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Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns
out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK |
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Bob Hobden wrote:
Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. But still more expensive than Eternal September news.eternal-september.org Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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In message , Chris J Dixon
writes Bob Hobden wrote: Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. But still more expensive than Eternal September news.eternal-september.org Chris Well you can't get much cheaper than free. -- bert |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK -------- I have not received such a notification (been a BT customer for 14 years). Can't find anything on MyBT or with a Google search. Maybe yours was a spoof/scam perhaps, have you looked at (right-click) PropertiesDetailsMessage Source? I did receive email from BT today about paying the bill. so they know where to find me :-) Grenou |
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Well - this is the message URL -- http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/d..._FURL_giganews Seems genuine to me. |
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"Peter & Jeanne" wrote in message ... Well - this is the message URL -- http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/d..._FURL_giganews Seems genuine to me. ------ You're right, that has to be genuine. Oh dear, what a pain. I wonder why we haven't been notified, hmm. Thanks for the link, I will now have to make new plans for newsgroup access. Grenou |
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote
Bob Hobden wrote: Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. But still more expensive than Eternal September news.eternal-september.org Yes but NIN is only Euro10 per year. My problem is I do look/post on a binary Ng too and both NIN and ES don't do binaries. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which would be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good service: they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person on the end of the email if you need help. However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros. I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them. https://news.individual.net/ |
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"Christina Websell" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which would be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good service: they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person on the end of the email if you need help. However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros. I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them. https://news.individual.net/ I already use NIN for non-binary Ngs (as well as BT) as they cut out all the rubbish but it's the binary one I'm interested in although it certainly isn't worth paying extra for. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote
"Christina Websell" wrote "Bob Hobden" wrote Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which would be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good service: they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person on the end of the email if you need help. However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros. I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them. https://news.individual.net/ I already use NIN for non-binary Ngs (as well as BT) as they cut out all the rubbish but it's the binary one I'm interested in although it certainly isn't worth paying extra for. Turns out, at least I'm told, Eternal-September carry the binary Ng I'm interested in despite them saying they don't do binary Ngs. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Chris J Dixon" wrote Bob Hobden wrote: Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. But still more expensive than Eternal September news.eternal-september.org Yes but NIN is only Euro10 per year. My problem is I do look/post on a binary Ng too and both NIN and ES don't do binaries. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK The problem with Eternal September is that it is well known as the home of trolls (presumably because it's free?) and some people killfile the whole domain. I used to look at a binary group too, but I gave it up to have NIN. Which is worth every single euro, believe me. I see no spam on newsgroups. No anti-Jew posts, no buy my xxx, nothing because NIN filter it out before I see it and that's worth 10 euros a year itself. I leave it up to you. It's a no-brainer. |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which would be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good service: they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person on the end of the email if you need help. However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros. I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them. https://news.individual.net/ --------- Isn't Plusnet also BT? Thanks for the recommendation :-) Grenou |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 23:11:05 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Chris J Dixon" wrote Bob Hobden wrote: Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. But still more expensive than Eternal September news.eternal-september.org Yes but NIN is only Euro10 per year. My problem is I do look/post on a binary Ng too and both NIN and ES don't do binaries. I use Forte's Agent Usenet USD2.95/month for 20 gigabytes. Forte use Easynews. The retention is up to 10 years https://www.forteinc.com/apn/subscri...%20Gigaby tes -- Martin in Zuid Holland ---- Bedankt Martin ;-) Grenou |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote "Bob Hobden" wrote Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which would be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good service: they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person on the end of the email if you need help. However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros. I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them. https://news.individual.net/ I already use NIN for non-binary Ngs (as well as BT) as they cut out all the rubbish but it's the binary one I'm interested in although it certainly isn't worth paying extra for. -- Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them. |
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Christina Websell wrote:
Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them. Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide binary groups. |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message .. . Christina Websell wrote: Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them. Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide binary groups. Does any UK ISP now? Most don't even provide access to Usenet any more |
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"Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote in message ... "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which would be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good service: they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person on the end of the email if you need help. However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros. I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them. https://news.individual.net/ --------- Isn't Plusnet also BT? Are they? I hope not Thanks for the recommendation :-) Grenou you will never regret using NIN. |
