In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:

Christina Websell wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
Interesting reintroduction planned for specific areas, it's worked in some
other areas of Europe and we certainly need something to control the Deer.

http://www.lynxuk.org/

Absolutely NOT.

Oh, definitely yes.

Prefered prey is deer of which there are far to many in the UK - because
there are no natural predators - causing all sorts of habitat
destruction.

Reintroduction of Lynx is already happening in large parts of Western
Europe and seems to be going fairly well.

Lynx would be a marvellous addition to many ecosystems.

Whatever you think, proposals for the reintroduction of Lynx are in the
pipeline, see:

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...P=share_btn_tw

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 05/05/15 12:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

So let me get this straight - anyone who disagrees with you is
"hysterical" and "ignorant".

How patronising.

On Tue, 05 May 2015 12:30:50 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 05/05/15 12:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

So let me get this straight - anyone who disagrees with you is
"hysterical" and "ignorant".

How patronising.


No, just you.

You're special.

In article ,
Nick Maclaren wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 12:30:50 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 05/05/15 12:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

So let me get this straight - anyone who disagrees with you is
"hysterical" and "ignorant".

How patronising.

No, just you.

You're special.

In case anyone failed to notice, this was a forgery.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 05/05/15 15:38, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Nick Maclaren wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 12:30:50 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 05/05/15 12:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

So let me get this straight - anyone who disagrees with you is
"hysterical" and "ignorant".

How patronising.

No, just you.

You're special.

In case anyone failed to notice, this was a forgery.

The trolls are out in force...

Anyway - I suspect we are doomed to disagree - and whilst you may feel
more qualified, it would be good to accept that other folk may not feel
particularly at ease with the re-introduction of less than fluffy new
animals (or even very old but locally extinct) animals... I claim no
particular qualifications re lynx, bears or wolves, but I do not want
any of them roaming around near me...

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 05/05/15 15:38, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Nick Maclaren wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 12:30:50 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 05/05/15 12:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

So let me get this straight - anyone who disagrees with you is
"hysterical" and "ignorant".

How patronising.

No, just you.

You're special.

In case anyone failed to notice, this was a forgery.

The trolls are out in force...

Anyway - I suspect we are doomed to disagree - and whilst you may feel
more qualified, it would be good to accept that other folk may not feel
particularly at ease with the re-introduction of less than fluffy new
animals (or even very old but locally extinct) animals... I claim no
particular qualifications re lynx, bears or wolves, but I do not want any
of them roaming around near me...

Me neither.

On 05/05/2015 16:02, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2015 15:38:41 +0100 (BST),
(Nick Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Nick Maclaren wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 12:30:50 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 05/05/15 12:02, Nick Maclaren wrote:

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

So let me get this straight - anyone who disagrees with you is
"hysterical" and "ignorant".

How patronising.

No, just you.

You're special.

In case anyone failed to notice, this was a forgery.


It's the troll we had a few months ago. Uses Aioe and postfilter.
Worth checking the headers of all dubious posts for a little while



..
To hell with the Lynx, wolves,bears or otters.
Now the Sabre toothed tiger, that would be a beast to worry about. and
whilst we are at it how about a few Woolly Mammoths roaming the Scottish
glens.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:

Christina Websell wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
Interesting reintroduction planned for specific areas, it's worked
in some
other areas of Europe and we certainly need something to control the
Deer.

http://www.lynxuk.org/

Absolutely NOT.

Oh, definitely yes.

Prefered prey is deer of which there are far to many in the UK - because
there are no natural predators - causing all sorts of habitat
destruction.

Reintroduction of Lynx is already happening in large parts of Western
Europe and seems to be going fairly well.

Lynx would be a marvellous addition to many ecosystems.

Whatever you think, proposals for the reintroduction of Lynx are in the
pipeline, see:

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...P=share_btn_tw

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

Nick Maclaren.

No deer menace in my part of the UK.

Christina Websell wrote:

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:

Christina Websell wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
Interesting reintroduction planned for specific areas, it's worked
in some
other areas of Europe and we certainly need something to control the
Deer.

http://www.lynxuk.org/

Absolutely NOT.

Oh, definitely yes.

Prefered prey is deer of which there are far to many in the UK - because
there are no natural predators - causing all sorts of habitat
destruction.

Reintroduction of Lynx is already happening in large parts of Western
Europe and seems to be going fairly well.

Lynx would be a marvellous addition to many ecosystems.

Whatever you think, proposals for the reintroduction of Lynx are in the
pipeline, see:

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...wilding-britai
n-wildlife-countryside?CMP=share_btn_tw

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to be
in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

Nick Maclaren.

No deer menace in my part of the UK.

