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On 2013-04-11 19:49:42 +0100, stuart noble said:

On 11/04/2013 17:08, Spider wrote:
On 11/04/2013 15:39, stuart noble wrote:
On 11/04/2013 13:54, Spider wrote:
On 11/04/2013 13:45, David Hill wrote:
On 11/04/2013 13:36, Spider wrote:
On 11/04/2013 02:31, Janet Tweedy wrote:
On 09/04/2013 10:46, Martin wrote:
I use Gixen - very handy if you're not around at the last few
moments
of bidding.
Thanks Sacha!
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yes sadly the item went to the dizzy heights of 6.03p but unhappily I
was in Aylesbury at the Armed Forces day Ticket lasunch so lost the
auction ....................


Sorry Spider, will keep on looking - probably outbid by some
newsgroup
follower




Well, thanks for trying, Janet, and for your kind offer, regardless of
how it turned out. I shall keep looking, too. I'm stuck indoors atm
with an horrendous cold and chest infection :~((. If I find St.Geoff's
progs before you do, I will let you know and offer you a viewing, of
course. Unlike you, I read/view things more than once so tend to
hoard,
but a loan for viewing purposes could easily be arranged:~).


You have my sympathy. I'm still getting over the same, it's taken for
ever to go.
It came with a very rough throat for which I gargled with soluble
aspirin as they are an anaesthetic, but found that the original Bechams
powders are even better as a gargle.




Thank you, David. This is my third cold and second chest infection this
year, so I'm really fed up. I missed my Hypochondriacs Anonymous
meeting last month, so you can imagine how rough I feel. Seeing the Doc
tomorrow for antibiotics, but I can't have Penicillin any more so it
should be interesting. I think I'll try the Beechams gargle (my
throat's raw now), but I'm wary of aspirin due to my asthsma. Thanks
for the suggestion. Hope you're feeling a lot better now.

I'd been coughing non-stop night and day for a week until sheer
exhaustion forced me to the gp's surgery. I got prescribed a week's
erethromycin, which has actually made the coughing more painful, but I
now feel there's an end in sight as the airways are clearing. Obviously
what starts as a virus can turn into a bacterial infection, so
antibiotics are always worth a try





Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. Hope that continues and
you'll soon be bouncing around in the garden. I can hardly wait to
reach that state myself, since sleep deprivation (as with you) has
compounded the misery.
Take care of yourself.


Thanks for the good wishes. I live in hope that an hour's continuous
sleep will soon be possible....:-)


As they always say "finish the course, lots of fluids and rest". It's
a nasty one and is one of the 'echo' virus type. It takes a long time
to recover. We went down with it over Christmas (got through that thank
goodness) and felt terrible for a couple of weeks with the lingering
cough described. Even now, we both have the odd moment of feeling a
bit blech. Hope you're on the upward path soon.
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As they always say "finish the course, lots of fluids and rest". It's
a nasty one and is one of the 'echo' virus type. It takes a long time
to recover. We went down with it over Christmas (got through that thank
goodness) and felt terrible for a couple of weeks with the lingering
cough described. Even now, we both have the odd moment of feeling a bit
blech. Hope you're on the upward path soon.



This is my second does, first was after going down to Devon in Dec. then
this after another visit to Devon, this second bought has been a lot
worse, so it's back to the Dr this morning.
I had the flue jab as always and it's always worked for me, so I don't
know what this thing is, but it's vicious.
David @ the damp end of Swansea bay.
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On 2013-04-12 08:57:39 +0100, David Hill said:


As they always say "finish the course, lots of fluids and rest". It's
a nasty one and is one of the 'echo' virus type. It takes a long time
to recover. We went down with it over Christmas (got through that thank
goodness) and felt terrible for a couple of weeks with the lingering
cough described. Even now, we both have the odd moment of feeling a bit
blech. Hope you're on the upward path soon.



This is my second does, first was after going down to Devon in Dec.
then this after another visit to Devon, this second bought has been a
lot worse, so it's back to the Dr this morning.
I had the flue jab as always and it's always worked for me, so I don't
know what this thing is, but it's vicious.
David @ the damp end of Swansea bay.


Whatever's been doing the rounds down here, it was indeed a vicious
one. It's just such bad luck that you get ill when coming down here for
a bit of r&r. One friend of ours had a bug last summer and only just
started to get really better just before Christmas. The trouble is
that the immune system, once weakened, is prey to so many other things,
too. Whatever we had, it wasn't the typical flu bug and we both had the
jab. It was just a really horrible, debilitating virus that gave us
nasty coughs but we didn't have the awful aching limbs and heads that
usually go with most well-known types of flu.
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On 12/04/2013 09:33, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-04-12 08:57:39 +0100, David Hill said:


As they always say "finish the course, lots of fluids and rest". It's
a nasty one and is one of the 'echo' virus type. It takes a long time
to recover. We went down with it over Christmas (got through that thank
goodness) and felt terrible for a couple of weeks with the lingering
cough described. Even now, we both have the odd moment of feeling a bit
blech. Hope you're on the upward path soon.



