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The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/08/2011 10:58, dennis@home wrote:


It would appear to be, smokers certainly don't allow others to enjoy
smoke free air if it means delaying their fix.


Look up the word 'choice' & get back to me.


My choice would be to breathe air free of tobacco smoke, the smokers'
choice is to pollute the air around them with tobacco smoke. That makes
my only possible course of action to move away from their pollution,
which means that I have no other option. Their choice has limited my
choices.

My choice would be to sleep in a hotel room that does not stink of old
cigarette smoke. Your choice as a smoker to break the law in that hotel
room yesterday makes it impossible for me to have my choice.

I drive a coach for a living, and I have to walk through the cloud of
smoke generated by smokers who light up as they cross the threhold of
the exit door, and then just stand there, and get offended when I close
the door to keep their smoke out. Their choice of smoking place removes
my chance of staying smoke free.

Whose choice is more important? The drug addict's or the clean living
person's?

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On 29/08/2011 13:18, John Williamson wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/08/2011 10:58, dennis@home wrote:


It would appear to be, smokers certainly don't allow others to enjoy
smoke free air if it means delaying their fix.


Look up the word 'choice' & get back to me.


My choice would be to breathe air free of tobacco smoke, the smokers'
choice is to pollute the air around them with tobacco smoke. That makes
my only possible course of action to move away from their pollution,
which means that I have no other option. Their choice has limited my
choices.


Choice means having non smoking & smoking areas & venues. Since the
rabid anti smoking fascists have forced smokers outside, the have
limited their choice - and now they whinge about smokers outside.

My choice would be to sleep in a hotel room that does not stink of old
cigarette smoke. Your choice as a smoker to break the law in that hotel
room yesterday makes it impossible for me to have my choice.


I wasn't in a hotel room yesterday? Where did you get that idea from?
Typical anti smoker - making things up.

I drive a coach for a living, and I have to walk through the cloud of
smoke generated by smokers who light up as they cross the threhold of
the exit door, and then just stand there, and get offended when I close
the door to keep their smoke out. Their choice of smoking place removes
my chance of staying smoke free.

Whose choice is more important? The drug addict's or the clean living
person's?


Both. But the anti smoking fascists removed choice from the equation.


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The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/08/2011 13:18, John Williamson wrote:

My choice would be to sleep in a hotel room that does not stink of old
cigarette smoke. Your choice as a smoker to break the law in that hotel
room yesterday makes it impossible for me to have my choice.


I wasn't in a hotel room yesterday? Where did you get that idea from?
Typical anti smoker - making things up.


"Your" choice as in the generic smoker, not your choice as in your
*personal* choice. And it happens to about one in fifty hotel rooms I
stay in. Although, for all I know you were in at least one of them.


I drive a coach for a living, and I have to walk through the cloud of
smoke generated by smokers who light up as they cross the threhold of
the exit door, and then just stand there, and get offended when I close
the door to keep their smoke out. Their choice of smoking place removes
my chance of staying smoke free.

Whose choice is more important? The drug addict's or the clean living
person's?


Both. But the anti smoking fascists removed choice from the equation.


Just as smokers always did and still do. One bloke I know is no longer
welcome in my home because he does not understand that I do not want him
smoking in my living room, especially as he just lights up and puffs
away without asking my permission. The room reeks of smoke for days
afterwards.

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Whose choice is more important? The drug addict's or the clean living
person's?


Both. But the anti smoking fascists removed choice from the equation.




You do have a choice

don't smoke in public places

or

get arrested


|Lets use a gun analogy

do you see it as everyone's personal right to carry a firearm?


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