Blowing Neighbours smell away
In article ,
Steve Walker wrote: The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. I find it very amusing. Non smokers always said how much they hated pubs because of the smoke. Now they're all non smoking, they're closing in droves... -- *24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ... coincidence? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 21:43, Interloper wrote:
Having analysed the various passive smoking arguments, "Keith" made the following contribution to the discussion: I believe that you are a ****wit. Is that good enough for you? Rather like 'TMH', if the best you can come up with is a personal insult, then you have lost the argument. When you have an IQ lower than your shoe size, it's usually best to keep quiet. Your stupidity is simply astounding. Firstly you say "Rather like 'TMH', if the best you can come up with is a personal insult, then you have lost the argument". Followed by "When you have an IQ lower than your shoe size, it's usually best to keep quiet". So you have just lost the argument. Please examine your feet for bullet wounds. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Dave East" wrote in message ... Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed up with the smell of it. Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed it on the garden table whether it would make any difference or would be it be a waste of time? Try it. I wish my new neighbours would just smoke rather than only occupy their house when they are going to have a huge party. A car blocked me in, and I asked them to move (this was at 9a.m. and he said he would only be there for a few minutes, so I agreed ok) It was there until 7 pm. and there were people spilling into the street talking at the top of their voices all day. This is a quiet area, this is the 2nd noisy party in a few weeks. They will not fit in if they continue. They do not even seem to be living there, just using it for parties. It drives me wild. Tina Looking at this from my viewpoint as a smoker. If my neighbours objected to me smoking in my garden I doubt if I would do much about it as I never smoke in the house as I (yip) hate the smell. I also wont smoke in front of non smokers restuarants etc. I would probably smoke at a point further away from the boundry if they approached me in a mannerable way. My neighbours have frequent BBQs which I hate (the smoke/smell) but as its only once or twice a week I just ignore. If a neighbour uses a lot of garlic in food I have major issues as I react badly to the smell, so I hide indoors. Point is we live in close proximity and have to put up with some annoyances, as long as they are not major. Hell we could have a lot worse, I know I have. we are unlikely to have the perfect world/surroundings unless we have the wealth to buy it. |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Steve Walker wrote: The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. I find it very amusing. Non smokers always said how much they hated pubs because of the smoke. Now they're all non smoking, they're closing in droves... That's because the pubs never catered for the non smokers and they all went elsewhere. They lost the best part of a generation of customers who don't see any reason to go to the pub now. There are plenty of other places that did cater for non smokers that have a growing customer base. In this world its adapt or go bust. |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 18:57, dennis@home wrote:
"Jon" wrote in message ... Very true - there are a lot of myths about smoking, perpetuated by those with an agenda and propagated by those who slavishly believe whatever they're told. Mostly by the addicts. For a more balanced view on the subject, the singer Joe Jackson decided to look into REAL facts regarding smoking and wrote "Smoke Lies, and the Nanny State" Hello Dennipoos. You are well known around here for being a thick ****. This does nothing to avoid that opinion. Addicts and their suppliers always like to look at studies and ignore those that don't agree with their findings. The anti smoking fascists do exactly that. Any study refuting the passive smoking myth are suppressed and never published - and they are legion & many fold. remember how many decades the smoking lobby told everyone that smoking didn't harm the addicts? Remember how the ASF spent years trying to denigrate smokers? remember how many decades the smoking lobby claimed smoking was not addictive. You are going to have to provide some evidence for that. Now they claim passive smoking does no harm. You just can't trust the smoking industry or the addicts, they lie, they lie lots. Nothing like the anti smoking lobby. When it comes to lies, false information & fudged reports they are in a league of their own. Perhaps you would like to check out the well known anti smoking charity Action on Smoking & Health? Let me know when you do, we can talk about funding & lying. There is no way an addict will admit that he has helped to kill someone and they will cling on to any sliver of evidence to say they didn't, such is life and death. There is no way a small minded idiot like you would ever develop the intellectual capacity to think for himself. Its pointless arguing with addicts until they are cured. Its pointless arguing with thick ****s like you. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28 Aug,
