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I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.

No 1 looks superficially like a runner bean but is probably one of the Ipomeas. I'd be worried about no4, but someone with hands-on experience of growing it may be able to confirm. No 5 looks like sheeps sorrel, a UK native

Thank you for that. I think the first one does look like a morning glory type plant. The last one could be sorrel.

Why would I be worried about No. 4 ?????

I sent you a private message

I haven't received a private message as yet!!!

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On 14/06/2013 16:17, Lintama wrote:
I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.


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Looks familiar but can't put a name to it.
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Marijuana Vegetative Growth Stage - Weed pruning and how to grow cannabis indoors.

Looks a pretty good match!

I should dispose of it quick.

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It looks likea cross between cannabis and a maple. That'll make interesting
pancakes.

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Nice fish shaped leaves!

Hilarious comment about the pancakes.

Can't be cannabis though. I just can't remember where the seeds came from. I reckon I will just have to let the plants grown a bit more for better I D.
Thanks for all the replies and especially for the funny comments.

Hi Kay,

Thanks for the message. Tried to reply but you don't receive PMs.

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It looks likea cross between cannabis and a maple. That'll make
interesting pancakes.

Hehe... It looks like the leaves are alternate, in which case, not a
maple.



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Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall. At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned. Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere.

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"Lintama" wrote


I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.


DSCF 0458 looks like Acetosa sagittata.

DSFC DSCF0461 looks like a variety of tomato

DSCF 0462 looks like Cleome hassleriana.


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"kay" wrote


Lintama;985188 Wrote:


Can't be cannabis though. .

Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall.
At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned.
Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere.


I think it's Cleome hassleriana.

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Regards. Bob Hobden.
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On 15/06/2013 22:32, kay wrote:
Lintama;985188 Wrote:


Can't be cannabis though. .

Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall.
At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned.
Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere


Madeira not Malta

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On 2013-06-14 16:17:07 +0100, Lintama said:

I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.


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Not at all sure about these so suggestions only!
1 Could be a Catalpa bignonoides
2 Tetrapanax?
3 Italian parsley? Doubtful!
4 Don't know
5 Sorrel


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I dug up the 'cannabis like' plant from my garden a few weeks ago as I thought the leaves looked interesting and I hadn't seen it before. I can't understand it being Cannabis. Somebody fairly nearby would have to be growing it in their garden and I don't think my neighbours would dare. I live out in the country with only a handful of neighbours.

The seeds I got from Madeira were the Caster Oil and the Morning Glory.

The leaves are a bit large for it to be Cleome and the plant is now about a foot tall. I have grown Cleome before and it didn't look like this one.

Thank you for your input though Bob.

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On 16/06/2013 13:19, Lintama wrote:
kay;985212 Wrote:
Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall.
At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned.
Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere.

I dug up the 'cannabis like' plant from my garden a few weeks ago as I
thought the leaves looked interesting and I hadn't seen it before. I
can't understand it being Cannabis. Somebody fairly nearby would have
to be growing it in their garden and I don't think my neighbours would
dare. I live out in the country with only a handful of neighbours.

The seeds I got from Madeira were the Caster Oil and the Morning Glory.


It's surprising how seeds get moved.
I found a small sunflower coming up at least 100 yds from my feeders, I
don't know if it was moved by Mice, a squirrel taking a chunk of food
with the seed in it or by birds but something moved it, and there is no
way it could have blown there.

Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant. Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit. Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice plant that isn't cannabis.

Are you not happy with the sorrel identification for no 5? It's been repeated by several people.

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Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for
that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will
do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The
leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of
variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't
Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The
lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant.
Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit.
Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly
turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what
to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice
plant that isn't cannabis.


Right, you're not happy because no one has been able to say with
certainty what the seedlings are.
Now lets see if you can actually give us some help.
You have said that 2 of the seeds came from the hotel car park in Madeira,
Just where did the other 3 come from?
Wild collected?
Packets that you threw away after sowing or where?

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On 16/06/2013 22:19, David Hill wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for
that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will
do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The
leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of
variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't
Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The
lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant.
Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit.
Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly
turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what
to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice
plant that isn't cannabis.


Right, you're not happy because no one has been able to say with
certainty what the seedlings are.
Now lets see if you can actually give us some help.
You have said that 2 of the seeds came from the hotel car park in Madeira,
Just where did the other 3 come from?
Wild collected?
Packets that you threw away after sowing or where?

If you still don't believe my identification of sorrel have a look at
this link.
http://www.turf.uiuc.edu/weed_web/re...rel_plant2.htm
David @ the damp side of Swansea Bay

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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ...

"Lintama" wrote


I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch pots.


DSCF 0458 looks like Acetosa sagittata.

DSFC DSCF0461 looks like a variety of tomato

DSCF 0462 looks like Cleome hassleriana.


For the last one look at this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMS5thMmmlY

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On 2013-06-16 17:19:13 +0100, Lintama said:

'Sacha[_10_ Wrote:
;985236']On 2013-06-14 16:17:07 +0100, Lintama said:
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I have a few plants which I grew from seed a few weeks ago but I don't
know what they are. A couple of seeds came from Madeira where I was
on
holiday. I picked the seeds up in the hotel car park. One of the
plants looks like it could be a weed.

Can anybody help identify them please? They are all in three inch
pots.


