[quote=Genie2312;936687]how can anyone think it's an awful weed.... /QUOTE]
A weed is a plant in the wrong place. After all, in parts of North America ground elder is thought of as a decorative garden flower, because it is not invasive there.

If you'd spent several hard days digging out the cotoneaster scrubland that had developed in various abandoned parts of the garden under the previous owner's neglect, and continue to have to cut back every year several fast-growing ones that won't be dug out, as they are well rooted under the shed, etc, as well as removing many seedlings every year before they become established, you might think they are weeds too. I don't deny that some of them are fine plants in the right place, and I really rather like the giant Himalayan cotoneaster we have - though that one doesn't seed as much as the horizontalis and the unidentified (by me) one behind the shed, and several other places.

[quote=echinosum;936688] I didn't mean to cause offence
I guess your right though.....and in 10 years time when i'm on here complaining you can say ......."TOLD YOU SO "

Because I planted a tiny one against the wall in my front garden. It's now spread along 30ft of wall, and has put out tentacles 10 ft into the garden. I can't dig out the rooted tentacles without disturbing other plants, so I keep cutting them back, and they keep re-growing, and we have been at war for 15 years so far.

Oooooo.....i'm starting to wonder wether to bother now.....haha
Although my one at work seems confined and doesn't seem to be causing a problem and i've never pulled out any new plants before this one today....and to be honest that's the first one i've seen and ive worked here 4 years....

Hmmmmm....to plant or not to plant

"Genie2312" wrote in message
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Hi all

I have a rather large, well established Cotoneaster at work but i would
like to take a cutting from it to grow at home to brighten up the shabby
fence panel i have. I'm rather impatient and would like to take a large
section (thick woody branch) as I have read that it does not produce
flowers or berrys for a few years (i do have a small one that has seeded
itself a little bit away from the main branch that i could take up and
plant at home, but as I said I'm a little impatient, any help on how i
would go about doing this would be apreciated.


How about a multi-option approach?

Lift the small one and transplant it and then try a variety of methods (as
described here) to try and produce a viable cutting.
If you get a nice big cutting then you can replace the small plant or grow
two plants.
If after a couple of years you haven't managed to get a decent cutting then
your original plant will have been growing during all that time.

Cheers

Dave R
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[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

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In message , kay
writes

Genie2312;936687 Wrote:

how can anyone think it's an awful weed....

Because I planted a tiny one against the wall in my front garden. It's
now spread along 30ft of wall, and has put out tentacles 10 ft into the
garden. I can't dig out the rooted tentacles without disturbing other
plants, so I keep cutting them back, and they keep re-growing, and we
have been at war for 15 years so far.

Cotoneaster integrifolius, Cotoneaster simonsii, Cotoneaster bullatus,
Cotoneaster microphyllus and Cotoneaster horizontalis are all on
Schedule 9 ("It is also an offence to plant or otherwise cause to grow
in the wild invasive non-native plants listed on Schedule 9 of the
Wildlife and Countryside Act.").

Some conservation NGOs want to put the whole genus on Schedule 9. (Fide
Stace, 83 species and 3 hybrids have been recorded from the wild in the
UK.)

Around here the commoner species are simonsii, rehderi, horizontalis, x
watereri and hjelmqvistii.

OTOH, Cotoneaster is not obviously more invasive than Aster, Buddleia,
Solidago, Spiraea, Sympharicarpos, etc., which aren't on Schedule 9.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

Cotoneaster integrifolius, Cotoneaster simonsii, Cotoneaster bullatus,
Cotoneaster microphyllus and Cotoneaster horizontalis are all on
Schedule 9 ("It is also an offence to plant or otherwise cause to grow
in the wild invasive non-native plants listed on Schedule 9 of the
Wildlife and Countryside Act.").

Some conservation NGOs want to put the whole genus on Schedule 9. (Fide
Stace, 83 species and 3 hybrids have been recorded from the wild in the
UK.)

Around here the commoner species are simonsii, rehderi, horizontalis, x
watereri and hjelmqvistii.

OTOH, Cotoneaster is not obviously more invasive than Aster, Buddleia,
Solidago, Spiraea, Sympharicarpos, etc., which aren't on Schedule 9.

!!!!! Quite. The trouble about laws like that is that it is far
too common to start with a relatively rational list in the schedule,
but for every monomaniac with a hobby-horse to be able to get it
extended, and yet it be almost impossible to get anything off it.

The 2010 update was totally insane. Montbretia, for heaven's sake!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:35:00 +0100 (BST), wrote:

In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

Cotoneaster integrifolius, Cotoneaster simonsii, Cotoneaster bullatus,
Cotoneaster microphyllus and Cotoneaster horizontalis are all on
Schedule 9 ("It is also an offence to plant or otherwise cause to grow
in the wild invasive non-native plants listed on Schedule 9 of the
Wildlife and Countryside Act.").

Some conservation NGOs want to put the whole genus on Schedule 9. (Fide
Stace, 83 species and 3 hybrids have been recorded from the wild in the
UK.)

Around here the commoner species are simonsii, rehderi, horizontalis, x
watereri and hjelmqvistii.

OTOH, Cotoneaster is not obviously more invasive than Aster, Buddleia,
Solidago, Spiraea, Sympharicarpos, etc., which aren't on Schedule 9.

!!!!! Quite. The trouble about laws like that is that it is far
too common to start with a relatively rational list in the schedule,
but for every monomaniac with a hobby-horse to be able to get it
extended, and yet it be almost impossible to get anything off it.

I think there's some justification for the cotoneasters' inclusion in
the forlorn hope to protect _C. cambricus_, endemic to the Great Orme,
from hybridisation. They should probably move the plant to Oxford,
famously the home of lost causes.

The 2010 update was totally insane. Montbretia, for heaven's sake!

Heh! Is _Acer pseudoplatanus_ on the list?

--
Mike.

In message , Mike Lyle
writes
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:35:00 +0100 (BST), wrote:

In article ,
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

Cotoneaster integrifolius, Cotoneaster simonsii, Cotoneaster bullatus,
Cotoneaster microphyllus and Cotoneaster horizontalis are all on
Schedule 9 ("It is also an offence to plant or otherwise cause to grow
in the wild invasive non-native plants listed on Schedule 9 of the
Wildlife and Countryside Act.").

Some conservation NGOs want to put the whole genus on Schedule 9. (Fide
Stace, 83 species and 3 hybrids have been recorded from the wild in the
UK.)

Around here the commoner species are simonsii, rehderi, horizontalis, x
watereri and hjelmqvistii.

OTOH, Cotoneaster is not obviously more invasive than Aster, Buddleia,
Solidago, Spiraea, Sympharicarpos, etc., which aren't on Schedule 9.

!!!!! Quite. The trouble about laws like that is that it is far
too common to start with a relatively rational list in the schedule,
but for every monomaniac with a hobby-horse to be able to get it
extended, and yet it be almost impossible to get anything off it.

I think there's some justification for the cotoneasters' inclusion in
the forlorn hope to protect _C. cambricus_, endemic to the Great Orme,
from hybridisation. They should probably move the plant to Oxford,
famously the home of lost causes.

The 2010 update was totally insane. Montbretia, for heaven's sake!

Heh! Is _Acer pseudoplatanus_ on the list?


No. Nor is Acer platanoides, which might be worse, except that sycamore
had a head start.

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Media/PDFs/Adv...let-schedule-9

A lot of the list looks like bolting the stable door after the horse has
escaped.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

Symphoricarpus is a menace around here, really invasive. Of the two, I'd marginally prefer to be fighting Cotoneaster. (Unfortunately I'm fighting both)