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Ophelia[_9_] 16-08-2014 09:59 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 


"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:37:47 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



"Clive George" wrote in message
. ..
I see in another group that our dear darling Judith has ben complaining
about
the behaviour of posters in one of the uk groups - to wit, URC.

In terms of the favourite Judithism ("****wit"): "URC is full of them".

You could not make this up.


I take it you mean uk.rec.cycling? He is at it in uk.rec.gardening as
well. He never swears in there but made a mistake when crossposting.
Have a look. He posts as: Judith in England.



As usual the silly bitch gets it totally wrong again.

Those with a brain spotted that the posts were not actually made by me -
but by
the resident forger.

She really is a dozy cow; but it's nice she takes such an interest in me.


Odd how any group you post in has a 'resident forger' eh? :)) None of the
other groups I post in has one (unless you are there of course)

I am leaving the following in because it seems to be the only pleasure you
get in life ... apart from overwatering your raised beds of course g


(Ophelia has a "life subscription" to the Daily Mail : wicked **** take
which the dozy cow swallowed.)
She also supports UKIP: says it all.


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Ophelia[_8_] 16-08-2014 10:03 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 


"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:37:47 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



"Clive George" wrote in message
...
I see in another group that our dear darling Judith has ben complaining
about
the behaviour of posters in one of the uk groups - to wit, URC.

In terms of the favourite Judithism ("****wit"): "URC is full of
them".

You could not make this up.

I take it you mean uk.rec.cycling? He is at it in uk.rec.gardening as
well. He never swears in there but made a mistake when crossposting.
Have a look. He posts as: Judith in England.



As usual the silly bitch gets it totally wrong again.

Those with a brain spotted that the posts were not actually made by me -
but by
the resident forger.

She really is a dozy cow; but it's nice she takes such an interest in me.


Odd how any group you post in has a 'resident forger' eh? :)) None of the
other groups I post in has one (unless you are there of course)

I am leaving the following in because it seems to be the only pleasure you
get in life ... apart from overwatering your raised beds of course g


(Ophelia has a "life subscription" to the Daily Mail : wicked **** take
which the dozy cow swallowed.)
She also supports UKIP: says it all.


Oh look, Judith is pretending to be me *again*. She IS the resident forger.

But yes, I did write that response which she has copied from
uk.net.news.moderation


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Ophelia[_8_] 17-08-2014 09:51 AM

What goes around, comes around...
 


"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:03:27 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:


Oh look, Judith is pretending to be me *again*. She IS the resident
forger.

But yes, I did write that response which she has copied from
uk.net.news.moderation


I'm not so sure. The headers for your doppelganger are the same as for
mine, and different from Judith in England, who says she posts
elsewhere as Judith, although I don't immediately have a message from
Judith to compare with.

In particular, the troublemaker uses Aioe and Postfilter, whereas
Judith in England uses Datemas and doesn't use Postfilter. However,
both do use the same version of Forte Agent. IIRC, the troublemaker
from the past also used Aioe and Postfilter. I suspect they're making
a nuisance of themselves again. Eventually they get bored and go away.

Apart from posting a comment that a particular message isn't from you,
I wouldn't say anything else. I just upsets people and serves the
purpose of the troublemaker.


'Judith' does this in other groups too. I have been a victim before as have
others. I use various groups and the only time this happens is when he
posts in them as too. He is a foul mouthed nasty piece of work and well
known for doing this. Him being polite is unusual and must be because he
needs information.

I don't think he realises I have been reading this group for a very long
time so noticed it immediately.

Ok I am out of this! Thank you for your response.


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Chris Hogg 22-08-2014 10:51 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



'Judith' does this in other groups too. I have been a victim before as have
others. I use various groups and the only time this happens is when he
posts in them as too. He is a foul mouthed nasty piece of work and well
known for doing this. Him being polite is unusual and must be because he
needs information.

I don't think he realises I have been reading this group for a very long
time so noticed it immediately.



