Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Sharon Fruit
I'm growing a sharon fruit (persimmon sp?) from seed. It has germinated but
looks unwell. I've searched for information on the net to no avail. Has anyone here grown one? I'm interested to know what kind of conditions they thrive in. Dry, wet, hot, cold etc? any ideas? Thankyou Lorraine |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Sharon Fruit
GoldDustRhiannon wrote:
I'm growing a sharon fruit (persimmon sp?) from seed. It has germinated but looks unwell. I've searched for information on the net to no avail. Has anyone here grown one? I'm interested to know what kind of conditions they thrive in. Dry, wet, hot, cold etc? any ideas? Depending on which species you have they 'might' grow over here. (see second article). generally though I get the impression they like heat. Commercially produced in Israel. See 1st article. // Jim -------------------- Persimmons http://www.seedtosupper.com/persimmons.html Sunday, August 17, 2003 Books Persimmons Firm-ripe Persimmons Soft-ripe Persimmons Dehydrated Persimmons Persimmons Progress Persimmons Contents Avocados Cucumbers Melons & Gourds Eggplant Okra Persimmons Summer Squash & Squash Blossoms Tomatillos Winter Squash & Pumpkins Bobbi Jo's Southern Sunday Suppers The Willsknoll Collection Gifts News Links Persimmons (Kaki) (Excerpts from "Persimmons (Kaki) From Seed To Supper") Most of the world calls them kaki; they are caqui in Spanish, or Sharon fruit in Israel. In the United States, we call them persimmons after the Algonquin Indian name for Diospyros virginiana, the native american persimmon or Possum Persimmon. The genus name, Diospyros, means "food for the gods". Once you get to know persimmons, you will agree they are indeed food for the gods. The genus Diospyros has three species of importance to the home gardener, kaki, virginiana and digyna. DIOSPYROS kaki is an oval shaped tree that grows to 20 to 25 feet tall and 20 to 30 feet wide. Its most common varieties a CALIFORNIA FUYU (Oku Gosho?): Medium, round with a slight point, orange to deep red-orange color, sporadic male blossoms, often seedy, non-astringent, firm-ripe. CHOCOLATE: Small reddish-orange, flesh is streaked with brown when cross pollinated, soft-ripe. FUYU: Medium, oval like a flattened apple or tomato, pale orange to deep red-orange color, non-astringent, firm-ripe. GIANT FUYU (Jumbu or Hana Fuyu): Large somewhat irregular tapered shape, ripens quickly, very sweet, pale orange to deep red-orange color, non-astringent, firm-ripe. HACHIYA: Large, acorn-shaped persimmon, deep orange-red color, soft-ripe. JIRO: Very similar and often confused with fuyu, squarish and truncated, pale orange to deep red-orange color, non-astringent, firm-ripe. TAMOPAN: Large, irregularly globed rounded, deep orange-red color, soft-ripe. TANENASHI: Medium, cone-shaped, yellow-orange, early ripening, seed-less, more widely grown in the south eastern United States, soft-ripe. DIOSPYROS virginiana is a cone shaped tree that grows to 35 to 60 feet tall and 20 to 30 feet wide. Its most common varieties a EARLY GOLDEN: Small round deep orange color, soft-ripe. GARRETTSON: Small round deep orange color, soft-ripe. KILLEN: Small round deep orange color, soft-ripe. DIOSPYROS digyna: The black sapote, chocolate brown color, thin skinned, soft-ripe. The genus diospyros also includes: DIOSPYROS texana or Black Persimmon, an American native found in Texas. DIOSPYROS lotus or Chinese date plum, small 1-inch dark brown fruit commonly used as root stock with it's many branching roots. There is a compatibility problem between fuyu and D. lotus. DIOSPYROS discolor: mabolo or velvet apple of Malaysia. Nutritional Breakdown Persimmon - One medium-size raw 118 Calories, 134.9g Water, 0.3g Fat, 168g Weight, 1.0g Protein, 31.2g Carbohydrate 13mg Vit.C, .03mg Vit.B-2, 13mcg. Folate, 3640 IU Vit.A, 0.5mg Vit.B-1, 0.2mg Niacin, 3mg Sodium, 13mg Calcium, 15mg Magnesium, .18mg Zinc,.596mg Manganese 270mg Potassium, 28mg Phosphorus, .26mg Iron, .190mg Copper. Persimmon - One medium-size dried 93 Calories, 7.8g Water, 0.2g Fat, 34g Weight, 0.5g Protein, 25g