Moonraker wrote in :


Why? I thought everyone here were helping all gardeners. Why not point
him to this news group if you believe that is best?


Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to earn
money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of us if it is
ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you are daft enough to
give a real email).
IMO gardenbanter is a parasite. NO, gardenbanter IS a parasite. Not its
members though, they know no better.

Baz

"Baz" wrote in message
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Moonraker wrote in :


Why? I thought everyone here were helping all gardeners. Why not point
him to this news group if you believe that is best?


Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to earn
money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of us if it
is
ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you are daft enough to
give a real email).
IMO gardenbanter is a parasite. NO, gardenbanter IS a parasite. Not its
members though, they know no better.

Baz

Baz.

Live with it. It happens

Mike


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I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

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Moonraker wrote in :


Why? I thought everyone here were helping all gardeners. Why not point
him to this news group if you believe that is best?


Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to earn
money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of us if it is
ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you are daft enough to
give a real email).

???? afaics gardenbanter's forum does not publish any email address of external usenet
posters (real or not); or identify their isp.

Janet

"Her@Nowhere" wrote in
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In article ,
says...

Moonraker wrote in
:


Why? I thought everyone here were helping all gardeners. Why not
point him to this news group if you believe that is best?


Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to
earn money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of
us if it is ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you
are daft enough to give a real email).

???? afaics gardenbanter's forum does not publish any email address
of external usenet
posters (real or not); or identify their isp.

Janet


I didn't say they publish them. I said they USE them.

Baz

How do they use them?

No, they don't give your ISP or email. From my point of view it's a downside - when I was on urg, I gave my email as did many others, and it allowed us to talk off group. Now I can only talk to those whose email I already know. I can't send emails to new people, and they can't email me.

Yes they do earn money on your content (presumably - I have scripts disabled so don't see any ads - and they do honour X-no-archive). On the other hand they do perform a useful service in making accessible a newsgroup that most people would ever come across otherwise. Of the people I talk to in everyday life, almost everyone has internet access, but the only ones who have heard of usenet are those that came to the internet over 10 years ago.

It's not just your content they are getting for free - they are also getting mine! They don't pay gardenbanter users either.

kay wrote in news:kay.aad47b7
@gardenbanter.co.uk:


'Baz[_3_ Wrote:
;967277']
Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to earn

money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of us if it
is
ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you are daft enough
to
give a real email)

No, they don't give your ISP or email. From my point of view it's a
downside - when I was on urg, I gave my email as did many others, and it
allowed us to talk off group. Now I can only talk to those whose email I
already know. I can't send emails to new people, and they can't email
me.

Yes they do earn money on your content (presumably - I have scripts
disabled so don't see any ads - and they do honour X-no-archive). On the
other hand they do perform a useful service in making accessible a
newsgroup that most people would ever come across otherwise. Of the
people I talk to in everyday life, almost everyone has internet access,
but the only ones who have heard of usenet are those that came to the
internet over 10 years ago.

It's not just your content they are getting for free - they are also
getting mine! They don't pay gardenbanter users either.





You still don't get it do you! So I will silently block all of this content
and carry on. It really is invasive.

Baz

"Baz" wrote in message
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kay wrote in news:kay.aad47b7
@gardenbanter.co.uk:


'Baz[_3_ Wrote:
;967277']
Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to earn

money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of us if it
is
ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you are daft enough
to
give a real email)

No, they don't give your ISP or email. From my point of view it's a
downside - when I was on urg, I gave my email as did many others, and it
allowed us to talk off group. Now I can only talk to those whose email I
already know. I can't send emails to new people, and they can't email
me.

Yes they do earn money on your content (presumably - I have scripts
disabled so don't see any ads - and they do honour X-no-archive). On the
other hand they do perform a useful service in making accessible a
newsgroup that most people would ever come across otherwise. Of the
people I talk to in everyday life, almost everyone has internet access,
but the only ones who have heard of usenet are those that came to the
internet over 10 years ago.

It's not just your content they are getting for free - they are also
getting mine! They don't pay gardenbanter users either.





You still don't get it do you! So I will silently block all of this
content
and carry on. It really is invasive.

Baz

No Baz, YOU don't get it. It happens. Live with it. Smack a advert in your
signature as others have done, continue posting here and just rub your hands
that you are getting free publicity.

Live with it or don't post or read urg

Kindest possible regards.



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I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................

"Baz" wrote
kay wrote in news:kay.aad47b7
@gardenbanter.co.uk:

'Baz[_3_ Wrote:
;967277']
Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to
earn money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of
us if it is ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you
are daft enough to give a real email)

No, they don't give your ISP or email. From my point of view it's a
downside - when I was on urg, I gave my email as did many others, and
it allowed us to talk off group. Now I can only talk to those whose
email I already know. I can't send emails to new people, and they
can't email me.

Yes they do earn money on your content (presumably - I have scripts
disabled so don't see any ads - and they do honour X-no-archive). On
the other hand they do perform a useful service in making accessible
a newsgroup that most people would ever come across otherwise. Of the
people I talk to in everyday life, almost everyone has internet
access, but the only ones who have heard of usenet are those that
came to the internet over 10 years ago.

It's not just your content they are getting for free - they are also
getting mine! They don't pay gardenbanter users either.


You still don't get it do you! So I will silently block all of this
content and carry on. It really is invasive.

The folk turning up via GB with questions or just joining in aren't to
blame for how a portal site operates, though Baz. It seems really mean
not to try and help or reply to people who would just like a bit of
information or a few gardening discusss to enjoy.

Not everyone knows how to use newsreader software (even the name is
misleading) nor want to spend time figuring out what it's all about and
learning how. Most people do just turn to a website forum these days,
it's the way things have gone. It's actually easier IMO to read Usenet
newsgroups on a newsreader once set up and makes more sense to see who's
replying to what and follow conversations, but it's not going to be
everyone's cup of tea.

Let's not give the impression that new people aren't welcome because
that isn't true.

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Sue

On Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:35:04 PM UTC+1, Baz wrote:
Moonraker wrote in :





Why? I thought everyone here were helping all gardeners. Why not point

him to this news group if you believe that is best?





Because all replies go to gardenbanter and they use our replies to earn

money from advertising on their website. They do not ask any of us if it is

ok to do so, they use our names, ISP and email (if you are daft enough to

give a real email).

IMO gardenbanter is a parasite. NO, gardenbanter IS a parasite. Not its

members though, they know no better.



Baz

Would agree 100%.........there is an awful lot of this going on now! Those responsible are earning good money from others knowledge/experience, and I guess are most certainly parasites.