This is my second does, first was after going down to Devon in Dec.
then this after another visit to Devon, this second bought has been a
lot worse, so it's back to the Dr this morning.
I had the flue jab as always and it's always worked for me, so I don't
know what this thing is, but it's vicious.
David @ the damp end of Swansea bay.


Whatever's been doing the rounds down here, it was indeed a vicious one.
It's just such bad luck that you get ill when coming down here for a bit
of r&r. One friend of ours had a bug last summer and only just started
to get really better just before Christmas. The trouble is that the
immune system, once weakened, is prey to so many other things, too.
Whatever we had, it wasn't the typical flu bug and we both had the jab.
It was just a really horrible, debilitating virus that gave us nasty
coughs but we didn't have the awful aching limbs and heads that usually
go with most well-known types of flu.



After much reading of NHS feedback, I'm now convinced I have some
version of whooping cough. Sounds like the NHS are in denial about its
re-emergence
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In article ,
says...

After much reading of NHS feedback, I'm now convinced I have some
version of whooping cough. Sounds like the NHS are in denial about its
re-emergence


Nonsense. There has been and still is,

a well publicised epidemic of it.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/NewsCentre/Nat...3PressReleases
/130201Casesofwhoopingcoughdeclineafterrecordnumber s/

http://tinyurl.com/bo9a988

"1 February 2013

There were 9,741* confirmed cases of whooping cough reported in England
and Wales in 2012, according to figures published today by the Health
Protection Agency (HPA). The total figure for 2012 is almost 10 times
higher than the number of cases reported in 2011 (1,119) and in 2008
(902) ? the last peak year before this current outbreak.

The December figures show a decrease for the second month running in
cases of whooping cough with 832 confirmed cases reported compared with
1,168 cases in November 2012. One further death in an infant with
laboratory confirmed whooping cough was reported in December bringing
the 2012 total number of deaths in babies under three months to 14.

The highest number of cases were reported in those aged 15 and over,
with a total of 8,059 cases in 2012, compared to 740 cases in 2011 and
493 cases in 2008.

Dr. Mary Ramsay, head of immunisation at the HPA, said: ?The December
figures show another welcome decrease in the overall number of whooping
cough cases since the peak in October. However, it is very important to
note that we usually see a reduction in cases of whooping cough at this
time of year so this decrease is in line with normal seasonal patterns."

(goes on with lots more, including regional figures and effects in
older people)

Janet




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On 12/04/2013 14:16, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

After much reading of NHS feedback, I'm now convinced I have some
version of whooping cough. Sounds like the NHS are in denial about its
re-emergence


Nonsense. There has been and still is,

a well publicised epidemic of it.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/NewsCentre/Nat...3PressReleases
/130201Casesofwhoopingcoughdeclineafterrecordnumber s/

http://tinyurl.com/bo9a988

"1 February 2013

There were 9,741* confirmed cases of whooping cough reported in England
and Wales in 2012, according to figures published today by the Health
Protection Agency (HPA). The total figure for 2012 is almost 10 times
higher than the number of cases reported in 2011 (1,119) and in 2008
(902) ? the last peak year before this current outbreak.

The December figures show a decrease for the second month running in
cases of whooping cough with 832 confirmed cases reported compared with
1,168 cases in November 2012. One further death in an infant with
laboratory confirmed whooping cough was reported in December bringing
the 2012 total number of deaths in babies under three months to 14.

The highest number of cases were reported in those aged 15 and over,
with a total of 8,059 cases in 2012, compared to 740 cases in 2011 and
493 cases in 2008.

Dr. Mary Ramsay, head of immunisation at the HPA, said: ?The December
figures show another welcome decrease in the overall number of whooping
cough cases since the peak in October. However, it is very important to
note that we usually see a reduction in cases of whooping cough at this
time of year so this decrease is in line with normal seasonal patterns."

(goes on with lots more, including regional figures and effects in
older people)

Janet


Thanks for the link(s), neither of which worked. However they gave me
the HPA site, which was all I really needed
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Thanks for the link(s), neither of which worked.


They both worked for me.


I really must get some sleep :-)

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On 12/04/2013 14:16, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

After much reading of NHS feedback, I'm now convinced I have some
version of whooping cough. Sounds like the NHS are in denial about its
re-emergence


Nonsense. There has been and still is,

a well publicised epidemic of it.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/NewsCentre/Nat...3PressReleases
/130201Casesofwhoopingcoughdeclineafterrecordnumber s/

http://tinyurl.com/bo9a988

"1 February 2013

There were 9,741* confirmed cases of whooping cough reported in England
and Wales in 2012, according to figures published today by the Health
Protection Agency (HPA). The total figure for 2012 is almost 10 times
higher than the number of cases reported in 2011 (1,119) and in 2008
(902) ? the last peak year before this current outbreak.

The December figures show a decrease for the second month running in
cases of whooping cough with 832 confirmed cases reported compared with
1,168 cases in November 2012. One further death in an infant with
laboratory confirmed whooping cough was reported in December bringing
the 2012 total number of deaths in babies under three months to 14.

