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On 6 Aug 2013 07:57:41 GMT, Emery Davis wrote:
Not to mention we had a vicious thunder storm while away -- lost contents of fridge and big freezer, ... How long was te power off, fridges aren't particulary critical for 24 hrs provided you open it as little as possible. Freezers should manage 12 hours or longer, again don't open it. Unless you *really* have, think ahead when the power goes can help. In the case of the fridge take a bottle of milk out and wrap it in a wet tea towel. ... phones still out over a week later ... France Telecom not the fastest then. ... -- and there's lots of wood down including an elm lost. Nice bit of fire wood for next winter. B-) Overnight min 7.1 C, unless the room warms up a bit the heating will come on this evening. Sunny intervals so it probably will just get warm enough to keep the heating off, plenty of warmth in the sun so 20 C outside. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ill.co.uk... How long was te power off, fridges aren't particulary critical for 24 hrs provided you open it as little as possible. Freezers should manage 12 hours or longer, again don't open it. Unless you *really* have, think ahead when the power goes can help. In the case of the fridge take a bottle of milk out and wrap it in a wet tea towel. Yup - freezers (and fridges) are the main worry in my power cut scenario. Especially when they mainly contain home- made produce on which hours of time investment has been expended. Golden rule must be not to open the door of either until the power is restored. (not getting out bottles of milk etc - lol) In the case of the freezer, best left for a day - door unopened after the power is back. Two other tips - try to keep the freezer as full as possible even if that involves storing frozen water in addition to edible stuff. Secondly, keep a plastic milk bottle half full of frozen water in the freezer, only store it on its side once frozen. You will then be re-assured when you return from a holiday or other long absence when you see the vertical edge of the water therein on your return. Pete |
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On 06/08/13 11:14, Peter & Jeanne wrote:
Try to keep the freezer as full as possible even if that involves storing frozen water in addition to edible stuff. Yes indeed. Also consider putting blankets over the freezer to act as thermal insulation. But don't, of course, cover the hot radiator! Secondly, keep a plastic milk bottle half full of frozen water in the freezer, only store it on its side once frozen. You will then be re-assured when you return from a holiday or other long absence when you see the vertical edge of the water therein on your return. Nice trick! |
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On 06/08/2013 11:58, Martin wrote:
I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that unnecessary. think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor? -- Janet T. Amersham |
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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy wrote:
I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that unnecessary. think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut The bottles of frozen water would probably be better at keeping the temperature down under power fail conditions. otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor? On all the fridges/freezers I've seen the compressor is exposed to the air normally at the bottom back of the unit. I like the frozen bottle on it's side trick. It would require the freezer to have got *very* warm, a good indicator to chuck everything all the same. It wouldn't catch the freezer only getting to say -5 C, which may or may not be a problem anyway. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 06/08/13 13:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy wrote: I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that unnecessary. think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut The bottles of frozen water would probably be better at keeping the temperature down under power fail conditions. Without doubt the more mass at low temperature, the better, and that should be the first line of defense. All a blanket will do is reduce the heat flow "input" (i.e. leaking into) an unpowered freezer, so it will merely delay the inevitable a little. |
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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:49:40 +0200, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy wrote: On 06/08/2013 11:58, Martin wrote: I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that unnecessary. think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor? A good point. I doubt if it makes any difference. None of our freezers are cold to touch. Nor mine, it's a large Liebherr chest freezer, and very well insulated. As Pete pointed out earlier in the thread, the worst thing is losing all of the stuff you've already put hours into. But such is life sometimes. To keep the bad luck streak going, a neighbour slammed into the side of my car this morning and stove in both doors. No one hurt and no apparent structural damage, but it will be a real PITA. -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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Neighbours don't you just love them?
Yes. When my neighbour was building his garage next to mine for his Camper Van, we had one hell of a gust of wind and the wall which he was building 'went through my garage roof'. My car, a BMW was in my garage. Was it his fault? Of course not. Some people have a very short fuse :-( I pity them Have a super evening, the sun is shining here. Mike "Emery Davis" wrote in message ... On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:49:40 +0200, Martin wrote: On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy wrote: On 06/08/2013 11:58, Martin wrote: I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that unnecessary. think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor? A good point. I doubt if it makes any difference. None of our freezers are cold to touch. Nor mine, it's a large Liebherr chest freezer, and very well insulated. As Pete pointed out earlier in the thread, the worst thing is losing all of the stuff you've already put hours into. But such is life sometimes. To keep the bad luck streak going, a neighbour slammed into the side of my car this morning and stove in both doors. No one hurt and no apparent structural damage, but it will be a real PITA. -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On 06/08/13 11:58, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:27:18 +0100, Tom Gardner wrote: On 06/08/13 11:14, Peter & Jeanne wrote: Try to keep the freezer as full as possible even if that involves storing frozen water in addition to edible stuff. Yes indeed. Also consider putting blankets over the freezer to act as thermal insulation. But don't, of course, cover the hot radiator! I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that unnecessary. In a power cut, every little extra might make a difference! By comparison, my hot water cylinder is insulated by foam, but I was pleasantly surprised how much difference an extra insulating jacket made (even though I only heat water to 42/44C) |
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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:30:57 +0100, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 6 Aug 2013 07:57:41 GMT, Emery Davis wrote: Not to mention we had a vicious thunder storm while away -- lost contents of fridge and big freezer, ... How long was te power off, fridges aren't particulary critical for 24 hrs provided you open it as little as possible. Freezers should manage [] I don't know how long it was out exactly, but probably 4 days or more. The freezer has a 72 hour autonomy, as we frequently have pretty long outages in winter. Stuff in the fridge had mould growing, so the answer is "long enough." ... phones still out over a week later ... France Telecom not the fastest then. That's true, but in their defence they have plenty of work just now. Tomorrow they are meant to come with the nacelle truck. ... -- and there's lots of wood down including an elm lost. Nice bit of fire wood for next winter. B-) There's that. Small comfort, I'm afraid! Overnight min 7.1 C, unless the room warms up a bit the heating will come on this evening. Sunny intervals so it probably will just get warm enough to keep the heating off, plenty of warmth in the sun so 20 C outside. Yes, it's gotten markedly colder here too, though not 7! I think we saw 12 last night. -- Gardening in Lower Normandy |
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On 6 Aug 2013 15:56:36 GMT, Emery Davis wrote:
I don't know how long it was out exactly, but probably 4 days or more. Ouch, we had 36 hrs last winter after an ice storm brought down lots of lines and snapped a number if poles. The DNO worked hard to restore supplies pretty quickly IMHO. ... -- and there's lots of wood down including an elm lost. Nice bit of fire wood for next winter. B-) There's that. Small comfort, I'm afraid! True, mature trees are some thing to behold. Overnight min 7.1 C, unless the room warms up a bit the heating will come on this evening. Sunny intervals so it probably will ... Yes, it's gotten markedly colder here too, though not 7! I think we saw 12 last night. Day started with quite a bit of promise but clouded up and stayed cooler. Inside didn't warm up enough so the heating came on, first time since July 5th, therfore Summer is over Autumn is here. Also indicated by the females of the household turning their heaters back on yesterday... -- Cheers Dave. |
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