There are100,000s of deer across the UK - most people simply never see
them or are aware they are there. Apart from dropping, the failure of
woodlands to regenerate is a clear sign of lots of deer.

Larry

In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:

No deer menace in my part of the UK.

There are100,000s of deer across the UK - most people simply never see
them or are aware they are there. Apart from dropping, the failure of
woodlands to regenerate is a clear sign of lots of deer.

And the absence of most of the woodland herbs, with the butterflies
and other creatures that rely on them. The evidence is clear across
most of the UK for those that have eyes to see.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
says...

There are100,000s of deer across the UK - most people simply never see
them or are aware they are there. Apart from dropping, the failure of
woodlands to regenerate is a clear sign of lots of deer.


The first sign of deer here,is the triangle road sign warning to
tourist drivers (about 200 yards from my house) that red deer are a
hazard on all roads.

In the north of the island they are so numerous it would be very hard
for any road driver to avoid seeing red deer in broad daylight.
Driving there at night is far more hazardous as you won't see them at
all until the headlights light up their eyes. Gardens up there only
survive if surrounded by a 6ft deerfence.

Janet

In article ,
says...
There are100,000s of deer across the UK - most people simply never see
them or are aware they are there. Apart from dropping, the failure of
woodlands to regenerate is a clear sign of lots of deer.

Last night, on the Scottish mainland in Argyll, as we went out of our
B and B at 7pm for dinner, there were three adult red deer grazing
within 20 m of our parked car.

This morning, we drove 12 miles from Lochranza to Brodick in broad
daylight. In the first 9 miles we passed 9 wild red deer.

Janet (Isle of Arran)

"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:

Christina Websell wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
Interesting reintroduction planned for specific areas, it's
worked
in some
other areas of Europe and we certainly need something to control
the
Deer.

http://www.lynxuk.org/

Absolutely NOT.

Oh, definitely yes.

Prefered prey is deer of which there are far to many in the UK -
because
there are no natural predators - causing all sorts of habitat
destruction.

Reintroduction of Lynx is already happening in large parts of Western
Europe and seems to be going fairly well.

Lynx would be a marvellous addition to many ecosystems.

Whatever you think, proposals for the reintroduction of Lynx are in the
pipeline, see:

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...wilding-britai
n-wildlife-countryside?CMP=share_btn_tw

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be
in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

Nick Maclaren.

No deer menace in my part of the UK.

There are100,000s of deer across the UK - most people simply never see
them or are aware they are there. Apart from dropping, the failure of
woodlands to regenerate is a clear sign of lots of deer.

Larry

None here. Except in Bradgate Park. My neighbour claims he once saw a
muntjac in the fields at the bottom of our gardens. No reason to think he's
not telling the truth. I've lived here for 30 years and never seen any deer
near here.

Christina Websell wrote:

"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Larry Stoter wrote:

Christina Websell wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
Interesting reintroduction planned for specific areas, it's
worked
in some
other areas of Europe and we certainly need something to control
the
Deer.

http://www.lynxuk.org/

Absolutely NOT.

Oh, definitely yes.

Prefered prey is deer of which there are far to many in the UK -
because
there are no natural predators - causing all sorts of habitat
destruction.

Reintroduction of Lynx is already happening in large parts of Western
Europe and seems to be going fairly well.

Lynx would be a marvellous addition to many ecosystems.

Whatever you think, proposals for the reintroduction of Lynx are in the
pipeline, see:

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...wilding-britai
n-wildlife-countryside?CMP=share_btn_tw

Unfortunately, due to the hysteria of the ignorant, it is unlikely to
be
in time to save many of the UK's woodland underplants and animals
(including birds and butterflies). I don't expect to live to see the
deer menace (and it IS an ecological menace) alleviated.

Nick Maclaren.

No deer menace in my part of the UK.

There are100,000s of deer across the UK - most people simply never see
them or are aware they are there. Apart from dropping, the failure of
woodlands to regenerate is a clear sign of lots of deer.

Larry

None here. Except in Bradgate Park. My neighbour claims he once saw a
muntjac in the fields at the bottom of our gardens. No reason to think he's
not telling the truth. I've lived here for 30 years and never seen any deer
near here.

In most places, very difficult to see deer - they are shy, generally
active morning/evening and spend most of their time hidden in thick
scrub in woodland.

Larry

In article , says...
In most places, very difficult to see deer - they are shy, generally
active morning/evening and spend most of their time hidden in thick
scrub in woodland.

Larry


Except in those areas where, thanks to deer, there IS no thick
scrub or woodland.. like much of the Scottish Highlands. Where deer are
easily visible *because they have no such cover*.
People wrongly assume that today's barren rocky landscape is what was
always there.

http://treesforlife.org.uk/forest/the-forest/

Janet.