The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

"David Hill" wrote

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year round
and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

Frost does not affect Geraniums much at all, they are quite hardy, except
for a couple of the large species. :-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 03/07/2014 22:54, Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Hill" wrote

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

Frost does not affect Geraniums much at all, they are quite hardy,
except for a couple of the large species. :-)


Sorry Bob I should have added that the picture accompanying the item was
of a pelagonium, but I thought the bit "Flower all year" would have made
it obvious that it wasn't any form of hardy geranium

"David Hill" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Hill" wrote

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

Frost does not affect Geraniums much at all, they are quite hardy,
except for a couple of the large species. :-)


Sorry Bob I should have added that the picture accompanying the item was of
a pelagonium, but I thought the bit "Flower all year" would have made it
obvious that it wasn't any form of hardy geranium


Only joking David, I find it very strange that the "trade" still call them
Geraniums when they have been Pelagoniums for a very long time, 1932 wasn't
it. Yet they changed to from using Datura to Brugmansia almost instantly as
they have other plants that had their names changed.

That said I did hear a chap in RHS Wisley shop say to his wife " they
haven't got any Geraniums, it says Pelagoniums, we'll have to go to a GC" so
perhaps there is a reason for the reluctance to change.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 2014-07-04 14:21:02 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"David Hill" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Hill" wrote

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

Frost does not affect Geraniums much at all, they are quite hardy,
except for a couple of the large species. :-)


Sorry Bob I should have added that the picture accompanying the item
was of a pelagonium, but I thought the bit "Flower all year" would have
made it obvious that it wasn't any form of hardy geranium


Only joking David, I find it very strange that the "trade" still call
them Geraniums when they have been Pelagoniums for a very long time,
1932 wasn't it. Yet they changed to from using Datura to Brugmansia
almost instantly as they have other plants that had their names changed.

That said I did hear a chap in RHS Wisley shop say to his wife " they
haven't got any Geraniums, it says Pelagoniums, we'll have to go to a
GC" so perhaps there is a reason for the reluctance to change.

It's probably because the vast majority of customers still ask for
Geraniums, not Pelargoniums and you so often have to ask exactly which
they want. It's quite surprising how many people still don't know there
is a difference and it's important to ensure they're getting what they
want, of course! We quite often talk among ourselves about 'geraniums'
when we mean Pelargoniums. We just know what we mean once the
conversation goes a tiny bit further! ;-)
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2014-07-05 10:46:13 +0000, Chris Hogg said:
snip
I had a SIL (now an ex-SIL) who swore blind that geraniums (as in
pelargoniums) were derived from cranesbills, and she wouldn't be
shifted from that view, because 'an old gardener had told her'!

What a shame he wasn't a lot more specific! Very useful plants the
hardy geraniums. They seem to be happy almost anywhere. I'm very fond
of 'Rozanne', which used to be called 'Jolly Bee' but I think my
favourite is 'Splish Splash' because I like the random blue streaking
on the petals.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 05/07/2014 11:46, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:35:59 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2014-07-04 14:21:02 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"David Hill" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Hill" wrote

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

Frost does not affect Geraniums much at all, they are quite hardy,
except for a couple of the large species. :-)


Sorry Bob I should have added that the picture accompanying the item
was of a pelagonium, but I thought the bit "Flower all year" would have
made it obvious that it wasn't any form of hardy geranium


Only joking David, I find it very strange that the "trade" still call
them Geraniums when they have been Pelagoniums for a very long time,
1932 wasn't it. Yet they changed to from using Datura to Brugmansia
almost instantly as they have other plants that had their names changed.

That said I did hear a chap in RHS Wisley shop say to his wife " they
haven't got any Geraniums, it says Pelagoniums, we'll have to go to a
GC" so perhaps there is a reason for the reluctance to change.

It's probably because the vast majority of customers still ask for
Geraniums, not Pelargoniums and you so often have to ask exactly which
they want. It's quite surprising how many people still don't know there
is a difference and it's important to ensure they're getting what they
want, of course! We quite often talk among ourselves about 'geraniums'
when we mean Pelargoniums. We just know what we mean once the
conversation goes a tiny bit further! ;-)

I had a SIL (now an ex-SIL) who swore blind that geraniums (as in
pelargoniums) were derived from cranesbills, and she wouldn't be
shifted from that view, because 'an old gardener had told her'!


