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Saving hens before EU directive
According to Amateur gardener this week battery hens must be abolished
by January and the British hen Welfare Trust thinks that nearly 300,000 will be killed as they won't be able to find homes for them.. Anyone interested in adopting some of the hens can call BHWT on 01769 580310 or email or you can go to www.bhwt.org.uk -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On Dec 13, 3:09*pm, Janet wrote:
In article , says... According to Amateur gardener this week battery hens must be abolished by January and the British hen Welfare Trust thinks that nearly 300,000 will be killed as they won't be able to find homes for them.. * That is nothing new, premature death has always been the inevitable fate of battery hens as soon as their egg production rate falls off...usually less than a year after they started laying. * The UK will continue commercial egg production from hens that spend their entire short life in cages; just very slightly larger cages than the previous "battery" ones. * *Janet. Here are the new regulations http://www.broodyhen.co.uk/ket/fowln.../ecdirect.html |
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Martin wrote in
: On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:14:51 -0800 (PST), Dave Hill wrote: On Dec 13, 3:09*pm, Janet wrote: In article , says... According to Amateur gardener this week battery hens must be abolished by January and the British hen Welfare Trust thinks that nearly 300,000 will be killed as they won't be able to find homes for them.. * That is nothing new, premature death has always been the inevitable fate of battery hens as soon as their egg production rate falls off...usually less than a year after they started laying. * The UK will continue commercial egg production from hens that spend their entire short life in cages; just very slightly larger cages than the previous "battery" ones. * *Janet. Here are the new regulations http://www.broodyhen.co.uk/ket/fowln.../ecdirect.html So 250 square centimetres more space per hen. Hardly earth shattering. Yes Martin, but a step in the right direction. The goal is free to roam but will it eventualy happen? I think it will, but by degrees and will put up the price of our eggs. It would surely create employment? Baz |
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In article , Baz
writes Yes Martin, but a step in the right direction. The goal is free to roam but will it eventualy happen? I think it will, but by degrees and will put up the price of our eggs. It would surely create employment? Baz The hundred if not thousands of hens currently running around the various wired off bits of Raans farm in Amersham have the right to roam but only their part of the field, they have numerous flocks all segregated by wired fences and the local foxes of course make a bee line for them. They hens flap up and over the fencing and walk up and down the footpath running alongside the field, whether they all go back into their wooden arks affairs at night is anyone's guess. Not sure if that's in the spirit of free to roam -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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Janet writes That is nothing new, premature death has always been the inevitable fate of battery hens as soon as their egg production rate falls off...usually less than a year after they started laying. The UK will continue commercial egg production from hens that spend their entire short life in cages; just very slightly larger cages than the previous "battery" ones. Janet. But presumably some of these will be young battery hens? If they can move them to bigger cages then I would have thought all these poor "doomed to die early" ones will be passed on to the next concentrated food production? -- Janet Tweedy |
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Premature death is already the inevitable fate of most male chicks, just crushed and discarded.
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In article , Jake
writes But what I don't understand is that if 300,000 battery hens face slaughter then, to produce the same number of eggs, another 300,000+ hens will need to be bought. Why cannot battery hens be converted to free range which, presumably, is what people who adopt them will do? Are they the same breeds? I mean do they have special breeds that are more compliant in battery conditions and might be not so good free range on a commercial level? I'd love to get some but it's got "no poultry" clause in my house thing. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Nospam@invalid
says... On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:22:25 +0000, Chris Hogg wrote: Janet. And according to the BBC reports of a few days ago, many EU countries are simply ignoring the directive. Typical! See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16047967 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15731320 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16112149 for more detail. And if the UK refuses to import battery eggs, we'll probably fall foul of some other EU directive about free trade so UK egg producers who have to comply with the directive will suffer in every direction. Particularly as the companies that produce things with eggs in them will still, no doubt, source at the cheapest price. The local Co-op supermarket stopped stocking battery eggs some time ago and sells free range eggs at the price other supermarkets charge for battery eggs. I don't know if it's psychological but to me free range eggs taste better and I think the slightly paler yokes are the result of no additives in the hens' food. But what I don't understand is that if 300,000 battery hens face slaughter then, to produce the same number of eggs, another 300,000+ hens will need to be bought. The producers have to empty thousands of hens out of the old cages, take the cages out of the sheds and install new complaint cages. Where do you park thousands of hens meanwhile, in the middle of winter? It's too stressful for the birds. Why cannot battery hens be converted to free range which, presumably, is what people who adopt them will do? You've never seen a battery hen? They are partially bald, have very weak legs, have spent their life tightly caged in dim light and very warm conditions. They don't even know how to make their way to a drinker or feeder because all their life, it's been under their beak. If you put them outdoors in January it would be cruel; they would die of starvation,stress and exposure. Years back when Edwina Curries wrecked the egg industry overnight we took on some doomed ex-batteries. It took weeks before they grew feathers and got strong enough to walk around all day like freerange hens do. During that time they had to live in a shed doing chicken rehab. Janet |
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Saving hens before EU directive
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:00:13 -0000, Janet wrote:
But what I don't understand is that if 300,000 battery hens face slaughter then, to produce the same number of eggs, another 300,000+ hens will need to be bought. The producers have to empty thousands of hens out of the old cages, take the cages out of the sheds and install new complaint cages. Where do you park thousands of hens meanwhile, in the middle of winter? It's too stressful for the birds. Why cannot battery hens be converted to free range which, presumably, is what people who adopt them will do? You've never seen a battery hen? They are partially bald, have very weak legs, have spent their life tightly caged in dim light and very warm conditions. They don't even know how to make their way to a drinker or feeder because all their life, it's been under their beak. If you put them outdoors in January it would be cruel; they would die of starvation,stress and exposure. Years back when Edwina Curries wrecked the egg industry overnight we took on some doomed ex-batteries. It took weeks before they grew feathers and got strong enough to walk around all day like freerange hens do. During that time they had to live in a shed doing chicken rehab. Janet Thanks Janet. I now understand what I didn't before. I might ask why can't Bernard Matthews' empty turkey sheds be used for acclimatisation but I won't. I can only hope that "the end" is quick and painless but know it probably won't be. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling (after the great storm) from the usually dryer (east) end of Swansea Bay. |
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Saving hens before EU directive
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Janet writes During that time they had to live in a shed doing chicken rehab. Ah but that does appeal to the sentimental side i might have.......... -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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Saving hens before EU directive
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... According to Amateur gardener this week battery hens must be abolished by January and the British hen Welfare Trust thinks that nearly 300,000 will be killed as they won't be able to find homes for them.. Anyone interested in adopting some of the hens can call BHWT on 01769 580310 or email or you can go to www.bhwt.org.uk -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk Don't worry. You are witnessing the start of the collapse of the EU. Just wait a while and it will all fall apart .................... the sooner the better Mike -- .................................... I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight. .................................... |
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