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On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:42:28 Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:

On 30/10/2014 23:36, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
On 27/10/2014 17:39, Bob Hobden wrote:
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turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and
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But not the references!

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:30:49 Martin wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:42:43 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message d Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

Blame the wine.


My grandma made the best potato-salad.
... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

At the time mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-)

I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the
best in the world but it's close.
It rises through the next shelf of my oven.

My wife makes the best YP on the world.
There used to be a Scarborough hotel chef who in winter toured mainland
European
holiday exhibitions as a participant on the Yorkshire part of the British
stands. He really made the best YPs ever. On the strength of his YPs, my Dutch
neighbours spent two weeks on a caravan holiday in the cold and rain in
Scotland one August.

Perhaps they should have spent the two weeks in Yorkshire. Anyone could
tell you that it is wet and cold in Scotland in August. And foggy. My
wife says so.

Can't quite see the logic of going to Scotland because they like
Yorkshire pudding.

David

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:43:05 +0000,
David Rance wrote:
Just changing the subject line.

But not the references!

Which is not false, as the responses are still the responses... :-)

David

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In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:33:30 +0100, Michael Uplawski
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:43:05 +0000,
David Rance wrote:
Just changing the subject line.

But not the references!

Which is not false, as the responses are still the responses... :-)

He was distracted with worry about why my neighbours visited Scotland.

Yes, they might have been going there to join up with the SNP
guerrillas, who are besieging Edinburgh.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote
, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
Bob Hobden wrote:
Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access,
turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and
suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99
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"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:42:43 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message d Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

Blame the wine.


My grandma made the best potato-salad.
... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

At the time mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-)

I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the
best in the world but it's close.
It rises through the next shelf of my oven.

My wife makes the best YP on the world.
There used to be a Scarborough hotel chef who in winter toured mainland
European
holiday exhibitions as a participant on the Yorkshire part of the British
stands. He really made the best YPs ever. On the strength of his YPs, my
Dutch
neighbours spent two weeks on a caravan holiday in the cold and rain in
Scotland one August.
--


g
When my German friend came to stay for the first time, she'd never
experienced a Yorkshire pudding. She loved it. She went home knowing how to
make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP with a veggie meal doesn't have
quite the same impact unless you have Quorn (which only recently arrived in
her local town this year)

It's easy to fail with YP's. The secret is to have your fat almost smoking
hot before you pour the batter in your tin and then do NOT open the oven
again until it is cooked.
Don't open the oven when the YP is in there to check on your meat otherwise
you'll end up with a flat biscuit type of thing.

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"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:46:49 +0000, David Rance

wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:30:49 Martin wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:42:43 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message d Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

Blame the wine.


My grandma made the best potato-salad.
... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

At the time mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-)

I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the
best in the world but it's close.
It rises through the next shelf of my oven.

My wife makes the best YP on the world.
There used to be a Scarborough hotel chef who in winter toured mainland
European
holiday exhibitions as a participant on the Yorkshire part of the British
stands. He really made the best YPs ever. On the strength of his YPs, my
Dutch
neighbours spent two weeks on a caravan holiday in the cold and rain in
Scotland one August.

Perhaps they should have spent the two weeks in Yorkshire. Anyone could
tell you that it is wet and cold in Scotland in August. And foggy. My
wife says so.


I endorse that. By coincidence we were in Scotland at the same time as
they
were. It was ironic that that August was one of the hottest of the century
in
Yorkshire and that they arrived and departed via Hull.


Can't quite see the logic of going to Scotland because they like
Yorkshire pudding.

They thought YP was available everywhere in UK. The YP was demonstrated
on the British stand.

And isn't it? You can even buy small ones ready made now, frozen, which
assumes you can make the rest of the roast dinner yourself.
And I'm not buying into the stereotype of "Scots only eat fried Mars Bars"
My father was Scottish and AFAIK never saw one of those, let alone ate one.

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On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:08:35 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

--
Cheers
Dave.

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On 01/11/2014 19:29, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:08:35 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

Yorkshire's for a Vegetarian?
I was taught the only way to make good ones was to use Beef dripping

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:08:35 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.


--
Cheers
Dave.


And you do that, do you?

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"David" wrote in message
...
On 01/11/2014 19:29, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:08:35 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

Yorkshire's for a Vegetarian?
I was taught the only way to make good ones was to use Beef dripping.

Absolutely.

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote

Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And don't get it
near my veg either.
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"Martin" wrote in message
...

He was distracted with worry about why my neighbours
visited Scotland.

Why? You won't die if you visit Scotland. Unless
your one of your parents is not a Scot..

I have a Scottish father and am allowed a Tartan. Actually two. McThomas
from my father & and Mc Cleod via my grandmother.
It's very important to have a tartan if you're Scottish which ticked off a
colleague at work, who had a Scottish accent but no entitlement to a tartan
at all.

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"Martin" wrote in message
...

He was distracted with worry about why my neighbours
visited Scotland.

Why? You won't die if you visit Scotland. Unless
your one of your parents is not a Scot..

I have a Scottish father and am allowed a Tartan. Actually two. McThomas
from my father & and Mc Cleod via my grandmother.
It's very important to have a tartan if you're Scottish which ticked off a
colleague at work, who had a Scottish accent but no entitlement to a tartan
at all.

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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote
, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
Bob Hobden wrote:
Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access,
turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and
suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to
US$29.99
per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap.

-- Regards
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from the W.of London. UK

So are Demon. (As of sometime tomorrow, following an announcement
yesterday.)