How do you know it is a "he"?

Ophelia[_8_] 22-08-2014 11:09 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 


"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



'Judith' does this in other groups too. I have been a victim before as
have
others. I use various groups and the only time this happens is when he
posts in them as too. He is a foul mouthed nasty piece of work and well
known for doing this. Him being polite is unusual and must be because he
needs information.

I don't think he realises I have been reading this group for a very long
time so noticed it immediately.



How do you know it is a "he"?


Mistakes he has made over a long time. He has also been caught out
forgetting to change his headers before pretending to post as other people.

I don't post here after the lies I suffered from Martin, but I do always
read because I still like to learn. I will however defend myself if I am
being impersonated. I doubt I will post again unless he does it again.



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Ophelia[_8_] 22-08-2014 11:26 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 


"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



'Judith' does this in other groups too. I have been a victim before as
have
others. I use various groups and the only time this happens is when he
posts in them as too. He is a foul mouthed nasty piece of work and well
known for doing this. Him being polite is unusual and must be because he
needs information.

I don't think he realises I have been reading this group for a very long
time so noticed it immediately.



How do you know it is a "he"?


Mistakes he has made over a long time. He has also been caught out
forgetting to change his headers before pretending to post as other
people.

I don't post here after the lies I suffered from Martin, but I do always
read because I still like to learn. I will however defend myself if I am
being impersonated. I doubt I will post again unless he does it again.


Why did you cross post this to uk.politics.misc? I just noticed. Can I
take it you are in on his games?

Ugh.


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Basil Jet 23-08-2014 07:27 AM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On 2014\08\22 23:09, Ophelia wrote:


"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



'Judith' does this in other groups too. I have been a victim before
as have
others. I use various groups and the only time this happens is when he
posts in them as too. He is a foul mouthed nasty piece of work and
well
known for doing this. Him being polite is unusual and must be
because he
needs information.

I don't think he realises I have been reading this group for a very long
time so noticed it immediately.



How do you know it is a "he"?


Mistakes he has made over a long time. He has also been caught out
forgetting to change his headers before pretending to post as other people.

I don't post here after the lies I suffered from Martin, but I do always
read because I still like to learn. I will however defend myself if I
am being impersonated. I doubt I will post again unless he does it again.


You don't post where? news:uk.rec.gardening or news:uk.politics.misc ?


Ophelia[_8_] 23-08-2014 10:11 AM

What goes around, comes around...
 


"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...
On 2014\08\22 23:09, Ophelia wrote:


"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:15 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



'Judith' does this in other groups too. I have been a victim before
as have
others. I use various groups and the only time this happens is when he
posts in them as too. He is a foul mouthed nasty piece of work and
well
known for doing this. Him being polite is unusual and must be
because he
needs information.

I don't think he realises I have been reading this group for a very
long
time so noticed it immediately.



How do you know it is a "he"?


Mistakes he has made over a long time. He has also been caught out
forgetting to change his headers before pretending to post as other
people.

I don't post here after the lies I suffered from Martin, but I do always
read because I still like to learn. I will however defend myself if I
am being impersonated. I doubt I will post again unless he does it
again.


You don't post where? news:uk.rec.gardening or news:uk.politics.misc ?


Good question, Baz. Hogg crossposted to ukpm to cause trouble. Now I will
continue this in ukpm if you wish.

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Judith in England 24-08-2014 08:41 AM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:03:27 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote:



"Ophelia" wrote in message
.. .


"Judith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:37:47 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:



"Clive George" wrote in message
m...
I see in another group that our dear darling Judith has ben complaining
about
the behaviour of posters in one of the uk groups - to wit, URC.

In terms of the favourite Judithism ("****wit"): "URC is full of
them".

You could not make this up.

I take it you mean uk.rec.cycling? He is at it in uk.rec.gardening as
well. He never swears in there but made a mistake when crossposting.
Have a look. He posts as: Judith in England.


