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Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

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On 07/07/2013 20:30, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?


Try Googling for Orobanche hederae. Interesting detail at
http://www.brc.ac.uk/plantatlas/inde...banche-hederae
Chiltern sell seeds, apparently.





Thank you, Chris. That's really interesting. I could find hardly
anything about it in any of my books. I should have tried Google, but
by the time I'd got thro' all my wild flower books, it was too late.
It's a fascinating plant. Thanks for the link.

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Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?
Once you become aware of it - ie Broomrape in general - you see it much more often! Common Broomrape is quite common really, and I usually spot it a couple of times a year just while out on a walk. It's even come up once or twice in a flowerbed in my garden, though I'm not sure quite what it was parasitising there. It's frequently mistaken for an orchid, as also is common toothwort.

It seems it just has very long-lived seeds which sit there in the soil waiting for the right conditions.
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On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape





Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.

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On 08/07/2013 17:01, echinosum wrote:
'Spider[_3_ Wrote:
;987061']Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in
my mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

Once you become aware of it - ie Broomrape in general - you see it much
more often! Common Broomrape is quite common really, and I usually spot
it a couple of times a year just while out on a walk. It's even come up
once or twice in a flowerbed in my garden, though I'm not sure quite
what it was parasitising there. It's frequently mistaken for an orchid,
as also is common toothwort.

It seems it just has very long-lived seeds which sit there in the soil
waiting for the right conditions.





Thanks, Echinosum. A friend has already told me she's seen something
similar in our local wood. I must go and take a look at that. You're
right, it does look a bit like an orchid. I confess when I first saw it
with the flowers barely open, it looked like a purple asparagus spear!
However, I don't think I'll try eating it!!

They're really interesting plants. I've even discovered that seeds are
available to buy. Must investigate that further. Thanks.

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On 09/07/2013 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape





Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.


Take it easy. Get well soon.




Thanks, Martin. It's still very painful atm. Must get it better for
Saturday when I go to Hampton Court Flower Show. Haven't missed it in
years.

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On 07/07/13 22:33, Spider wrote:

Thank you, Chris. That's really interesting. I could find hardly
anything about it in any of my books. I should have tried Google, but
by the time I'd got thro' all my wild flower books, it was too late.
It's a fascinating plant. Thanks for the link.


What time does Google shut, then?

D&RFC

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On 09/07/13 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape





Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.


Take it easy. Get well soon.


Isn't that what the sexy oyster did - pulled a mussel?

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On 28/07/2013 15:18, RustyHinge wrote:
On 07/07/13 22:33, Spider wrote:

Thank you, Chris. That's really interesting. I could find hardly
anything about it in any of my books. I should have tried Google, but
by the time I'd got thro' all my wild flower books, it was too late.
It's a fascinating plant. Thanks for the link.


What time does Google shut, then?

D&RFC





It was past my bedtime, or so I was told.

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On 28/07/2013 15:20, RustyHinge wrote:
On 09/07/13 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my
mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape




Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.


Take it easy. Get well soon.


Isn't that what the sexy oyster did - pulled a mussel?



Grooaaann! I shan't get a winkle of sleep now, after that :~).

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On 28/07/13 18:44, Spider wrote:
On 28/07/2013 15:20, RustyHinge wrote:
On 09/07/13 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my
mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape




Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.

Take it easy. Get well soon.


Isn't that what the sexy oyster did - pulled a mussel?



Grooaaann! I shan't get a winkle of sleep now, after that :~).


I'll clam up, then


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On 2013-07-28 18:44:25 +0100, Spider said:

On 28/07/2013 15:20, RustyHinge wrote:
On 09/07/13 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my
mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape




Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.

Take it easy. Get well soon.


Isn't that what the sexy oyster did - pulled a mussel?



Grooaaann! I shan't get a winkle of sleep now, after that :~).


You cod always take an aspirin!
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On 28/07/2013 20:29, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-07-28 18:44:25 +0100, Spider said:

On 28/07/2013 15:20, RustyHinge wrote:
On 09/07/13 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my
mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've
seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some
way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape




Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.

Take it easy. Get well soon.

Isn't that what the sexy oyster did - pulled a mussel?



Grooaaann! I shan't get a winkle of sleep now, after that :~).


You cod always take an aspirin!



I'll just crawl back to my favourite wooden leg, that's right
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On 28/07/13 21:18, David Hill wrote:
On 28/07/2013 20:29, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-07-28 18:44:25 +0100, Spider said:

On 28/07/2013 15:20, RustyHinge wrote:
On 09/07/13 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100,
wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my
mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've
seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some
way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape




Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.

Take it easy. Get well soon.

Isn't that what the sexy oyster did - pulled a mussel?



Grooaaann! I shan't get a winkle of sleep now, after that :~).


You cod always take an aspirin!



I'll just crawl back to my favourite wooden leg, that's right
It's my limb pet


Did that razor smile?

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On 28/07/2013 19:14, RustyHinge wrote:
On 28/07/13 18:44, Spider wrote:
On 28/07/2013 15:20, RustyHinge wrote:
On 09/07/13 08:43, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:45:22 +0100, Spider wrote:

On 08/07/2013 09:51, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 14:48:58 +0100, wrote:

Yesterday, I noticed a single stem of Ivy Broomrape growing in my
mainly
Pyracantha hedge where a pretty ivy grows through. Although I've
seen
images in books, I'd never seen a living one before. I believe it's
parasitic on ivy, but don't know how it gets there. Is it in some
way
endemic? Or is seed distributed by birds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broomrape




Thanks for that, Martin. Another useful link. I'll have a good read
tomorrow. Spent the day in the garden today and pulled a muscle
helfting something, so just catching up here now.
Thanks again.

Take it easy. Get well soon.

Isn't that what the sexy oyster did - pulled a mussel?



Grooaaann! I shan't get a winkle of sleep now, after that :~).


I'll clam up, then




Now don't get crabby.

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