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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Dave Liquorice" wrote

Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And don't get
it near my veg either.
--
Nice beef gravy all over my YP.. and over my veg too
You have an unusual idea about gravy. what's the prob?

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"Christina Websell" wrote


"Bob Hobden" wrote
After a lot of research I've decided to try Teranews at US $3.95 one off
payment and so far it's doing OK.

Good luck with Teranews. What made you decide on them? How are they at
removing the spam?


Early days but so far I've yet to see any.
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"Christina Websell" wrote ...


"Bob Hobden" wrote
Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And don't get
it near my veg either.
--
Nice beef gravy all over my YP.. and over my veg too
You have an unusual idea about gravy. what's the prob?



I just only like a little on my meat nothing else. Always been the same, to
me it destroys the taste of everything else it's on, makes the whole meal
taste and look the same. Probably because my mother always used a gravy boat
and let everyone serve themselves gravy, I never did.
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In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote
Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And don't get it
near my veg either.

I am collaterally related to Sir Humphrey Davey (which is not
surprising for anyone with Cornish ancestry), and have the attitude
to gravy immortalised by E.C. Bentley.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Dave Liquorice" wrote

Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And don't get
it near my veg either.

Gravy makes the YP soggy.

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On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:43:08 -0000, Ophelia wrote:

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a
winters
evening.

Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And
don't
get it near my veg either.

Funny chap, but each to thier own ...

Gravy makes the YP soggy.

Yummy! and only the base, the top is still crisp.

--
Cheers
Dave.

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:43:08 -0000, Ophelia wrote:

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a
winters
evening.

Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And
don't
get it near my veg either.

Funny chap, but each to thier own ...

Gravy makes the YP soggy.

Yummy! and only the base, the top is still crisp.

g To each his own:) I don't like soggy bottoms ;-)



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In message , Christina Websell
writes

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:08:35 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

And you do that, do you?

Sounds good to me, we usually have 'Popovers' as my family called them
with a veggie roast dinner.

Chips and gravy in giant yorkshire, now there is something to fill you
up :-)
--
Chris French

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In message , Christina Websell
writes

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Dave Liquorice" wrote

Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

Gravy on a YP, yuk, gravy is on the meat only on my plate. And don't get
it near my veg either.
--
Nice beef gravy all over my YP.. and over my veg too
You have an unusual idea about gravy. what's the prob?


I never used to have gravy when I was a kid, Helen still doesn't, nor
does one of the kids.
--
Chris French

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In message , Bob Hobden
writes
"Bob Hobden" wrote
Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng......
http://www.teranews.com/
It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free.



After a lot of research I've decided to try Teranews at US $3.95 one
off payment and so far it's doing OK.
I shall continue to use NIN for non-binary Ngs.

Presumably, there is some daily download limit on Teranews for that
price?

Typically news servers for binary groups charge a fee for a fixed time,
and/or for a certainly amount of download
--
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In message , Christina Websell
writes

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Stewart Robert Hinsley" wrote
, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
Bob Hobden wrote:
Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access,
turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and
suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to
US$29.99
per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap.

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK

So are Demon. (As of sometime tomorrow, following an announcement
yesterday.)


http://help.demon.net/announcements/...demon-usenet-n
ews-service/


Just changing the subject line.

After a lot of research I've decided to try Teranews at US $3.95 one off
payment and so far it's doing OK.
--
Good luck with Teranews. What made you decide on them? How are they at
removing the spam?

I used to be with NIN, but then my sub lapsed at a time I wasn't reading
newsgroups. I'm currently using Eternal September I think, and I can't
say I'm seeing any spam really on the groups I read anyway (barring the
odd one, now and again)
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I was the guest at a Ladies Masonic Festival Dinner the other night and we
had Yorkshire Puddings with ............ Turkey???

Mike
..................................................
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"Chris French" wrote in message ...

In message , Christina Websell
writes

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:08:35 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

And you do that, do you?

Sounds good to me, we usually have 'Popovers' as my family called them
with a veggie roast dinner.

Chips and gravy in giant yorkshire, now there is something to fill you
up :-)
--
Chris French

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"Ophelia" wrote
g To each his own:) I don't like soggy bottoms ;-)


That is why I can't stand beans on toast, beans with toast lovely.
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
"Ophelia" wrote
g To each his own:) I don't like soggy bottoms ;-)


That is why I can't stand beans on toast, beans with toast lovely.

Amen! Pies too!

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On 03/11/2014 17:39, Bob Hobden wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote
g To each his own:) I don't like soggy bottoms ;-)


That is why I can't stand beans on toast, beans with toast lovely.


So at last we're back to (B)eans (T)oast

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"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
I was the guest at a Ladies Masonic Festival Dinner the other night and we
had Yorkshire Puddings with ............ Turkey???

Mike

And why not? If I have a roast dinner, beef, lamb, chicken, turkey I always
have a YP with it.

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The general consensus of opinion is Yorkshire Pudding with Roast Beef

Mike

..................................................
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...


"'Mike'" wrote in message
...
I was the guest at a Ladies Masonic Festival Dinner the other night and we
had Yorkshire Puddings with ............ Turkey???

Mike

And why not? If I have a roast dinner, beef, lamb, chicken, turkey I always
have a YP with it.

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:10 -0000, "'Mike'"
wrote:

The general consensus of opinion is Yorkshire Pudding with Roast Beef

Mike

Yorkshire Pudding is also very nice spread with honey.

Steve

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"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 20:07:10 -0000, "'Mike'"
wrote:

The general consensus of opinion is Yorkshire Pudding with Roast Beef

Mike

Yorkshire Pudding is also very nice spread with honey.

Steve

No, no and more no.