As usual the silly bitch gets it totally wrong again.

Those with a brain spotted that the posts were not actually made by me -
but by
the resident forger.

She really is a dozy cow; but it's nice she takes such an interest in me.


Odd how any group you post in has a 'resident forger' eh? :)) None of the
other groups I post in has one (unless you are there of course)

I am leaving the following in because it seems to be the only pleasure you
get in life ... apart from overwatering your raised beds of course g


(Ophelia has a "life subscription" to the Daily Mail : wicked **** take
which the dozy cow swallowed.)
She also supports UKIP: says it all.


Oh look, Judith is pretending to be me *again*. She IS the resident forger.



You really are a dozy cow: I can assure you that I have not forged any posting
addresses at all.

Of course you will be able to post some sort of proof - perhaps you have
analysed the headers in order to come to that conclusion.

Why would anyone want to post inane posts as if they were from you: you do it
quite well on your own.



(Ophelia has a "life subscription" to the Daily Mail : wicked **** take which the dozy cow swallowed.)
She also supports UKIP: says it all.

Judith in England 24-08-2014 08:42 AM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:40:01 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:03:27 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:


Oh look, Judith is pretending to be me *again*. She IS the resident forger.

But yes, I did write that response which she has copied from
uk.net.news.moderation


I'm not so sure. The headers for your doppelganger are the same as for
mine, and different from Judith in England, who says she posts
elsewhere as Judith, although I don't immediately have a message from
Judith to compare with.

In particular, the troublemaker uses Aioe and Postfilter, whereas
Judith in England uses Datemas and doesn't use Postfilter. However,
both do use the same version of Forte Agent. IIRC, the troublemaker
from the past also used Aioe and Postfilter. I suspect they're making
a nuisance of themselves again. Eventually they get bored and go away.

Apart from posting a comment that a particular message isn't from you,
I wouldn't say anything else. I just upsets people and serves the
purpose of the troublemaker.



Thanks for your sensible analysis and comments: I doubt if she will understand
though.


Judith in England 24-08-2014 08:43 AM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:51:15 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote:

snip


'Judith' does this in other groups too.



Why not just post your proof or even analysis of headers which proves your
point.

You really are not bright you know.


Judith in England 24-08-2014 08:46 AM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 23:09:51 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote:

snip

How do you know it is a "he"?


Mistakes he has made over a long time. He has also been caught out
forgetting to change his headers before pretending to post as other people.



Of course you could perhaps post one single post which proves your point: over
to you.

On the other hand - perhaps you can't.

When people make accusations and then cannot back them up in any way whatsoever
they really do show their own stupidity.

I fail to see what my gender has anything to do with you.


Chris Hogg 24-08-2014 12:14 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:41:13 +0100, Judith in England
wrote:



Oh look, Judith is pretending to be me *again*. She IS the resident forger.



You really are a dozy cow: I can assure you that I have not forged any posting
addresses at all.



A Mandy Rice-Davies moment; though I must add that this in no way indicates an
opinion on the sex of the person at the keyboard doing the forging.

David Hill 25-08-2014 05:42 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 
On 25/08/2014 10:46, Chris Hogg wrote:
A Mandy Rice-Davies moment



Why malign that poor girl who was lead astray by the likes of Prefumo etc.

She was poor but she was honest,
though she came from 'umble stock,
And her honest heart was beating
Underneath her tattered frock.

But the rich man saw her beauty,
She knew not his base design,
And he took her to a hotel
And bought her a small port wine.

Chorus: It's the same the whole world over,
It's the poor what gets the blame,
It's the rich what gets the pleasure,
Isn't it a blooming shame?

In the rich man's arms she fluttered
Like a bird with a broken wing,
But he loved her and he left her,
Now she hasn't got no ring.

Time has flown - outcast and homeless
In the street she stands and says,
While the snowflakes fall around her,
'Won't you buy my bootlaces.'

