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08-02-2014, 05:33 PM
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little conifer
OK its a little conifer in a front garden
ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol |
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08-02-2014, 05:38 PM
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Link requires password and username, what are they?
Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org "lol" wrote in message ... OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol |
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08-02-2014, 05:54 PM
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"'Mike'" wrote in message ... Link requires password and username, what are they? Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org "lol" wrote in message ... OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I see the problem - bliming computer put in ftp instead of http - sorry! http://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.c...dments/fir.jpg |
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#4
08-02-2014, 06:28 PM
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"lol" wrote in message ...
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... Link requires password and username, what are they? Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org "lol" wrote in message ... OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I see the problem - bliming computer put in ftp instead of http - sorry! http://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.c...dments/fir.jpg ===================================== Sorry? Why apologise? My daughter and son in law have one of these in their garden and the only problem they have is that one of the main vertical upright stems/branches has 'fallen out' and has had to be tied back to the main stem. Space wise? Don't have a clue but one of the 'experts' on this forum will come and tell you. Afraid that my daughter and son in law do not have a space problem so it can grow to some height. Yours appears to be a little different . Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org |
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08-02-2014, 06:30 PM
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On 08/02/2014 17:54, lol wrote:
"'Mike'" wrote in message ... Link requires password and username, what are they? Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org "lol" wrote in message ... OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I see the problem - bliming computer put in ftp instead of http - sorry! http://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.c...dments/fir.jpg ELLWOODII ?? |
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#6
08-02-2014, 06:39 PM
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David Hill wrote: On 08/02/2014 17:54, lol wrote: I see the problem - bliming computer put in ftp instead of http - sorry! http://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.c...dments/fir.jpg ELLWOODII ?? The trouble is that, even if we were certain of the species, there are usually very similar-looking varieties that vary immensely in growth and 'final size'. In some cases, the latter isn't even known .... However, most non-dwarf conifers eventually get too big for small gardens and have to be removed, and the way to estimate how long before that happens is just to see how fast they grow! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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#7
08-02-2014, 11:30 PM
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On 2014-02-08 20:28:24 +0000, Chris Hogg said:
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 18:30:32 +0000, David Hill wrote: On 08/02/2014 17:54, lol wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... Link requires password and username, what are they? Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org "lol" wrote in message ... OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I see the problem - bliming computer put in ftp instead of http - sorry! http://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.c...dments/fir.jpg ELLWOODII ?? My thoughts also, or to give it its full name, Chamaecyparis lawsoniana Ellwoodii, but there are dozens of similar conifers, for example Juniperus chinensis Pyramidalis. I showed it to Ray and asked his opinion. He said there are so many that he wouldn't even start to guess. But unless it's a yew, cutting into it to reduce or shape it risks an ugly outcome unless it's the mildest sort of trim that doesn't go back to old wood. Just at a glance and a guess from current habit, I would say that's going to get pretty big. But it may well take a long time to do so. Measure it over a year. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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#8
10-02-2014, 01:43 PM
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 18:30:32 +0000, David Hill wrote: On 08/02/2014 17:54, lol wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... Link requires password and username, what are they? Mike --------------------------------------------------------------- www.friendsofshanklintheatre.co.uk www.hmscollingwoodassociation.com www.rneba.org.uk www.nsrafa.org "lol" wrote in message ... OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I see the problem - bliming computer put in ftp instead of http - sorry! http://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.c...dments/fir.jpg ELLWOODII ?? My thoughts also, or to give it its full name, Chamaecyparis lawsoniana Ellwoodii, but there are dozens of similar conifers, for example Juniperus chinensis Pyramidalis. -- Chris Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea. Mild, but very exposed to salt gales Thanks. I think that may be its death warrant - there are so many much more interesting, or wildlife friandly plants that could replace it! |
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#9
08-02-2014, 08:27 PM
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On 08/02/2014 17:33, lol wrote:
OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol There's no such thing as a 'little' conifer. They all grow very tall, some slower than others. |
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#10
08-02-2014, 09:06 PM
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Saxman wrote: On 08/02/2014 17:33, lol wrote: OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it There's no such thing as a 'little' conifer. They all grow very tall, some slower than others. Er, there are even prostrate conifers that never grow higher than a few inches! Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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09-02-2014, 08:43 AM
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On 08/02/2014 21:06, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , Saxman wrote: On 08/02/2014 17:33, lol wrote: OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it There's no such thing as a 'little' conifer. They all grow very tall, some slower than others. Er, there are even prostrate conifers that never grow higher than a few inches! It was meant to be tongue in cheek, aimed at all those neighbours who use them as a fence line or plant them outside the front door. |
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09-02-2014, 09:17 AM
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On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:27:58 +0000, Saxman
wrote: On 08/02/2014 17:33, lol wrote: OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol There's no such thing as a 'little' conifer. They all grow very tall, some slower than others. Some conifers only grow a few feet high. Steve -- EasyNN-plus More than just a neural network http://www.easynn.com SwingNN Prediction software http://www.swingnn.com JustNN Just a neural network http://www.justnn.com |
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10-02-2014, 04:59 PM
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On 08/02/2014 17:33, lol wrote:
OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I can't name it off the top of my head, but my immediate neighbour had one exactly like that. It eventually grew until it was interfering with the telephone cables. It had to be removed. If you decide to get rid of yours, make sure there isn't a TPO (Tree Preservation Order) on it, or you could be fined for chopping it down without permission. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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10-02-2014, 05:18 PM
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On 10/02/2014 16:59, Spider wrote:
On 08/02/2014 17:33, lol wrote: OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I can't name it off the top of my head, but my immediate neighbour had one exactly like that. It eventually grew until it was interfering with the telephone cables. It had to be removed. If you decide to get rid of yours, make sure there isn't a TPO (Tree Preservation Order) on it, or you could be fined for chopping it down without permission. It annoys me when you see packs of 6 "Miniature" conifers all about 8 to 9 inches tall, but all of which will grow to 10 to 20 ft in the next 10 years. |
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10-02-2014, 06:56 PM
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On 10/02/2014 17:18, David Hill wrote:
On 10/02/2014 16:59, Spider wrote: On 08/02/2014 17:33, lol wrote: OK its a little conifer in a front garden ftp://www.ldwilmer.pwp.blueyonder.co...dments/fir.jpg Question is how do we go about identifying it? These things all look the same to me, want to know how big its going to grow and if we can safely leave it Many thanks, Lol I can't name it off the top of my head, but my immediate neighbour had one exactly like that. It eventually grew until it was interfering with the telephone cables. It had to be removed. If you decide to get rid of yours, make sure there isn't a TPO (Tree Preservation Order) on it, or you could be fined for chopping it down without permission. It annoys me when you see packs of 6 "Miniature" conifers all about 8 to 9 inches tall, but all of which will grow to 10 to 20 ft in the next 10 years. I know exactly what you mean, David, it drives me mad, too. Of course, they're meant to be used for 'bedding statement' planting, but when they grow past that usage, gardeners put them in their borders without appreciating the consequences. These mini conifers should at least be labeled so gardeners can research the ultimate height before choosing to plant. -- Spider. On high ground in SE London gardening on heavy clay |
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