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Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
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Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:52 +0000, chris French
wrote: In message , writes In article , chris French wrote: In message , Jake writes I'm particularly careful with electricians these days. I've rewired two houses in the past, getting my work passed by the tester who had to connect the tails to the meter, but am now "incapable" of doing anything serious because of "Part P" regulations. When I had a new kitchen fitted at home I got a "Part P" qualified fitter do the electrical work. Subsequently, having identified problems (which I couldn't correct as I'm not Part P qualified), I got another electrician to put the botch job right (and got the first electrician to pay). That's not correct. You can do 'Part P' notifiable works, you just need to put in a building regs application for them. For which you will be charged on the order of 250 pounds. Per job. True, but if you are doing a big enough job, then cost wise it's still worth it. And you don't have to then employ an electrician to not do the job properly . I've spent years living and breathing all the different building regs - "Doc M", "Part P" and so on, and often thinking they are daft. Technically, I can wire up an office building badly and potentially kill lots of people but I cannot wire up my own home badly and just kill myself. A lot of wiring work, done properly, is hidden behind walls. I have known cases of people doing the job themselves and then asking an electrician to certify the work (complies fully with Part P) but the electrician says he has to check everything and ends up charging as much as he would have charged to do the job in the first place and leaves more mess! Part P is a real rip-off in my view and doesn't really achieve anything. In my case, I didn't have time to go through the notice procedure with Building Control and, in any event, had I corrected the botch job myself the original sparkie would have got away with a lot. Getting another electrician to do the work meant I had an invoice with which to make the original idiot pay up (and another electrician to report back to NICEIC on the first and, hopefully, prevent any future botch jobs). |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
"Janet" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Paranoid? That's a bit loud isn't it? Mike -- .................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. .................................... |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
"Janet" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet I will second that from her killfiled list ! Regards Pete - quite couth actually |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-12-16 14:51:52 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Really Janet, coming from you, that last paragraph is truly hilarious. Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. That is an obvious lie. Uriels post did no such thing. He referenced the previous discussion about Monty; and made a generalisation applicable to all. That self-recommendation is not what counts. Oh.. and s/he addressed that observation to you, by name. Janet Janet, you have now tried to pick fights with me on 3 different groups, throwing insult and abuse around. Your behaviour is just appalling. This has nothing to do with urg, Uriel or anything other than your fury that I won't play your filthy games with other peoples' lives and said so a long time ago. That's it lady, into the bozo bin with you, too. -- Sacha Write to her family ;-)) -- .................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. .................................... |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-12-16 14:51:52 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Really Janet, coming from you, that last paragraph is truly hilarious. Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. That is an obvious lie. Uriels post did no such thing. He referenced the previous discussion about Monty; and made a generalisation applicable to all. That self-recommendation is not what counts. Oh.. and s/he addressed that observation to you, by name. Janet Janet, you have now tried to pick fights with me on 3 different groups, throwing insult and abuse around. Your behaviour is just appalling. This has nothing to do with urg, Uriel or anything other than your fury that I won't play your filthy games with other peoples' lives and said so a long time ago. That's it lady, into the bozo bin with you, too. Welcome - it is not so bad here - at least you are free from her ladyships replies(:-) Pete |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-12-16 14:51:52 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Really Janet, coming from you, that last paragraph is truly hilarious. Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. That is an obvious lie. Uriels post did no such thing. He referenced the previous discussion about Monty; and made a generalisation applicable to all. That self-recommendation is not what counts. Oh.. and s/he addressed that observation to you, by name. Janet Janet, you have now tried to pick fights with me on 3 different groups, throwing insult and abuse around. Your behaviour is just appalling. This has nothing to do with urg, Uriel or anything other than your fury that I won't play your filthy games with other peoples' lives and said so a long time ago. That's it lady, into the bozo bin with you, too. -- Sacha Write to her family ;-)) :-)) Care - you could be next in line for her bin ! But -- Thanks anyway Pete |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
"Pete" wrote in message
... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-12-16 14:51:52 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Really Janet, coming from you, that last paragraph is truly hilarious. Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. That is an obvious lie. Uriels post did no such thing. He referenced the previous discussion about Monty; and made a generalisation applicable to all. That self-recommendation is not what counts. Oh.. and s/he addressed that observation to you, by name. Janet Janet, you have now tried to pick fights with me on 3 different groups, throwing insult and abuse around. Your behaviour is just appalling. This has nothing to do with urg, Uriel or anything other than your fury that I won't play your filthy games with other peoples' lives and said so a long time ago. That's it lady, into the bozo bin with you, too. -- Sacha Write to her family ;-)) :-)) Care - you could be next in line for her bin ! But -- Thanks anyway Pete ""Stupid boy"" I'm already in it. DOOOO keep up ;-) Actually, she doesn't have a bin. She likes to 'keep and eye and control' over her newsgroup. (I won't tell you what my family think of her superiority complex, but are waiting for 'a letter' to turn up ;-)) Very serious question. 'Just why do some people think they are so superior to others?' Mike ps Pete, to show what I mean about there not being a bin, her 'ladyship' will respond, not direct, but via another posting somewhere which shows that we are all "read" if you see what I mean. -- .................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. .................................... |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