Chorus:

Standing on the bridge at midnight
She says, 'Farewell, blighted love!'
There's a scream, a splash, good 'eavens!
What is she a doing of?

Soon they dragged her from the river,
Water from her clothes they wrang.
They all thought that she was drownded,
But the corpse got up and sang:

Chorus:

She was poor but she was honest,
Victim of a rich man's game.
First he loved her, then he left her,
And she lost her maiden name.

Then she ran away to London
For to hide her grief and shame.
There she met an Army captain,
And she lost her name again.


'Mike'[_4_] 25-08-2014 05:48 PM

What goes around, comes around...
 
David you can expect a letter to your family now for posting such a thing as
that on urg ;-(

Mike

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"David Hill" wrote in message ...

On 25/08/2014 10:46, Chris Hogg wrote:
A Mandy Rice-Davies moment



Why malign that poor girl who was lead astray by the likes of Prefumo etc.

She was poor but she was honest,
though she came from 'umble stock,
And her honest heart was beating
Underneath her tattered frock.

But the rich man saw her beauty,
She knew not his base design,
And he took her to a hotel
And bought her a small port wine.

Chorus: It's the same the whole world over,
It's the poor what gets the blame,
It's the rich what gets the pleasure,
Isn't it a blooming shame?

In the rich man's arms she fluttered
Like a bird with a broken wing,
But he loved her and he left her,
Now she hasn't got no ring.

Time has flown - outcast and homeless
In the street she stands and says,
While the snowflakes fall around her,
'Won't you buy my bootlaces.'

Chorus:

Standing on the bridge at midnight
She says, 'Farewell, blighted love!'
There's a scream, a splash, good 'eavens!
What is she a doing of?

Soon they dragged her from the river,
Water from her clothes they wrang.
They all thought that she was drownded,
But the corpse got up and sang:

Chorus:

She was poor but she was honest,
Victim of a rich man's game.
First he loved her, then he left her,
And she lost her maiden name.

Then she ran away to London
For to hide her grief and shame.
There she met an Army captain,
And she lost her name again.


Ophelia[_8_] 25-08-2014 11:12 PM

What goes around, comes around... (Apology to Chris Hogg)
 


"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:14:29 -0300, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 08:41:13 +0100, Judith in England
wrote:



Oh look, Judith is pretending to be me *again*. She IS the resident
forger.


You really are a dozy cow: I can assure you that I have not forged any
posting
addresses at all.



A Mandy Rice-Davies moment; though I must add that this in no way
indicates an
opinion on the sex of the person at the keyboard doing the forging.


Not me, again. Wrong headers and no sig. Sigh!


My apologies to Chris Hogg. I have realised you did not write this or cross
post the previous one. It is one of 'Judith's' games.

'Judith' complains that he doesn't forge addresses. Technically he is
correct because he knows if he uses real address, he could be in trouble so
he uses someone's name/nick with a ' address because most
people wouldn't notice the difference and which unfortunately, you already
have, so it was hard to tell. He also does that when posting himself
because he can get away with obscenities and pretend he didn't post it.

Several people have told me he is Peter Turtill. I leave it to anyone who
cares to follow that up.

Apologies again to you, and to everyone here.

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Rosey[_2_] 26-08-2014 09:14 AM

What goes around, comes around... (Apology to Chris Hogg)
 
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:12:06 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

snip


My apologies to Chris Hogg. I have realised you did not write this or cross
post the previous one. It is one of 'Judith's' games.

'Judith' complains that he doesn't forge addresses. Technically he is
correct because he knows if he uses real address, he could be in trouble so
he uses someone's name/nick with a ' address because most
people wouldn't notice the difference and which unfortunately, you already
have, so it was hard to tell. He also does that when posting himself
because he can get away with obscenities and pretend he didn't post it.

Several people have told me he is Peter Turtill. I leave it to anyone who
cares to follow that up.

Apologies again to you, and to everyone here.



