On 2013-01-23 17:19:17 +0000, David Hill said:

On 23/01/2013 10:42, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-01-22 19:06:35 +0000, David Hill said:

This has been in flower for the last few weeks.
It's growing about 6ft from the road at the base of a retaining wall.
I took these pictures today in a spell of heavy sleet, so didn't take
as much care as I might have done.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownflowers.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers02.jpg

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers04.jpg

David @ the mild and almost snow free end of Swansea Bay

Probably Leucojum vernum, the spring snowflake. If you google for pics
of it you may recognise it.

Definitely not that Sacha, The petals are the wrong shape and no spot,
have a look at the flowers
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers05.jpg

I'm going to have to get down and take more photos of the clump,smell
the leaves, and look at the shape of the flower stems.
As it's not mine I am not going to dig up any part of it.
David

It will be interesting to see close up pics, if you can get them.
Weather doesn't sound too favourable!Whatever it is, it's an early
bird! Hope you're both well and trying to keep warm and dry. It's been
dank and grey and horrible here today.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2013-01-23 19:08:47 +0000, Janet Tweedy said:

On 23/01/2013 10:42, Sacha wrote:
Probably Leucojum vernum, the spring snowflake. If you google for pics
of it you may recognise it.


Still looks like Allium triquetrum to me scaha, about the right amount
of developement at this time of the year too

David seems to think it isn't that but further photos may tell.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:31:19 -0000, Janet wrote:



On 2013-01-22 23:09:10 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"David Hill" wrote

This has been in flower for the last few weeks.
It's growing about 6ft from the road at the base of a retaining wall.
I took these pictures today in a spell of heavy sleet, so didn't take
as much care as I might have done.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownflowers.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers02.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers04.jpg

Looks like Leucojum vernum known as Snowflakes as apposed to Snowdrops.
http://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Leucojum-vernum.htm

I don't think so

Leucojums have quite distinct green or yellow spots, which I can't see
on David or Bobs pics but you can see them here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucojum

I agree with Chris it's a pesky allium. Break a bulb or crush leaves
and sniff for onion/garlic smell.

I agree also. Confirmation will be by feeling the flower stems to see
if they are three-cornered. i have the leaves well up in spite of snow
but no sign of flowers but am trying to get rid of them. Some hope!!!

Pam in Bristol

On 23/01/2013 21:13, David Hill wrote:
On 23/01/2013 20:35, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
On 23/01/2013 19:09, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:46:55 +0000, David Hill
wrote:

On 23/01/2013 18:12, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:26:47 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2013-01-23 16:17:50 +0000, Bob Hobden said:



I can't say I've noticed any spots on ours, just pure white. I'll
take
a closer look in a month or so.

I don't recall any spots on ours, though there's a variety called
Gravetye which has yellow spots. Otoh, here's a photo of Allium
trifolium take in USA. David's find may be bowed down by snow &
cold if
it's this!
http://www.nargs.org/nargswiki/tiki-...p?imageId=2802

That's not the A. trifolium I know. Maybe I got the name wrong. On
further research, yes, I have! Internet let me down the first time.
Try A. triquetrum. Lots of images here http://tinyurl.com/beqxvn2

(I was mislead by this:
http://www.fotolibra.com/gallery/493...cornered-leek/)



No.
I thought you had it till I looked at the young flowers, in the link
you
posted they form as small bids on the stem, in my pic. they are
sheathed
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers06.jpg


David

Not sure which of the two links I posted you mean (and your particular
picture comes up very small, unlike the three earlier ones). The
second of my two links shows a fairly well developed flower-head, but
they start life as a sheathed bud. Have a look at some of the images
on the first (Tinyurl/Google) link, and in particular
http://gardenerscorner.co.uk/forum/t...ed-leek.26153/
and scroll down to the image, or several images here
http://www.freenatureimages.eu/plant...-cornered-Leek.


I'm pretty sure what you've got is A. triquetrum. The only thing that
worries me is that it's in flower now.

Where's SRH when you need him!

Without an answer. I quickly considered and rejected Galanthus woronowii
and Leucojum aestivum. It's flowering remarkably early, but I think it
must be an Allium. Perhaps some close up photos would help.

I will try to take more pics when the weather is better, The last were
taken in heavy sleet so I didn't hang about, now we have another 2 or so
inches of snow and have heavy rain forecast in the next few days.
David

Well as promised, now the weather is better I've got back to the clump.
The flower stems are triangular in section and the flowers have a green
line in the petals as you can see here
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers07.jpg
They have a strong onion smell and they seem to grow like a shallot the
bulb dividing to form several new ones, but I didn't get the bulb or the
smell on film. Sorry.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...nflowers08.jpg
So it does look like it's Allium triquetrum
Thanks to everyone who helped with this ident.
David @ the tropical end of Swansea Bay