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The red arrows have just left Bournemouth to return to Scampers. At least
some of them have. I just saw three, and I assume the others went before
them or are still to follow. I can hear jet noise from the airport.

I'm still gutted about the loss of red 4.

RIP Eggman.

Steve


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On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, shazzbat wrote:

The red arrows have just left Bournemouth to return to Scampers. At least
some of them have. I just saw three, and I assume the others went before
them or are still to follow. I can hear jet noise from the airport.

I'm still gutted about the loss of red 4.


No more than our family. My daughter (RAF padre) and her husband knew
the pilot.

David

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No more than our family. My daughter (RAF padre) and her husband knew
the pilot.

David



Brave man but I did wonder how come his parachute came out without him?
Most military families feel the loss every time one dies.
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-08-27 14:11:53 +0100, Janet Tweedy said:

In article , David Rance
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No more than our family. My daughter (RAF padre) and her husband
knew the pilot.
David


Brave man but I did wonder how come his parachute came out without
him?
Most military families feel the loss every time one dies.


The reports aren't in but one theory was a bird-strike and that he'd
tried to use his ejector seat but didn't have enough height for it to
deploy properly. It's a terrible tragedy.


My son-in-law (ex fighter pilot) says that the bird-strike theory is
discounted. His own theory is that the pilot suffered (and I think I've
got this right) "G-lock". At the moment of the manoeuvre he would have
been subjected to a force of 4G and would have temporarily lost
consciousness. A fault with the aircraft is also discounted as none of
the others have been grounded on account of the accident. The force of
the impact would (according to Sean) have caused the ejector seat to
fire anyway.

David

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On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Sacha wrote:

On 2011-08-27 14:11:53 +0100, Janet Tweedy
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In article , David Rance
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No more than our family. My daughter (RAF padre) and her husband knew
the pilot.
David


Brave man but I did wonder how come his parachute came out without
him?
Most military families feel the loss every time one dies.


The reports aren't in but one theory was a bird-strike and that he'd tried
to use his ejector seat but didn't have enough height for it to deploy
properly. It's a terrible tragedy.


My son-in-law (ex fighter pilot) says that the bird-strike theory is
discounted. His own theory is that the pilot suffered (and I think I've
got this right) "G-lock". At the moment of the manoeuvre he would have
been subjected to a force of 4G and would have temporarily lost
consciousness. A fault with the aircraft is also discounted as none of the
others have been grounded on account of the accident. The force of the
impact would (according to Sean) have caused the ejector seat to fire
anyway.

David

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Glad someone else has the same theory as me. The only doubt I have on such a
theory and 'almost' dismissed it, is that they do so many displays, one
would have thought they would have 'got used to it', or, 'learnt to overcome
it'.

Mike

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On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Sacha wrote:

The reports aren't in but one theory was a bird-strike and that
he'd tried to use his ejector seat but didn't have enough height for
it to deploy properly. It's a terrible tragedy.


My son-in-law (ex fighter pilot) says that the bird-strike theory is
discounted. His own theory is that the pilot suffered (and I think
I've got this right) "G-lock". At the moment of the manoeuvre he
would have been subjected to a force of 4G and would have temporarily
consciousness. A fault with the aircraft is also discounted as none of
the others have been grounded on account of the accident. The force of
the impact would (according to Sean) have caused the ejector seat to
fire anyway.


But I thought he put out a 'Mayday'?


Red Leader put out the Mayday which was picked up illegally by someone.
Red Leader asked the others if they could see where the plane went in
and one of the others said they saw something in the river.

David

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Red Leader put out the Mayday which was picked up illegally by someone.
Red Leader asked the others if they could see where the plane went in
and one of the others said they saw something in the river.

David



Whatever the cause I feel for his family and friends at this time.

Bad enough to cope with his death without all the rumours in the press.
I am sure the truth will come out eventually.
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"Martin" wrote ...

Bad enough to cope with his death without all the rumours in the press.
I am sure the truth will come out eventually.


I agree with you completely.


But what about the photo taken just before the crash which showed a bright
light underneath the aircraft. Is that an indication of a malfunction, jet
gasses escaping, maybe a fire.

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