Please will you STOP posting this tripe in urg.
No-one is interested in your childish vendettas
You made little contribution to gardening issues when you used to post
here.
Pleaase go away again.


--
The rose gardener
Spalding in Lincolnshire

Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 12:08 PM

Plum tree
 


"Rosey" wrote in message
...

Please will you STOP posting this tripe in urg.
No-one is interested in your childish vendettas
You made little contribution to gardening issues when you used to post
here.


Because I know little and would like to learn

Pleaase go away again.


I have only responded to others over this rubbish. I will always defend
myself wouldn't you?

I would love to post about gardening.

Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the
leaves have holes in them?


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Bob Hobden 26-08-2014 01:21 PM

Plum tree
 
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the
leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and only one
of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop. I believe it
was because there were no insects about when they flowered they they didn't
get pollinated.
--
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Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


philgurr 26-08-2014 01:25 PM

Plum tree
 

"Ophelia" wrote in message ...

Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the leaves have
holes in them?


Wish I could, mine has done the same!

Ardmhor



Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 01:51 PM

Plum tree
 


"philgurr" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the
leaves have holes in them?


Wish I could, mine has done the same!


Ahh. You are in Scotland too I think? But further north than I. Let us
hope someone has a remedy? :)


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Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 01:57 PM

Plum tree
 


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the
leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and only
one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop. I
believe it was because there were no insects about when they flowered they
they didn't get pollinated.


Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very long
time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples (James
Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?

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philgurr 26-08-2014 02:18 PM

Plum tree
 

"Ophelia" wrote in message ...


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the leaves have
holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and only one of our 4
cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop. I believe it was because there
were no insects about when they flowered they they didn't get pollinated.


Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very long time - but I
think they were too late. I do have some apples (James Grieve) but not too many. Down
to weather do you suppose?


I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!

Ardmhor



Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 02:48 PM

Plum tree
 


"philgurr" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the
leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and only
one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop. I
believe it was because there were no insects about when they flowered
they they didn't get pollinated.


Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?


I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Ahh that throws THAT theory out of the window then:) I didn't get any
flowers at all either. Was it exceptionally cold?


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indigo 26-08-2014 02:54 PM

Plum tree
 
On 26/08/2014 13:51, Ophelia wrote:

"philgurr" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the
leaves have holes in them?


Wish I could, mine has done the same!


Ahh. You are in Scotland too I think? But further north than I. Let us
hope someone has a remedy? :)


Not sure about the holey leaves, but did your tree fruit well last year?

I think plum trees can be prone to the same 'biennial bearing' as some
apples. My MiL used to say her ancient old Victoria plum would fruit
poorly if it had had a very heavy crop the previous year, as if it took
an extra season to build up strength again. That seems to be true as
last year the old tree hardly had any fruit at all, but this year is
absolutely dripping with plums.

--
Sue



Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 03:14 PM

Plum tree
 


"Indigo" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 26/08/2014 13:51, Ophelia wrote:

"philgurr" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...

Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and
the
leaves have holes in them?

Wish I could, mine has done the same!


Ahh. You are in Scotland too I think? But further north than I. Let
us
hope someone has a remedy? :)


Not sure about the holey leaves, but did your tree fruit well last year?

I think plum trees can be prone to the same 'biennial bearing' as some
apples. My MiL used to say her ancient old Victoria plum would fruit
poorly if it had had a very heavy crop the previous year, as if it took an
extra season to build up strength again. That seems to be true as last
year the old tree hardly had any fruit at all, but this year is absolutely
dripping with plums.


None last year, but loads the year before. Mine is a Victoria too. Perhaps
I should just keep my fingers crossed for next year? Maybe I was unlucky
this year because of a lack of insects. From what you say, no fruit this
year might mean a better crop next year ... all being well. :)



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Charlie Pridham[_2_] 26-08-2014 03:47 PM

Plum tree
 

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"philgurr" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and
the leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and
only one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop.
I believe it was because there were no insects about when they flowered
they they didn't get pollinated.