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Christina Websell wrote:
"Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: Isn't Plusnet also BT? Are they? I hope not They have been for years, thankfully you'd never tell if you didn't know ... |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message o.uk... Christina Websell wrote: "Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: Isn't Plusnet also BT? Are they? I hope not They have been for years, thankfully you'd never tell if you didn't know ... so it will be interesting if Plusnet now drop Usenet. Not to worry, I have NIN! |
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Christina Websell wrote:
it will be interesting if Plusnet now drop Usenet. Their friendly rep (Bob Pullen) on usenet says not ... |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message o.uk... Christina Websell wrote: it will be interesting if Plusnet now drop Usenet. Their friendly rep (Bob Pullen) on usenet says not ... I think they will. |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:37:47 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:
Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them. Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide binary groups. Does any UK ISP now? Most don't even provide access to Usenet any more Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s) for mail, news, "home page", WHY? The ISP just provides a connection into the Internet. Everyone can pick and choose the services they require from other providers. Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via an ISP based email address) to your ISP. -- Cheers Dave. |
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[Access to Usenet]
I am accessing usenet, posting on and reading newsgroups since around 1996. Which does not mean a lot, as you can do an arbitrary amount of bungling during your “35 years” of experience in any job. But I have made observations and even got to understanding “technology”. The (declared) ability and (declared) determination of any service to render your experience with their use of a *well-defined technology* more comfortable should not influence your decision to pay them or not. The technology in this case is usenet or the uses of the nntp-protocol, more exactly (anyone still on uucp ? Thanks. Thought so.) I am using several open and free news-services (branching to an arbitrary number of news-servers) simultaneously: open-news-network netfront aioe solani eternal-september Anything which is not open-news-network just adds content in case that the previous cannot. If they work and provide me with news-articles, any one of these services does the *same job*. The fact that some more or less eagerly respond to complaints about their users “spamming” or “trolling” decides about their position in my list but not more. If there still are trollposts to handle, filtering is done by me alone as I deem nobody else capable to decide in my place what I consider spam or trolling. I won't explain all of this in detail, as, in addition, I am not familiar with Windows, these days and wishing to control your own machine appears to become unpopular with today's Internet-users. I only say, that the simple use of free and open news-services creates no problem, nor does it AFAIS and a priori impose constraints for my access to nntp-newsgroups. My former internet access-providers gave me Usenet-access and all have stopped to do so. All of these services were flawed in one way or other. I appreciate, that nowadays, the best Usenet-services are offered by people who really *want* to do the job rather than add Usenet as a gimmick to their produce. I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. ;-) Michael (Kraut-Frog) -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:49:39 +0100,
Martin wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:03:49 +0100, Martin wrote: The current version of Agent and Forte's news server are the current best and cheapest way of accessing binary newsgroups. Maybe I should have said easiest way of downloading from binary groups involving the least effort. Thanks for clarifying. I was about to ask what you wanted to say with that. ;-) I only add to your last statement “, under Windows, and if you are accustomed to such software.” Michael -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:57:50 +0000 (GMT),
Dave Liquorice wrote: Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s) for mail, news, "home page", WHY? The ISP just provides a connection into the Internet. Everyone can pick and choose the services they require from other providers. So far I am becking this. Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via an ISP based email address) to your ISP. But now you do not talk about usenet and would anyway be in trouble getting usenet-access into the context... ;-) Try and prove me wrong... I would be pleased and follow any of your advice on the spot. Michael -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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"Michael Uplawski" wrote in message ki.eu... --I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. ;-) Michael (Kraut-Frog) -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France ---- Heh heh, that's an excellent listing (saved for further consultation). I am building up quite a dossier on this ☺ Grenou Location: West Sussex (mother Frog-father Cheesehead) ! Normandy, Upper or Lower, is great ☺ |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... -- you will never regret using NIN. --- Thanks for the information Christina :-) Grenou |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:02:23 -0000, "Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: Heh heh, that's an excellent listing (saved for further consultation). I am building up quite a dossier on this ? Grenou Location: West Sussex (mother Frog-father Cheesehead) ! Not the original GWB cheese eating surrender monkey? :-) Normandy, Upper or Lower, is great ? -- Martin in Zuid Holland --- Goodness, did I add those question marks? Hmm.. Nope, not a monkey but a KaasKop, a 'pet' name for the Dutch, or it used to be when I lived there (centuries ago) ;-) Grenou |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:04:50 +0100,
Martin wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:09:51 +0100, Michael Uplawski wrote: The current version of Agent and Forte's news server are the current best and cheapest way of accessing binary newsgroups. (...) People use Agent with Linux and Wine But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-) My grandma made the best potato-salad. .... ever. (Not on Youtube) -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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Attention. If you write your responses below the symbol
--[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut of the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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*Attention*. If you write your responses *below* the symbol
--[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut off the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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I'll stay at the top this time..
