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Dahlias - ok to lift and dry?
Mine have all stopped flowering. I have a couple dozen in a small area on
the allotment. Location exposed, 500'amsl and East facing. I believe you are meant to lift them, trim the stems down to 6" and turned upside-down for a length of time:- 1. How long to keep the exposed to the elements? 2. Would it pay me to wash any soil off first? Here's the forecast for the SW for next couple of days. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html They will be wrapped in crumpled newspaper and bagged in the loft. Many thanks for your replies. Bertie |
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Dahlias - ok to lift and dry?
On Nov 16, 10:09*am, "Bertie Doe" wrote:
Mine have all stopped flowering. I have a couple dozen in a small area on the allotment. Location exposed, 500'amsl and East facing. I believe you are meant to lift them, trim the stems down to 6" and turned upside-down for a length of time:- 1. How long to keep the exposed to the elements? 2. Would it pay me to wash any soil off first? Here's the forecast for the SW for next couple of days.http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html They will be wrapped in crumpled newspaper and bagged in the loft. Many thanks for your replies. Bertie I have been lifting now for a couple of weeks, I lift in the morning leaving the tubers on the surface; after removing as much soil as possible; to dry then box in the afternoon, I cut the stems back to around 3 inches and place the tubers upside down in the boxes, these are then moved inside to carry on drying, In early Jan I turn the tubers the right way up and bed them into the boxes with moist compost ready to start into growth for me to take cuttings. If you are going to store the tubers in newspaper no problem, but I'd put them intocardboard or wooden boxes rather than bags. You dont say if they are first year tubers or older ones. Some people wash any soil off the tubers (sometinea using a weak bleach solution.) and dust with flowers of sulphur prior to storing. |
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Dahlias - ok to lift and dry?
"Dave Hill" wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 10:09 am, "Bertie Doe" wrote: Mine have all stopped flowering. I have a couple dozen in a small area on the allotment. Location exposed, 500'amsl and East facing. I believe you are meant to lift them, trim the stems down to 6" and turned upside-down for a length of time:- 1. How long to keep the exposed to the elements? 2. Would it pay me to wash any soil off first? Here's the forecast for the SW for next couple of days.http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html They will be wrapped in crumpled newspaper and bagged in the loft. Many thanks for your replies. Bertie I have been lifting now for a couple of weeks, I lift in the morning leaving the tubers on the surface; after removing as much soil as possible; to dry then box in the afternoon, I cut the stems back to around 3 inches and place the tubers upside down in the boxes, these are then moved inside to carry on drying, In early Jan I turn the tubers the right way up and bed them into the boxes with moist compost ready to start into growth for me to take cuttings. If you are going to store the tubers in newspaper no problem, but I'd put them intocardboard or wooden boxes rather than bags. You dont say if they are first year tubers or older ones. Some people wash any soil off the tubers (sometinea using a weak bleach solution.) and dust with flowers of sulphur prior to storing. Thanks Dave, these are mainly 3, 4 and 5 year old plants. Winter of 09/10 I left them in the ground and no damage done. Last winter was cooler and I lost 4 plants. Winter of 08/09 they were in loft and I lost 3 - as you say, this could be due to dampness in plastic carrier bags. Raining as I write, but tomorrow should be ok, I'll try your method. Looking at the radar, the rains reached you:- http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ |
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Dahlias - ok to lift and dry?
"Bertie Doe" wrote ((SNIP))
Thanks Dave, these are mainly 3, 4 and 5 year old plants. Winter of 09/10 I left them in the ground and no damage done. Last winter was cooler and I lost 4 plants. Winter of 08/09 they were in loft and I lost 3 - as you say, this could be due to dampness in plastic carrier bags. Raining as I write, but tomorrow should be ok, I'll try your method. Looking at the radar, the rains reached you:- http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ Whilst you mention leaving in the ground, we had a row out on our old allotment for years and they only ever suffered with slug damage as the shoots were showing. I originally planted them very deep, twice as deep as recommended or more and that allowed them to come through the winters in an exposed* site. * that is always relative, before someone up a mountain in Scotland says anything. :-) -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W. of London UK |
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Dahlias - ok to lift and dry?
On Nov 16, 3:22*pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Bertie Doe" *wrote ((SNIP)) Thanks Dave, these are mainly 3, 4 and 5 year old plants. Winter of 09/10 I left them in the ground and no damage done. Last winter was cooler and I lost 4 plants. Winter of 08/09 they were in loft and I lost 3 - as you say, this could be due to dampness in plastic carrier bags. Raining as I write, but tomorrow should be ok, I'll try your method. Looking at the radar, the rains reached you:- http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ Whilst you mention leaving in the ground, we had a row out on our old allotment for years and they only ever suffered with slug damage as the shoots were showing. I originally planted them very deep, twice as deep as recommended or more and that allowed them to come through the winters in an exposed* site. * that is always relative, before someone up a mountain in Scotland says anything. :-) -- Regards *Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W. of London UK The main thing that kills dahlias left in the ground is the wet not so much the cold, though in a hard winter that will wipe them out. As you say Bob you have to put slug bait out from mid May onwards if you have left them in. Leaving dahlias tubers in plastic bags will almost certainly lead to rot unless they are 100% dry, store them in dry compost, slightly damp pearlite or vermiculite or peat. Large tubers, those several years old will have to be split some people will advocate doing it straight after lifting when the stems are still green, others leave them till early spring. If you have several tubers of a variety I would lift one or two in case of a hard winter, I find If I leave tubers in the ground because I don't want them they come up the following spring where as If I wanted them but had forgoten them they die. Sods Law. |
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Dahlias - ok to lift and dry?
"Dave Hill" wrote in message ... /The main thing that kills dahlias left in the ground is the wet not so /much the cold, though in a hard winter that will wipe them out. /As you say Bob you have to put slug bait out from mid May onwards if /you have left them in. /Leaving dahlias tubers in plastic bags will almost certainly lead to /rot unless they are 100% dry, store them in dry compost, slightly damp /pearlite or vermiculite or peat. I've noticed the plants don't seem to grow as tall as when I put them in, say 5 years ago. I suspect the soil is exhausted, despite getting 3 wheelbarrows of cow manure in December. |
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Dahlias - ok to lift and dry?
"Dave Hill" wrote in message ... On Nov 16, 3:22 pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Bertie Doe" wrote ((SNIP)) Large tubers, those several years old will have to be split some people will advocate doing it straight after lifting when the stems are still green, others leave them till early spring. If you have several tubers of a variety I would lift one or two in case of a hard winter, Mine should all be lifted by lunchtime. Would you split now or in early spring - I have some sulphur BTW Thanks. |
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