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On 27/08/2014 20:18, Spider wrote:
On 27/08/2014 19:47, Ophelia wrote:


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Hi again Ophelia,

I'm dealing with the climbing Hydrangea first as it should be pruned
after flowering, if needed. In fact, The Book says no formative
pruning is necessary. However, looking at your pic, I can see that,
indeed, there is a lot of growth low down. It certainly *looks*
healthy enough, so I'm going for a 'shot in the dark': as far as I
can see, no part of the hydrangea is attached (by aerial roots) to
anything, although it seems to be roughly supported by the trellis
behind, and this may be the problem. (I'm surmising here that the
problem is that it is not really climbing and growing away, but
putting all its growth near the bottom of what is effectively the
trunk?)


I just didn't understand why the trunk was sprouting so much growth. It
always used to be bare. There has been plenty of growth at the top and
plenty of flowers. Actually almost the whole of the trunk is now
lush) I have never tied it to the trellis, it just seemed to attach
itself I will post a pic of the top if that would be helpful - and
if you don't mind? It would give you a better view. Certainly I have
never pruned it. I wouldn't really know if it needed it or not


A climbing hydrangea needs to be tied in to a supporting structure
like a wall or tree until it forms aerial roots and securely attaches
itself. Once it has done this, apparently, it will climb away
vigorously. So, if my surmise is correct, you will need to give it a
proper support, tie young growths in until they 'take' and stand well
back.


Thank you! . I will check it out in the morning and cut out the dead
flowers and make sure it is all secure. It sits next to the cotoneaster
so maybe they support each other



Hoping this is what you want to hear ;~).


Oh yes I am Very Grateful for All your advice! I know very little
and am gardening 'in the dark' if you see what I mean. I have been
reading here and have been learning bit by bit, but not as fully as the
advice you are giving me now))) This is the garden at our cottage and
I haven't had too much time to spend up here anyway, apart from the fact
that we have been travelling with work for several years as well, so
this garden has been somewhat neglected. I will post a pic of the tops
... if that is ok with you?

Thank you very much!

Ophelia




By all means post another pic and I will take a look at it (probably on
Friday, as I said in my other post) and see if it tells me anything new.
It may just be that it's very happy and only wants the lightest of
trims after flowering. If you're happy with its shape and the received
wisdom is not to prune, then happily this may be a non-problem ;~). If
there is some specific area you're not happy with, try and describe it
as best you can, so I know what I'm looking at. I'll look in again soon.




Sorry, Ophelia, I didn't attempt to answer your query about the sudden
sprouting of growth near the base. I can't be certain, but is it
possible that there has been some damage (perhaps due to your canine
friend? or the weather? or pest damage?) which has caused the hydrangea
to put fight back by putting on growth? Otherwise, I'm wondering about
a source of extra nutrients. Has a neighbour - or yourself - moved a
tree/shrub nearby which has allowed both more water and food to reach
your tree?

Sorry to answer in questions, but that's just my line of thought at the
moment and I'm thinking out loud.

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Sorry, Ophelia, I didn't attempt to answer your query about the sudden
sprouting of growth near the base. I can't be certain, but is it possible
that there has been some damage (perhaps due to your canine friend? or the
weather? or pest damage?) which has caused the hydrangea to put fight back
by putting on growth?


Other than the fact that our dog began to chew the cotoneaster ... I don't
think she went near the hydrangea. As for the rest ... I don't know because
we haven't been here for a long time.


Otherwise, I'm wondering about
a source of extra nutrients. Has a neighbour - or yourself - moved a
tree/shrub nearby which has allowed both more water and food to reach your
tree?


Yes! There was a bin of compost which had been sitting there for a few
years and when we came back we emptied it and scattered the contents around!
Could that account for the extra lower growth?


Sorry to answer in questions, but that's just my line of thought at the
moment and I'm thinking out loud.


Please do I am thrilled you are bothering)

Thank you

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On 27/08/2014 21:19, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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Sorry, Ophelia, I didn't attempt to answer your query about the sudden
sprouting of growth near the base. I can't be certain, but is it
possible that there has been some damage (perhaps due to your canine
friend? or the weather? or pest damage?) which has caused the
hydrangea to put fight back by putting on growth?


Other than the fact that our dog began to chew the cotoneaster ... I
don't think she went near the hydrangea. As for the rest ... I don't
know because we haven't been here for a long time.


Otherwise, I'm wondering about
a source of extra nutrients. Has a neighbour - or yourself - moved a
tree/shrub nearby which has allowed both more water and food to reach
your tree?


Yes! There was a bin of compost which had been sitting there for a few
years and when we came back we emptied it and scattered the contents
around!
Could that account for the extra lower growth?




Yes! It certainly could. Don't you put on extra growth (especially
lower down!) if you devour a feast!? Well, that seems to account for
it, then. Mystery solved.



Sorry to answer in questions, but that's just my line of thought at
the moment and I'm thinking out loud.


Please do I am thrilled you are bothering)

Thank you


You're welcome.
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On 27/08/2014 21:19, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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Sorry, Ophelia, I didn't attempt to answer your query about the sudden
sprouting of growth near the base. I can't be certain, but is it
possible that there has been some damage (perhaps due to your canine
friend? or the weather? or pest damage?) which has caused the
hydrangea to put fight back by putting on growth?


Other than the fact that our dog began to chew the cotoneaster ... I
don't think she went near the hydrangea. As for the rest ... I don't
know because we haven't been here for a long time.


Otherwise, I'm wondering about
a source of extra nutrients. Has a neighbour - or yourself - moved a
tree/shrub nearby which has allowed both more water and food to reach
your tree?


Yes! There was a bin of compost which had been sitting there for a few
years and when we came back we emptied it and scattered the contents
around!
Could that account for the extra lower growth?




Yes! It certainly could. Don't you put on extra growth (especially lower
down!) if you devour a feast!? Well, that seems to account for it, then.
Mystery solved.


LOL true ) I am wondering if that should have affected the top growth
too. Maybe is has and I haven't seen


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