Thanks for the explanation :-) German was not my best subject at school, but even I can translate all that ;-) Grenou -- "Michael Uplawski" wrote in message ki.eu... Attention. If you write your responses below the symbol --[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut of the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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It's best to stay on top here
Mike .................................................. advert soon, watch this space. "Grenou" wrote in message ... I'll stay at the top this time.. Thanks for the explanation :-) German was not my best subject at school, but even I can translate all that ;-) Grenou -- "Michael Uplawski" wrote in message ki.eu... Attention. If you write your responses below the symbol --[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut of the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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"Michael Uplawski" wrote
[Access to Usenet] I am accessing usenet, posting on and reading newsgroups since around 1996. Which does not mean a lot, as you can do an arbitrary amount of bungling during your “35 years” of experience in any job. But I have made observations and even got to understanding “technology”. The (declared) ability and (declared) determination of any service to render your experience with their use of a *well-defined technology* more comfortable should not influence your decision to pay them or not. The technology in this case is usenet or the uses of the nntp-protocol, more exactly (anyone still on uucp ? Thanks. Thought so.) I am using several open and free news-services (branching to an arbitrary number of news-servers) simultaneously: open-news-network netfront aioe solani eternal-september Anything which is not open-news-network just adds content in case that the previous cannot. If they work and provide me with news-articles, any one of these services does the *same job*. The fact that some more or less eagerly respond to complaints about their users “spamming” or “trolling” decides about their position in my list but not more. If there still are trollposts to handle, filtering is done by me alone as I deem nobody else capable to decide in my place what I consider spam or trolling. I won't explain all of this in detail, as, in addition, I am not familiar with Windows, these days and wishing to control your own machine appears to become unpopular with today's Internet-users. I only say, that the simple use of free and open news-services creates no problem, nor does it AFAIS and a priori impose constraints for my access to nntp-newsgroups. My former internet access-providers gave me Usenet-access and all have stopped to do so. All of these services were flawed in one way or other. I appreciate, that nowadays, the best Usenet-services are offered by people who really *want* to do the job rather than add Usenet as a gimmick to their produce. I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng...... http://www.teranews.com/ It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:19:15 -0000, Janet wrote:
Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s) for mail, news, "home page", WHY? You made me think RIP zetnet and its excellent newsreader (iirc you were one of the zetnuts) Naw, my internet claim to fame is being a Founder Member of Demon Internet. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:13:58 +0100, Michael Uplawski wrote:
Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via an ISP based email address) to your ISP. But now you do not talk about usenet and would anyway be in trouble getting usenet-access into the context... ;-) Access, probably but admin. ie when the usenet service provider needs to contact you a couple of years after you have signed up and you have switched ISP, having "fixed" email address is helpful. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Michael Uplawski" wrote [Access to Usenet] I am accessing usenet, posting on and reading newsgroups since around 1996. Which does not mean a lot, as you can do an arbitrary amount of bungling during your "35 years" of experience in any job. But I have made observations and even got to understanding "technology". The (declared) ability and (declared) determination of any service to render your experience with their use of a *well-defined technology* more comfortable should not influence your decision to pay them or not. The technology in this case is usenet or the uses of the nntp-protocol, more exactly (anyone still on uucp ? Thanks. Thought so.) I am using several open and free news-services (branching to an arbitrary number of news-servers) simultaneously: open-news-network netfront aioe solani eternal-september Anything which is not open-news-network just adds content in case that the previous cannot. If they work and provide me with news-articles, any one of these services does the *same job*. The fact that some more or less eagerly respond to complaints about their users "spamming" or "trolling" decides about their position in my list but not more. If there still are trollposts to handle, filtering is done by me alone as I deem nobody else capable to decide in my place what I consider spam or trolling. I won't explain all of this in detail, as, in addition, I am not familiar with Windows, these days and wishing to control your own machine appears to become unpopular with today's Internet-users. I only say, that the simple use of free and open news-services creates no problem, nor does it AFAIS and a priori impose constraints for my access to nntp-newsgroups. My former internet access-providers gave me Usenet-access and all have stopped to do so. All of these services were flawed in one way or other. I appreciate, that nowadays, the best Usenet-services are offered by people who really *want* to do the job rather than add Usenet as a gimmick to their produce. I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng...... http://www.teranews.com/ It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free. Stop trying to avoid that small amount of 10 euros a year. And use News.individual.net. You'll be glad if you do. Trust me on this. Just bite the bullet and use NIN for Usenet access. |
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"Martin" wrote in message d Wine But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-) Blame the wine. My grandma made the best potato-salad. ... ever. (Not on Youtube) At the tome mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-) -- Martin in Zuid Holland I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the best in the world but it's close. It rises through the next shelf of my oven. |
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On 27/10/2014 17:39, Bob Hobden wrote:
Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access, turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99 per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap. -- Regards Bob Hobden Posting to this Newsgroup from the W.of London. UK So are Demon. (As of sometime tomorrow, following an announcement yesterday.) http://help.demon.net/announcements/...-news-service/ -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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