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Not at all sure about these so suggestions only!
1 Could be a Catalpa bignonoides
2 Tetrapanax?
3 Italian parsley? Doubtful!
4 Don't know
5 Sorrel


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Thanks for the suggestions Sacha. The 3rd isn't parsley or any herb for
that matter. It's tasteless. I haven't tasted the 5th one yet. I will
do so later. Not sure about the 1st one being Catalpa...thingy. The
leaves aren't quite the right shape unless there are a lot of
variations. It is growing fast as are the others. I know it isn't
Morning Glory now as it isn't a climber. The stem is stiff. The
lookalike parsley isn't growing fast so maybe it won't be a big plant.
Still not had a definite ID on any of them. They need to grow a bit.
Best to get more photos in a few weeks and post again. It's certainly
turning into a mystery for me. I'm a bit nervous of number 4 and what
to do with it. I don't want to destroy it as it might be a very nice
plant that isn't cannabis.


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I can't believe that you need to throw any of them away. Even if one
of them did turn out to be Cannabis sativa, you have plenty of evidence
that you've tried to establish its identity properly. And imo, none
of them are that. And no, your first plant isn't morning glory which
is Ipomoea and which we grow here as a perfectly legitimate climber.
I'm starting to think of Thunbergia, perhaps gregorrii. I think you'd
help yourself a lot if you took some of them suggestions given here and
fed them into Google images. You don't comment on Numbers 2 or 5, so
your own opinion on a Google image search may be of use to you. It will
be fascinating to get the ID on all these just out of curiosity.
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Hi Kay,

I went out this evening and tasted no.5 plant and it does have a sour taste, a bit like lemon so I think we have an ID on that one. I didn't know what sorrel was but I do now. Thank you.

It's a very characteristic leaf. Not many leaves have "ears" like that and coupled with colour, texture and growth habit it's a pretty definite id. Same family as rhubarb, so the acid taste is not unexpected.

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On 2013-06-16 23:33:48 +0100, Lintama said:

kay;985255 Wrote:
Are you not happy with the sorrel identification for no 5? It's been
repeated by several people.

Hi Kay,

I went out this evening and tasted no.5 plant and it does have a sour
taste, a bit like lemon so I think we have an ID on that one. I didn't
know what sorrel was but I do now. Thank you.


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If you grow enough of it, it makes a delicious soup.
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www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Might be good in a salad. Glad I grew it now. Thank you again.

Yes, I have looked on Google but still unsure. Can't get an exact match on any but the Sorrel which has been identified.

It'd help us all if you could give reasons. The picture I posted of a cannabis seedling looked remarkably like the picture Lintama posted, so what are the differences that you can see, either from that, or from your own experience, that makes you think that it's not?

You say the first isn't morning glory which is Ipomea, but the genus Ipomea has quite a number of species and varieties which look wildly different as seedlings - I've got two batches at the moment, one of which looks very like Lintama's, the other looking completely different. Lintama says hers isn't climbing, and it probably would be showing climbing tendencies by now, so it's probably right - was that what you were basing your comment on?

I'm not getting at you, but I use these threads to increase my own knowledge as I expect others do, so it's helpful, when it gets into a discussion, if people say the reasons why something can't be something.

I am very grateful for everybody's input. It's not that I'm not happy, I am finding this rather fun actually as to me it is like trying to solve a mystery which it is anyway. I have looked at Google images until my eyes have gone square. Some are very like the plants I have but not exactly. The castor oil plant and the tetrapanax are very similar.

As for where the seeds came from, I am a bit fuzzy over it now. The plant which is like the morning glory I dug up from my garden. I have found two more small seedlings now from roughly the same place. The cannabis type plant also was dug up from my back garden. The castor oil type plant, I can't remember but not from Madeira. The other one which looks like a little fern is from Madeira. The sorrel was from Madeira too.

Yep. It's sorrel allright. Thank you.

If it's from your garden, it almost certainly won't be an Ipomea. They're not native to the UK, and they don't survive our winters. That said, I do have one in our gravel terrace which has just reached the cotyledon stage which looks remarkable like an Ipomea (they have strange double-barrelled cotyledons).

Have you looked at buckwheat (Fagopyrum esculentum) of one of its relatives?

Not directly relevant, but I bumped into this interesing site:
Non-Native Plant Species - URS
- it has pictures of seedlings as well as mature plants

If it's from your garden, it almost certainly won't be an Ipomea. They're not native to the UK, and they don't survive our winters. That said, I do have one in our gravel terrace which has just reached the cotyledon stage which looks remarkable like an Ipomea (they have strange double-barrelled cotyledons).

Have you looked at buckwheat (Fagopyrum esculentum) of one of its relatives?

Not directly relevant, but I bumped into this interesting site:
Non-Native Plant Species - URS
- it has pictures of seedlings as well as mature plants

Yes, the Fagopyrum esculentum is a very good match for my plant (no.1) Shouldn't be long before it flowers and that will clinch it. Where do you think would it come from? Do farmers grow it and what is it used for? We have lots of fields round us.

It's OK, I Googled it to find out what the uses are.

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On 15/06/2013 22:32, kay wrote:
Lintama;985188 Wrote:


Can't be cannabis though. .

Why do you say that?

You said some of the seeds came from a car park in Malta, if I recall.
At one time, birdseed contained cannabis but in the UK it was banned.
Not sure whether the same happened elsewhere.


I'd be pretty certain (99.99%) that the plant in picture 4 is a form of
cannabis. Probably hemp (which is what was found in birdseed) rather
than the stuff you get high from.

It might have a slight smell - a sweetish smelling cross between cat
pee, tomato leaf and mint. The stronger the smell, the less hemp like
it will be:)

I think it's a UK native, so it will appear as a "weed" every now and then. The seeds are used as a cereal - you used to be able to get them in wholefood shops, and I think they're coming into fashion again as an alternative to rice. And aren't blinis made of buckwheat flour?