The Medway Handyman wrote: Farting serves a useful purpose? Try going a week without a fart. You'll find the reason! -- B Thumbs Change lycos to yahoo to reply |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 18:58, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:39:10 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 28/08/2011 15:15, Peter James wrote: The Medway wrote: On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com, Peter wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's? I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease? There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer. Passive smoking is however a myth. I think that this will be my last posting on this subject. There's none so bllind as those who will not see! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11844169 http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Smok...hers-(Passive- Smoking).htm http://www.helpwithsmoking.com/passive-smoking.php http://bookshop.rcplondon.ac.uk/details.aspx?e=305 Peter http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/ MRD. MRD Minimum Required Distribution (qualified retirement plans and IRAs) MRD Metal Raiders (Yu-Gi-Oh cards) MRD Ministry of Rural Development (various countries) MRD Marine Resources Division (various states) MRD Marketing Requirements Document MRD Market Requirements Document MRD Movement for the Restoration of Democracy (Pakistan) MRD Machine-Readable Dictionary MRD Matched Related Donor MRD Mirrodin (game) MRD Mission Requirements Document MRD Motorized Rifle Division MRD Mandatory Removal Date (from military service) MRD Minimum Residual Disease MRD Mandatory Retirement Date MRD Merida, Venezuela - Alberto Carnevalli (Airport Code) MRD Manual Ring-Down MRD Mandatory Release Date MRD Multicystic Renal Dysplasia MRD Marginal Reflex Distance MRD Manufacturing, Retail & Distribution MRD Marketing Research Department MRD Maximum Rank Distance MRD Material Required Date MRD Multicast Routing Debugger MRD Master Requirements Directory MRD Materiel Release Denial MRD Mobile Receive Diversity MRD Maintenance Requirements Determination (Australian government) MRD Multi-Resolution Decomposition MRD Memorandum for Regional Directors (DCAA) MRD Maximum Relative Density (asphalt) MRD Maximum Release Date MRD Minimum Rank Distance MRD Minimum Reacting Dose MRD Maintenance Requirements Document MRD Material Requirements Data MRD Marine Design Center MRD Milestone Review Document MRD Materiel Requirements Document MRD Military Requirements Determination MRD Materiel Redistribution Division MRD Maintenance Reference Documentation MRD Management Resource Database (public defenders database) MRD Master Requirements Document MRD US Army Corps of Engineers, Missouri River Division MRD Material Receipt Date MRD Market Release Date MRD Material Release Document MRD Myst, Riven and D'ni (game series) MRD Medical Renal Diseases ??????? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 21:17, Huge wrote:
On 2011-08-28, The Medway wrote: http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/ Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha[gasp]hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha So, because Forest doesn't support your bias, you denigtare the evidence? Would you perhaps, in your unbiased view, believe what Action on Smoking & Health said? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 19:01, dennis@home wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Peter James wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms. in the other case they are taking away your freedom. What about the freedom of smokers to go into smoke filled rooms? Or is 'freedom' a one way street? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 21:07, dennis@home wrote:
"charles" wrote in message ... In article , dennis@home wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Peter James wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. that's true.. you can choose not to go into smoke filled rooms. not if your job depends on it. That's why we have a smoking ban, you can't go into smoke filled rooms because of your job anymore. No, we have a smoking ban because a fanatical group of anti smokers, backed up by the lobbying of multi national drug companies, forced it through. Its undemocratic & basd on false evidence. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 23:24, Steve Walker wrote:
On 27/08/2011 17:20, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 16:18, Interloper wrote: "The Medway Handyman" mocked: Why don't you try getting a life? Most likely Dave has already got a life and he is trying to hang on to it and his health by avoiding passive smoking. Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. Roy Castle? Alas not. Lung cancer yes. 10% of lung cancer deaths occur in non smokers. Most of the people I know who don't want anyone smoking near them are not overly concerned about passive smoking, they just can't stand the odour, the sore eyes, the sore throat and the smelly clothes they end up with from being around smokers. An entirely reasonable view. I have no wish to inflict the by products of smoking on others. Equally, I can't see why non smokers should inflict their views on smokers. As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's a foul odour that travels considerable distances. As are many things, but we don't ban cheap perfume, body odour, farting, fried onions, McDonalds, diesel fuel, rape seed etc. My wife is an ex-smoker (she promised her father a month before he was diagnosed with terminal liver cancer and other than one lapse, she has stuck to it), she frequently comments that she's amazed how she could ever have smoked, as she too can't stand the smell. I personally love the smell of secondhand smoke YMMY. During the summer when it is hot we naturally like our patio door and windows open to get a breeze. At night we sleep with our bedroom window open. Our neighbours have a young child so they go outside to smoke and we end up suffering their smoke. We either have to put up with it or close the windows and struggle to sleep 'cos of the heat. Interesting point that. Smoking has been deliberately demonised over the years to the point of stupdity. Were it not for that, your neighbours would smoke indoors with no adverse affects to their child, in fact, according to many (supressed) studies, it would promote a resistance to smoking related illness.. The selfishness of smokers has always amazed me. I have worked with and been friends with a number and two things stick out. Firstly, in the days when you could smoke in pubs, the whole group had to sit and suffer in the smoking area, even if there was only one smoker with us, otherwise they'd whinge and moan so much that they'd ruin the evening. The selfessness of non smokers amazes me. I'd suppot 'smoking' and 'non smoking' areas. Majority rule? My youngest daughter doesn't smoke. When she goes out with her mates, most of them disappear outside for a fag & leave her on her own. Now she goes out with them. Secondly, every time one of the smokers tried to give up, the others would smoke in front of them and each time they lit up, they'd offer them one - as if they couldn't stand letting one get away! However, I do think that the coucils that are trying to ban smokers from lighting up in the street, parks, etc. are going too far; similarly with the existing ban on smoking in company vehicles; and also the hospitals and companies that ban employees from smoking in their own cars in their car-parks. Thank you for a reasoned view. :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 22:59, R D S wrote:
On 27/08/2011 15:39, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 27/08/2011 09:42, Dave East wrote: Our next door neighbours are very heavy smokers and we get a bit fed up with the smell of it. Wondering if we bought one of those fairly big house fans and placed it on the garden table whether it would make any difference or would be it be a waste of time? Why don't you try getting a life? I had some respect for you up to that point. You appear to be confusing me with someone who cares what you think. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 23:47, Steve Walker wrote:
On 28/08/2011 13:14, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 28/08/2011 10:20, Peter James wrote: Dave Plowman wrote: In article1k6pbn0.zrjw1i1dikjd4N%pfjames2000@googlem ail.com, Peter wrote: Could you name someone who as died from passive smoking? Anywhere in the world will do. How about Roy Castle a man who died from lung cancer and who never smoked. Said he picked up the disease from the night clubs he worked in and where smoking was rampant. For further information see the following URL's. One swallow - even with a famous name - does not a summer make. And even if it did, there's a very big difference between working all your life in smoky rooms and having neighbours who smoke outdoors. Indeed. But did you read the attached URL's? I suppose you are a strong believer in the tobacco companies assertion that there is no proven link between tobacco and lung disease? There is conclusive evidence to link active smoking with lung cancer. Passive smoking is however a myth. I believe that there is link, but I also believe that the increased risk is probably low enough for me to ignore. I cannot however ignore the awful smell, the affect on my eyes and my throat or the smell on my clothes and my hair the next morning. As a heavy smoker I can appreciate that. For two and a half years I was suffering from asthma (still do of course) and pulmonary sarcoidosis (declared clear just over a year ago), yet "friends" still insisted on smoking around me. TBF Steve, you need to address your 'friends' attitude. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Blowing Neighbours smell away
On 28/08/2011 23:45, dennis@home wrote:
"Tony Bryer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:24:40 +0100 Steve Walker wrote : As a smoker you won't have the experience, but I frequently recoil from the smell of tobacco smoke and look round to find someone smoking 20 or 30 feet away! It's extraordinary now to think that there was a time (before I took up travelling) when people smoked on planes. A good while back I had a number of British Rail archive films of the 1950s and smoking at your desk seemed to be the norm. That was when most people didn't think smoking harmed them. Now the sensible ones have realised the truth and stopped. The ones that continue also don't believe smoking harms others. That would be because there is no credible evidence to support that view. Not really surprising as there are a lot of fools about. You being their undisputed king ****wit. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:30 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
GardenBanter