A very prestigious garden centre we visited recently didn't seem to know
the difference. I imagine someone had ordered a million "deep red
geranium" labels from the printers and didn't want to waste them. Very
confusing but I forgive them because they had the elusive erigeron
karvinskianus in stock (well, just one hiding in a corner).

"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:35:59 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2014-07-04 14:21:02 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"David Hill" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Hill" wrote

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

Frost does not affect Geraniums much at all, they are quite hardy,
except for a couple of the large species. :-)


Sorry Bob I should have added that the picture accompanying the item
was of a pelagonium, but I thought the bit "Flower all year" would have
made it obvious that it wasn't any form of hardy geranium


Only joking David, I find it very strange that the "trade" still call
them Geraniums when they have been Pelagoniums for a very long time,
1932 wasn't it. Yet they changed to from using Datura to Brugmansia
almost instantly as they have other plants that had their names changed.

That said I did hear a chap in RHS Wisley shop say to his wife " they
haven't got any Geraniums, it says Pelagoniums, we'll have to go to a
GC" so perhaps there is a reason for the reluctance to change.

It's probably because the vast majority of customers still ask for
Geraniums, not Pelargoniums and you so often have to ask exactly which
they want. It's quite surprising how many people still don't know there
is a difference and it's important to ensure they're getting what they
want, of course! We quite often talk among ourselves about 'geraniums'
when we mean Pelargoniums. We just know what we mean once the
conversation goes a tiny bit further! ;-)

I had a SIL (now an ex-SIL) who swore blind that geraniums (as in
pelargoniums) were derived from cranesbills, and she wouldn't be
shifted from that view, because 'an old gardener had told her'!

--

Chris

Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea.
Mild, but very exposed to salt gales

I think the name change goes back further, it was proposed when Carl
linnaeus died back in the 1700's it was he who had insisted that they were
all Geraniums, but as soon as the other botanists got a chance got a chance
it was split into 5 different genera as there are obvious differences.

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

On 04/07/2014 15:21, Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Hill" wrote

Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Hill" wrote

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

Frost does not affect Geraniums much at all, they are quite hardy,
except for a couple of the large species. :-)


Sorry Bob I should have added that the picture accompanying the item
was of a pelagonium, but I thought the bit "Flower all year" would
have made it obvious that it wasn't any form of hardy geranium


Only joking David, I find it very strange that the "trade" still call
them Geraniums when they have been Pelagoniums for a very long time,
1932 wasn't it. Yet they changed to from using Datura to Brugmansia
almost instantly as they have other plants that had their names changed.



My understanding was that Brugmansia and Datura were two different
plants (though closely related), where the Brug flowers are pendant and
the Datura flowers are erect. Is this wrong?



That said I did hear a chap in RHS Wisley shop say to his wife " they
haven't got any Geraniums, it says Pelagoniums, we'll have to go to a
GC" so perhaps there is a reason for the reluctance to change.


--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

In article ,
Spider wrote:
On 04/07/2014 15:21, Bob Hobden wrote:

Only joking David, I find it very strange that the "trade" still call
them Geraniums when they have been Pelagoniums for a very long time,
1932 wasn't it. Yet they changed to from using Datura to Brugmansia
almost instantly as they have other plants that had their names changed.

My understanding was that Brugmansia and Datura were two different
plants (though closely related), where the Brug flowers are pendant and
the Datura flowers are erect. Is this wrong?

I should have to investigate, but the former are usually perennial
and the latter annual, too. However, not long ago, they were ALL
called Datura. Some botanical name changes are justified, but
others are merely done to massage the egos of the bureaucrats that
claim to be scientists.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 2014-07-03 21:19:33 +0000, David Hill said:

The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower all year
round and give your garden an instant splash of colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

I suppose they mean Pels?!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
The Gardening club newsletter from Wyevale has this offer
Get a free geranium when you spend £15.00 or more

"Geraniums are this season's must-have plant - they flower
all year round and give your garden an instant splash of
colour."

No mention of what frost does to them.

At the risk of being banned by Sacha for saying bad things,
I have to say that I found a nice orchid in a reduced bin at
Wyevale, and hadn't brought enough money to buy it. When I
came back a couple of hours later to buy it, the cleaner,
who was nowhere to be seen, had picked it up and put it in
his cleaning trolley. I saw it and I remonstrated with the
manager but she said, no it was his for free. When I
offered to pay for it, she said no, it was his, not mine
(the customer's). So I shall not be going to Wyevale again.

someone