many I will be able to save.

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures
in Celsius?

As a rule of thumb.
Double it and add 27.
ie: 18 degrees c doubled is 36, add 27 =63degrees f
or
http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm

I hope this helps you as it did me some 30 years ago.

Baz

Martin wrote in
:

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:46:32 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2010-11-30 11:27:18 +0000, Martin said:

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:04:11 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill
wrote:

On Nov 30, 8:34*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
Very overcast, slight breeze occasional gust, forecast says heavy
snow today. Trying to snow/rain at 0830. Had to clear thick ice
off bird baths

Not had any significant snow at all SE Isle of Wight.

What have you got and where are you?

Mike

--

...................................
Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
...................................

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't
know how many I will be able to save.

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures
in Celsius?

Dave and Ray are the same! Both still 'think' in Fahrenheit and then
(I would guess) translate it into Celsius. The older Nursery hands
often do that, I've noticed. I can't measure weight in old money
without checking to be sure I'm right. And I still find it hard to
think in Celsius, whereas I know that 70F is hot (for England!)

72F was the temperature in the local indoor swimming pool when I was a
kid It always felt cold. :-)

Some
of the newspapers still give the temps in both. Don't forget, you
live in Europe and have been used to having had those metric figures
around you as a matter of habit for quite some time.

Officially Celsius has been used in UK since 1962. :-)

Here, we still go
between the two. I ask my butcher for 2lbs of mince, never 1kg and
so do most of his older customers as well as some of the younger ones.

I still think in acres for areas.

We have had metric in the UK for 40 odd years and as you say many of us
still after all these years still ask for a pound of spuds and a dozen
apples. Why did the people who make these decisions for us decide to
confuse at least 2 generations worth of the population?

The only metric item we have overcome is money! and only because we have
had to.

My tuppence worth(what is that in metric?)2d = ?
And what is more annoying is that we have had 30cm of snow today(thats
about a foot) so the yard (yard) will need a good ****ing clean up.

Baz

In message , Martin
writes
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:46:32 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2010-11-30 11:27:18 +0000, Martin said:

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:04:11 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill
wrote:

On Nov 30, 8:34*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
Very overcast, slight breeze occasional gust, forecast says heavy snow
today. Trying to snow/rain at 0830. Had to clear thick ice off bird baths

Not had any significant snow at all SE Isle of Wight.

What have you got and where are you?

Mike

--

...................................
Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
...................................

Here in the Swansea area of South Wales the temp went down to 28f
overnight.
Yesterday it was bright and sunny and got up to 38f, leting me lift
some of the tree dahlias, but there are still around 50 left in the
ground, and the frost is getting further into the ground, I don't know
how many I will be able to save.

How do you cope with the TV weather forecasts that give temperatures in
Celsius?

Dave and Ray are the same! Both still 'think' in Fahrenheit and then
(I would guess) translate it into Celsius. The older Nursery hands
often do that, I've noticed. I can't measure weight in old money
without checking to be sure I'm right. And I still find it hard to
think in Celsius, whereas I know that 70F is hot (for England!)

72F was the temperature in the local indoor swimming pool when I was a kid
It always felt cold. :-)

Some
of the newspapers still give the temps in both. Don't forget, you live
in Europe and have been used to having had those metric figures around
you as a matter of habit for quite some time.

Officially Celsius has been used in UK since 1962. :-)

Here, we still go
between the two. I ask my butcher for 2lbs of mince, never 1kg and
so do most of his older customers as well as some of the younger ones.

I still think in acres for areas.
And inches for depth of snow?
--
hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha

'Mike' wrote:
What have you got and where are you?

Finally got some snow in West Essex.
Not a massive amount, but it was very pretty at 6.30am, with half covered
fox tracks heading down the road. Apparently the boys were very happy to
see it when they woke up.

"'Mike'" wrote in
:

Very overcast, slight breeze occasional gust, forecast says heavy snow
today. Trying to snow/rain at 0830. Had to clear thick ice off bird baths

Not had any significant snow at all SE Isle of Wight.

What have you got and where are you?

Mike


Snow and more snow for us in North Lincs and it's snowing now.

When I went out to feed the chickens the snow went up to the midle of my
wellies ie. 7 inches or thereabout.
I can't remember the last time it snowed in November, and I do remember in
2001 that I was mowing the lawn to pass the time for my sons wedding.

We arent even in winter yet are we? winter starts 21 December.

Sir Patrick Moore predicted we would have a few years of quite harsh
winters due to spots in or on the sun which I beleive causes as little as 1
or 2% of light to be denied to us and that small percentage is significant
to our planet. I read somewhere that 5% is ice age.
I could not find one url to give as it can be confusing so below is a start
for anybody interested.

http://www.sirpatrickmoore.com/begin...next_steps.php

Baz

Baz wrote:
I can't remember the last time it snowed in November, and I do remember in
2001 that I was mowing the lawn to pass the time for my sons wedding.

It snowed on Nov 20th 1973, and up until the mid-90s it seemed to snow about
one in 3 Nov 20ths, although that may have been limited to where I was at
the time. The last time I remember it snowing on Nov 20th was at a party in
the mid-90s in Coventry, where I happened to be.