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?


I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Ahh that throws THAT theory out of the window then:) I didn't get any
flowers at all either. Was it exceptionally cold?


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A lot of Fruit trees like a proper period of cold to set the dormant buds
for the following year, it varies a lot from variety to variety, also a cold
windy blast at the wrong time can cause mayhem with the emerging flower
buds.

I had a good set on all my fruit trees only to watch a lot go down with
scab, pear midge and plum moth.

Thank god for Figs!!


--
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Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
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philgurr 26-08-2014 04:47 PM

Plum tree
 

"Ophelia" wrote in message ...


Snip

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very long time - but
I think they were too late. I do have some apples (James Grieve) but not too many.
Down to weather do you suppose?


I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Ahh that throws THAT theory out of the window then:) I didn't get any flowers at all
either. Was it exceptionally cold?


Hardly, the warmest winter in living memory and the bees started foraging
six weeks early. Not to do with cropping either, planted last year and the
first years flowers removed. Probably decided that it wasn't worth
producing any this year!

Ardmhor



'Mike'[_4_] 26-08-2014 05:00 PM

Plum tree
 
With only a small garden, we decided that the space our Viccy was taking up
and how few Plums it produced, it was a waste of valuable space, so we
hooked it out and extended the Veg gardens. 'Extended the veg gardens',
someone will love that!!! Made "another" 6 ft by 4 ft raised bed from old
fence panels to sit alongside the other 'one'!!!

Enorma Runner Beans doing fantastic and thanks for those who have been in
contact with advice and comments, great aren't they? And after last night's
rain a superb crop today :-))

Mike

..................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 27th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’



"philgurr" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


Snip

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?


I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Ahh that throws THAT theory out of the window then:) I didn't get any
flowers at all either. Was it exceptionally cold?


Hardly, the warmest winter in living memory and the bees started foraging
six weeks early. Not to do with cropping either, planted last year and the
first years flowers removed. Probably decided that it wasn't worth
producing any this year!

Ardmhor


Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 05:35 PM

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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"philgurr" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and
the leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and
only one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop.
I believe it was because there were no insects about when they
flowered they they didn't get pollinated.

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?

I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Ahh that throws THAT theory out of the window then:) I didn't get any
flowers at all either. Was it exceptionally cold?


--
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A lot of Fruit trees like a proper period of cold to set the dormant buds
for the following year, it varies a lot from variety to variety, also a
cold windy blast at the wrong time can cause mayhem with the emerging
flower buds.


So really, it is in the lap of the gods and there is nothing I can do but
wait? Actually hearing all this is something of a relief. I thought I had
done something wrong to it:)

I had a good set on all my fruit trees only to watch a lot go down with
scab, pear midge and plum moth.


Oh dear:(

Thank god for Figs!!


G I've never thought of growing figs:)


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Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 05:35 PM

Plum tree
 


"philgurr" wrote in message
...

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


Snip

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?

I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Ahh that throws THAT theory out of the window then:) I didn't get any
flowers at all either. Was it exceptionally cold?


Hardly, the warmest winter in living memory and the bees started foraging
six weeks early. Not to do with cropping either, planted last year and the
first years flowers removed. Probably decided that it wasn't worth
producing any this year!


Thanks. How disheartening. At least I am not alone!

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Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 05:36 PM

Plum tree
 


"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
With only a small garden, we decided that the space our Viccy was taking
up and how few Plums it produced, it was a waste of valuable space, so we
hooked it out and extended the Veg gardens. 'Extended the veg gardens',
someone will love that!!! Made "another" 6 ft by 4 ft raised bed from old
fence panels to sit alongside the other 'one'!!!

Enorma Runner Beans doing fantastic and thanks for those who have been in
contact with advice and comments, great aren't they? And after last
night's rain a superb crop today :-))


Well it's an idea, but I do love my plums and have had wonderful crops in
other years in other gardens. I might wait it out for while.

