In article , NY wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
That doesn't equate with a vehicle's range with a tankful of petrol
compared to a battery full of leccy. And the battery weighs a lot more
than the petrol.

Bill

no, its fairly close - leccy cars have about 200 miles range and petrol
ones 400 - 600.


200 versus 400-600 is not "fairly close".

Not only do you have to recharge the battery more frequently, but every
time you have to wait many hours, as opposed to 5 mins max when filling
up with 60 litres of diesel. We have often done journeys of more than
200 miles, stopping only for brief loo breaks and maybe change of
driver. If we had to factor in a much longer recharging stop, a journey
of a few hours would turn into one with an overnight stop - or a long
stop at a place of interest along the way.

That, too, is my concern. If life returns to 'normal', I expect to do 2 or
3 long distance journeys each year.

When cars have enough range to do a whole journey on one charging of the
battery, then they'll be a viable replacement. We'll probably never get
anywhere near the recharge rate of 60 litres of diesel (700 miles range)
in 5 minutes, but then that is several MW of power. But if charging
can be confined to overnight when you're not travelling (or 9-5 when
you're in the office) then it's no great hassle. But having to charge
during a journey is a definite disincentive to owning an electric car.

Longer advertised mileage ones appear to be coming, but they seem to mostly
"fashion statements" rather than useful vehicles.

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On Sun, 02 May 2021 12:05:03 +0100, charles wrote:

In article , NY wrote:


Not only do you have to recharge the battery more frequently, but every
time you have to wait many hours, as opposed to 5 mins max when filling
up with 60 litres of diesel. We have often done journeys of more than
200 miles, stopping only for brief loo breaks and maybe change of
driver. If we had to factor in a much longer recharging stop, a journey
of a few hours would turn into one with an overnight stop - or a long
stop at a place of interest along the way.

That, too, is my concern. If life returns to 'normal', I expect to do 2
or 3 long distance journeys each year.

Similar to me. Normally I can do a round trip of just under 600 miles
with a fill of diesel at start and finish of the round trip. With a
loaded trailer behind I can get to the 'return point' and then fill up
for the journey back.

Electric would see me stopping for top ups on each leg plus a proper
charge at the 'return point'. That is *solo* and in good weather without
lights etc.

With the trailer and load it becomes an unimaginable task with frequent
lengthy stops unless..

Longer advertised mileage ones appear to be coming, but they seem to
mostly "fashion statements" rather than useful vehicles.

.... the fashion statements do actually become usable vehicles especially
when towing a load.

I expect that I may wait for a few years more, buy a good diesel and let
that see me out.

Bev wrote:

With the trailer and load it becomes an unimaginable task

Especially as only a select few electric cars are allowed to tow.

On Sun, 02 May 2021 15:21:32 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Bev wrote:

With the trailer and load it becomes an unimaginable task

Especially as only a select few electric cars are allowed to tow.

Indeed - and most have a ridiculously low limit. Ok for a hobby trailer
to the tip but nothing more serious. Some hybrids have better
capabilities but still not as much as I'd like.

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article , NY wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
That doesn't equate with a vehicle's range with a tankful of petrol
compared to a battery full of leccy. And the battery weighs a lot more
than the petrol.

Bill

no, its fairly close - leccy cars have about 200 miles range and petrol
ones 400 - 600.


200 versus 400-600 is not "fairly close".

Not only do you have to recharge the battery more frequently, but every
time you have to wait many hours, as opposed to 5 mins max when filling
up with 60 litres of diesel. We have often done journeys of more than
200 miles, stopping only for brief loo breaks and maybe change of
driver. If we had to factor in a much longer recharging stop, a journey
of a few hours would turn into one with an overnight stop - or a long
stop at a place of interest along the way.

That, too, is my concern. If life returns to 'normal', I expect to do 2 or
3 long distance journeys each year.

Me too, and mostly at night too.

When cars have enough range to do a whole journey on one charging of the
battery, then they'll be a viable replacement. We'll probably never get
anywhere near the recharge rate of 60 litres of diesel (700 miles range)
in 5 minutes, but then that is several MW of power. But if charging
can be confined to overnight when you're not travelling (or 9-5 when
you're in the office) then it's no great hassle. But having to charge
during a journey is a definite disincentive to owning an electric car.

Longer advertised mileage ones appear to be coming, but they seem
to mostly "fashion statements" rather than useful vehicles.

Dunno about that last bit. That’s not really true of the longest range
Tesla,
but its got a stupid price.

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