The highest number of cases were reported in those aged 15 and over,
with a total of 8,059 cases in 2012, compared to 740 cases in 2011 and
493 cases in 2008.

Dr. Mary Ramsay, head of immunisation at the HPA, said: ?The December
figures show another welcome decrease in the overall number of whooping
cough cases since the peak in October. However, it is very important to
note that we usually see a reduction in cases of whooping cough at this
time of year so this decrease is in line with normal seasonal patterns."

(goes on with lots more, including regional figures and effects in
older people)

Janet


What I've got/had isn't whooping cough.

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In article , david@abacus-
nurseries.co.uk says...

On 12/04/2013 14:16, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...

After much reading of NHS feedback, I'm now convinced I have some
version of whooping cough. Sounds like the NHS are in denial about its
re-emergence


Nonsense. There has been and still is,

a well publicised epidemic of it.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/NewsCentre/Nat...3PressReleases
/130201Casesofwhoopingcoughdeclineafterrecordnumber s/

http://tinyurl.com/bo9a988

"1 February 2013

There were 9,741* confirmed cases of whooping cough reported in England
and Wales in 2012, according to figures published today by the Health
Protection Agency (HPA). The total figure for 2012 is almost 10 times
higher than the number of cases reported in 2011 (1,119) and in 2008
(902) ? the last peak year before this current outbreak.

The December figures show a decrease for the second month running in
cases of whooping cough with 832 confirmed cases reported compared with
1,168 cases in November 2012. One further death in an infant with
laboratory confirmed whooping cough was reported in December bringing
the 2012 total number of deaths in babies under three months to 14.

The highest number of cases were reported in those aged 15 and over,
with a total of 8,059 cases in 2012, compared to 740 cases in 2011 and
493 cases in 2008.

Dr. Mary Ramsay, head of immunisation at the HPA, said: ?The December
figures show another welcome decrease in the overall number of whooping
cough cases since the peak in October. However, it is very important to
note that we usually see a reduction in cases of whooping cough at this
time of year so this decrease is in line with normal seasonal patterns."

(goes on with lots more, including regional figures and effects in
older people)

Janet


What I've got/had isn't whooping cough.


I haven't got measles.

Maybe we should start a new thread for "Diseases wot I haven't got".

Janet


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On 12/04/2013 10:12, Martin wrote:
After much reading of NHS feedback, I'm now convinced I have some
version of whooping cough. Sounds like the NHS are in denial about its
re-emergence

What does NHS Direct say?



My niece's twin daughters have had croup recently, they live in
Peacehaven Sussex.

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On 12/04/2013 10:12, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:08:27 +0100, stuart noble
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On 12/04/2013 09:33, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-04-12 08:57:39 +0100, David Hill said:


As they always say "finish the course, lots of fluids and rest". It's
a nasty one and is one of the 'echo' virus type. It takes a long time
to recover. We went down with it over Christmas (got through that thank
goodness) and felt terrible for a couple of weeks with the lingering
cough described. Even now, we both have the odd moment of feeling a bit
blech. Hope you're on the upward path soon.


This is my second does, first was after going down to Devon in Dec.
then this after another visit to Devon, this second bought has been a
lot worse, so it's back to the Dr this morning.
I had the flue jab as always and it's always worked for me, so I don't
know what this thing is, but it's vicious.
David @ the damp end of Swansea bay.

Whatever's been doing the rounds down here, it was indeed a vicious one.
It's just such bad luck that you get ill when coming down here for a bit
of r&r. One friend of ours had a bug last summer and only just started
to get really better just before Christmas. The trouble is that the
immune system, once weakened, is prey to so many other things, too.
Whatever we had, it wasn't the typical flu bug and we both had the jab.
It was just a really horrible, debilitating virus that gave us nasty
coughs but we didn't have the awful aching limbs and heads that usually
go with most well-known types of flu.



After much reading of NHS feedback, I'm now convinced I have some
version of whooping cough. Sounds like the NHS are in denial about its
re-emergence


What does NHS Direct say?


Nothing much, but the "comments" suggest that the condition isn't being
picked up. A dry cough is assumed by GPs to have a viral origin
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On 12/04/2013 13:43, Martin wrote:
Nothing much, but the "comments" suggest that the condition isn't being
picked up. A dry cough is assumed by GPs to have a viral origin



Good job you aren't a dog, one cause of a dry cough would definitely be
thought of as Heart problems

(just to cheer you up)

now back to being glad it's warmer but unfortunately we've had
torrential rain in batches this afternoon ...................

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Amersham
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On 13/04/2013 08:42, Martin wrote:
I didn't write that & I don't have a dry cough or a wet nose.



there's still time martin!

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On 13/04/2013 08:42, Martin wrote:
Us too. It is 7C the forecast fir tomorrow is still 21C.



yes here also, the sun will have to get its proverbial skates on if it's
going to heat anywhere by 19c tomorrow. it's actually quite cold out in
the garden though there's no wind as such. It rained a bit this morning
whilst I was in the gym but only drizzle, but the ground is damp.

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