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Nick Maclaren[_3_] 26-08-2014 05:47 PM

Plum tree
 
In article ,
philgurr wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote in message ...

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very long time - but
I think they were too late. I do have some apples (James Grieve) but not too many.
Down to weather do you suppose?

I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Ahh that throws THAT theory out of the window then:) I didn't get any flowers at all
either. Was it exceptionally cold?


Hardly, the warmest winter in living memory and the bees started foraging
six weeks early. Not to do with cropping either, planted last year and the
first years flowers removed. Probably decided that it wasn't worth
producing any this year!


Not here, it wasn't. It was long and wet, and bees were in VERY
short supply until very late. My peach almost completely failed
to set for that reason, though my damsons set OK.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Bob Hobden 26-08-2014 05:57 PM

Plum tree
 
"philgurr" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and the
leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and only
one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop. I
believe it was because there were no insects about when they flowered
they they didn't get pollinated.


Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?


I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Here there were lots of flowers but nothing to pollinate them.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 06:09 PM

Plum tree
 


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"philgurr" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and
the leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and
only one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop.
I believe it was because there were no insects about when they flowered
they they didn't get pollinated.

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?


I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Here there were lots of flowers but nothing to pollinate them.


:( how disheartening.

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Vir Campestris 26-08-2014 09:28 PM

Plum tree
 
On 26/08/2014 17:36, Ophelia wrote:
Well it's an idea, but I do love my plums and have had wonderful crops in
other years in other gardens. I might wait it out for while.


We haven't been here a whole year, so I can't compare with the past -
but the apple I thought I'd take down before it fell down might now fall
down under the weight of fruit, and we have loads of damsons.

Cambs FWIW.

Andy

Ophelia[_8_] 26-08-2014 09:35 PM

Plum tree
 


"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 26/08/2014 17:36, Ophelia wrote:
Well it's an idea, but I do love my plums and have had wonderful crops in
other years in other gardens. I might wait it out for while.


We haven't been here a whole year, so I can't compare with the past - but
the apple I thought I'd take down before it fell down might now fall down
under the weight of fruit, and we have loads of damsons.

Cambs FWIW.


You are just showing off now ;-)

Lucky you:)

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Bob Hobden 27-08-2014 08:24 AM

Plum tree
 
"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"philgurr" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and
the leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and
only one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop.
I believe it was because there were no insects about when they
flowered they they didn't get pollinated.

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?

I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Here there were lots of flowers but nothing to pollinate them.


:( how disheartening.


One cherry tree had more flowers than it ever has and yet not one cherry.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK


Sacha[_11_] 27-08-2014 10:35 AM

Plum tree
 
On 2014-08-27 07:24:30 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"philgurr" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and
the leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and
only one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent crop.
I believe it was because there were no insects about when they flowered
they they didn't get pollinated.

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?

I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Here there were lots of flowers but nothing to pollinate them.


:( how disheartening.


One cherry tree had more flowers than it ever has and yet not one cherry.


Sounds like the world needs a few more apiarists. even a single hive
could make a difference for miles around.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Ophelia[_8_] 27-08-2014 04:27 PM

Plum tree
 


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"philgurr" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Ophelia" wrote
Please advise me on my plum tree which has not fruited this year and
the leaves have holes in them?

The plum tree on our allotments hasn't fruited this year either and
only one of our 4 cherries, the later flowered one, had a decent
crop. I believe it was because there were no insects about when they
flowered they they didn't get pollinated.

Thank you. We did get a lot of bees - which I hadn't seen for a very
long time - but I think they were too late. I do have some apples
(James Grieve) but not too many. Down to weather do you suppose?

I am a beekeeper so no problem with pollinators. I just
didn't get any flowers!


Here there were lots of flowers but nothing to pollinate them.


:( how disheartening.


One cherry tree had more flowers than it ever has and yet not one cherry.


Oh:(((

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