-- .................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. .................................... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Pete" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-12-16 14:51:52 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Really Janet, coming from you, that last paragraph is truly hilarious. Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. That is an obvious lie. Uriels post did no such thing. He referenced the previous discussion about Monty; and made a generalisation applicable to all. That self-recommendation is not what counts. Oh.. and s/he addressed that observation to you, by name. Janet Janet, you have now tried to pick fights with me on 3 different groups, throwing insult and abuse around. Your behaviour is just appalling. This has nothing to do with urg, Uriel or anything other than your fury that I won't play your filthy games with other peoples' lives and said so a long time ago. That's it lady, into the bozo bin with you, too. -- Sacha Write to her family ;-)) :-)) Care - you could be next in line for her bin ! But -- Thanks anyway Pete ""Stupid boy"" I'm already in it. DOOOO keep up ;-) Actually, she doesn't have a bin. She likes to 'keep and eye and control' over her newsgroup. (I won't tell you what my family think of her superiority complex, but are waiting for 'a letter' to turn up ;-)) Very serious question. 'Just why do some people think they are so superior to others?' Mike ps Pete, to show what I mean about there not being a bin, her 'ladyship' will respond, not direct, but via another posting somewhere which shows that we are all "read" if you see what I mean. ""How reassuring that you two have spoken up in defence of Janet. She's certainly in the right company."" Point set and match I believe :-)))))) Mike -- -- .................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. .................................... |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
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The following bit should have been deleted, but we are not all perfect. ................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. ................................... Kindest regards Mike Top posting? Not pruning? In keeping with this newsgroup (I will get round to 'public' emails later) Merry Christmas and a hell of a Happy New Year to all who can read me :-))))))))))))))))))) "'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Pete" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-12-16 14:51:52 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if you weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts to urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if you would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Really Janet, coming from you, that last paragraph is truly hilarious. Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. That is an obvious lie. Uriels post did no such thing. He referenced the previous discussion about Monty; and made a generalisation applicable to all. That self-recommendation is not what counts. Oh.. and s/he addressed that observation to you, by name. Janet Janet, you have now tried to pick fights with me on 3 different groups, throwing insult and abuse around. Your behaviour is just appalling. This has nothing to do with urg, Uriel or anything other than your fury that I won't play your filthy games with other peoples' lives and said so a long time ago. That's it lady, into the bozo bin with you, too. -- Sacha Write to her family ;-)) :-)) Care - you could be next in line for her bin ! But -- Thanks anyway Pete ""Stupid boy"" I'm already in it. DOOOO keep up ;-) Actually, she doesn't have a bin. She likes to 'keep and eye and control' over her newsgroup. (I won't tell you what my family think of her superiority complex, but are waiting for 'a letter' to turn up ;-)) Very serious question. 'Just why do some people think they are so superior to others?' Mike ps Pete, to show what I mean about there not being a bin, her 'ladyship' will respond, not direct, but via another posting somewhere which shows that we are all "read" if you see what I mean. ""How reassuring that you two have spoken up in defence of Janet. She's certainly in the right company."" Point set and match I believe :-)))))) Mike -- -- ................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. ................................... |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
"Janet" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 2010-12-16 16:28:05 +0000, "Pete" said: Care - you could be next in line for her bin ! But -- Thanks anyway Pete How reassuring that you two have spoken up in defence of Janet. Well, Pete, that just about sums up Sacha's killfile. Janet. wot kill file??? :-)))))) ""One does like to keep and eye on thing doesn't one?"" Mike -- .................................... Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday. .................................... |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
In message , Sacha
writes Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. I must have missed that edition of GW... Is it on Eye Player? -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
In message , Sacha
writes On 2010-12-16 16:28:05 +0000, "Pete" said: "'Mike'" wrote in message .. . "Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2010-12-16 14:51:52 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 13:45:28 +0000, Janet said: In article , says... On 2010-12-16 01:12:58 +0000, uriel13 said: Hi Sacha, Re Monty, Its not what you say about yourself that counts!!! uriel13 I think your opinion would carry some weight - perhaps - if weren't so obviously here only to troll and bash one person. Google shows Uriel 13 has been posting on-topic gardening posts urg for at least a year. S/he is clearly not a troll or here to bash anyone. Perhaps, Sacha, your own opinions would carry more weight if would drop the endless paranoid smears and dismissal of other posters legitimate contributions. Janet Really Janet, coming from you, that last paragraph is truly hilarious. Uriel had a clear agenda in bashing Monty Don in an unproven and spiteful way. That is an obvious lie. Uriels post did no such thing. He referenced the previous discussion about Monty; and made a generalisation applicable to all. That self-recommendation is not what counts. Oh.. and s/he addressed that observation to you, by name. Janet Janet, you have now tried to pick fights with me on 3 different groups, throwing insult and abuse around. Your behaviour is just appalling. This has nothing to do with urg, Uriel or anything other than your fury that I won't play your filthy games with other peoples' lives and said so a long time ago. That's it lady, into the bozo bin with you, too. -- Sacha Write to her family ;-)) :-)) Care - you could be next in line for her bin ! But -- Thanks anyway Pete How reassuring that you two have spoken up in defence of Janet. She's certainly in the right company. LOL! Janet can look after herself. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
Gardeners' World goes back to its roots with Monty
In message ,
Janet writes In article , says... On 2010-12-16 16:28:05 +0000, "Pete" said: Care - you could be next in line for her bin ! But -- Thanks anyway Pete How reassuring that you two have spoken up in defence of Janet. Well, Pete, that just about sums up Sacha's killfile. Janet. Is there a waiting list to get in? -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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