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On 06/08/13 11:14, Peter & Jeanne wrote:
Try to keep the freezer as full as possible even if that involves storing frozen water in addition
to edible stuff.


Yes indeed.

Also consider putting blankets over the freezer to act as thermal insulation.
But don't, of course, cover the hot radiator!


Secondly, keep a plastic milk bottle half full of frozen water in the freezer, only store it on its side once frozen.
You will then be re-assured when you return from a holiday or other long absence when you see the vertical edge of the water therein
on your return.


Nice trick!

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On 06/08/2013 11:58, Martin wrote:
I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that
unnecessary.



think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut
otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor?

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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy wrote:

I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that
unnecessary.


think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut


The bottles of frozen water would probably be better at keeping the
temperature down under power fail conditions.

otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor?


On all the fridges/freezers I've seen the compressor is exposed to
the air normally at the bottom back of the unit.

I like the frozen bottle on it's side trick. It would require the
freezer to have got *very* warm, a good indicator to chuck everything
all the same. It wouldn't catch the freezer only getting to say -5 C,
which may or may not be a problem anyway.

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On 06/08/13 13:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy wrote:

I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that
unnecessary.


think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut


The bottles of frozen water would probably be better at keeping the
temperature down under power fail conditions.


Without doubt the more mass at low temperature,
the better, and that should be the first line of
defense.

All a blanket will do is reduce the heat flow
"input" (i.e. leaking into) an unpowered freezer,
so it will merely delay the inevitable a little.


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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:49:40 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy
wrote:

On 06/08/2013 11:58, Martin wrote:
I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that
unnecessary.



think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut
otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor?


A good point. I doubt if it makes any difference. None of our freezers
are cold to touch.


Nor mine, it's a large Liebherr chest freezer, and very well insulated.

As Pete pointed out earlier in the thread, the worst thing is losing all
of the stuff you've already put hours into. But such is life sometimes.
To keep the bad luck streak going, a neighbour slammed into the side of
my car this morning and stove in both doors. No one hurt and no apparent
structural damage, but it will be a real PITA.



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Neighbours don't you just love them?

Yes.

When my neighbour was building his garage next to mine for his Camper Van,
we had one hell of a gust of wind and the wall which he was building 'went
through my garage roof'. My car, a BMW was in my garage.

Was it his fault?

Of course not.

Some people have a very short fuse :-(

I pity them

Have a super evening, the sun is shining here.

Mike



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On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:49:40 +0200, Martin wrote:

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:16:28 +0100, Janet Tweedy
wrote:

On 06/08/2013 11:58, Martin wrote:
I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that
unnecessary.



think you only need to cover freezer in the event of a power cut
otherwise won't you be keeping in the heat from the motor?


A good point. I doubt if it makes any difference. None of our freezers
are cold to touch.


Nor mine, it's a large Liebherr chest freezer, and very well insulated.

As Pete pointed out earlier in the thread, the worst thing is losing all
of the stuff you've already put hours into. But such is life sometimes.
To keep the bad luck streak going, a neighbour slammed into the side of
my car this morning and stove in both doors. No one hurt and no apparent
structural damage, but it will be a real PITA.



--
Gardening in Lower Normandy

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On 06/08/13 11:58, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:27:18 +0100, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 06/08/13 11:14, Peter & Jeanne wrote:
Try to keep the freezer as full as possible even if that involves storing frozen water in addition
to edible stuff.


Yes indeed.

Also consider putting blankets over the freezer to act as thermal insulation.
But don't, of course, cover the hot radiator!


I'd guess that a good freezer has enough insulation to make that
unnecessary.


In a power cut, every little extra might make a difference!

By comparison, my hot water cylinder is insulated by foam,
but I was pleasantly surprised how much difference an extra
insulating jacket made (even though I only heat water
to 42/44C)

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