Carbohydrate 0mg Vit.C, .01mg Vit.B-2, 190 IU Vit.A, 0 Vit.B-1, 0.1mg Niacin, 1mg Sodium, 8mg Calcium, 11mg Magnesium, ..14mg Zinc, .473 mg Manganese, 273mg Potassium, 27mg Phosphorus, .25mg Iron, .150mg Copper. Permanent Publications - Plant Profiles - Part 1 http://www.permaculture.co.uk/mag/Ar...ile_Part1.html Sunday, August 17, 2003 LATE AUTUMN One of our last crops of the year comes from the AMERICAN PERSIMMON, Diospyros virginiana (see Fig.3) Fig 3. AMERICAN PERSIMMON, Diospyros virginianaand the DATE PLUM, D. lotus. These two deciduous trees, which grow up to 10 metres tall and 8 metres wide, produce some of the most delicious fruits I have ever eaten from plants growing in Britain. They are related to the PERSIMMON or SHARON FRUIT that is sometimes seen in greengrocers and their fruits are very similar in shape but much smaller, ranging in size from a cherry to a small crab apple. It is important that you only eat the fruit when it is absolutely ripe and squidgy soft, before that it will be astringent and have an extremely unpleasant effect on your mouth. Fully ripe, it tastes somewhat like a rich apricot jelly (my wife says that I should just call it ambrosia). Plants do require a good summer in order to ripen their fruit properly so they grow better in the south-east of Britain where the yield is normally very good. The fruit tastes nicer after a frost and ripens over several weeks from October until December. If picked when still firm in November it will often store for two months or more. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Sharon Fruit
The ones I've had experience with liked warmer weather and a pH of around 6.
These were wild and came up all over the place. I believe I have seen some that were cold hardy listed in some of the catalogs, but wasn't really interested so I didn't pay that much attention. Dwayne "GoldDustRhiannon" wrote in message ... I'm growing a sharon fruit (persimmon sp?) from seed. It has germinated but looks unwell. I've searched for information on the net to no avail. Has anyone here grown one? I'm interested to know what kind of conditions they thrive in. Dry, wet, hot, cold etc? any ideas? Thankyou Lorraine |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Sharon Fruit
The ones I've had experience with liked warmer weather and a pH of around 6.
These were wild and came up all over the place. I believe I have seen some that were cold hardy listed in some of the catalogs, but wasn't really interested so I didn't pay that much attention. Dwayne "GoldDustRhiannon" wrote in message ... I'm growing a sharon fruit (persimmon sp?) from seed. It has germinated but looks unwell. I've searched for information on the net to no avail. Has anyone here grown one? I'm interested to know what kind of conditions they thrive in. Dry, wet, hot, cold etc? any ideas? Thankyou Lorraine |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Sharon Fruit
The ones I've had experience with liked warmer weather and a pH of around 6.
These were wild and came up all over the place. I believe I have seen some that were cold hardy listed in some of the catalogs, but wasn't really interested so I didn't pay that much attention. Dwayne "GoldDustRhiannon" wrote in message ... I'm growing a sharon fruit (persimmon sp?) from seed. It has germinated but looks unwell. I've searched for information on the net to no avail. Has anyone here grown one? I'm interested to know what kind of conditions they thrive in. Dry, wet, hot, cold etc? any ideas? Thankyou Lorraine |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Sharon Fruit
The ones I've had experience with liked warmer weather and a pH of around 6.
These were wild and came up all over the place. I believe I have seen some that were cold hardy listed in some of the catalogs, but wasn't really interested so I didn't pay that much attention. Dwayne "GoldDustRhiannon" wrote in message ... I'm growing a sharon fruit (persimmon sp?) from seed. It has germinated but looks unwell. I've searched for information on the net to no avail. Has anyone here grown one? I'm interested to know what kind of conditions they thrive in. Dry, wet, hot, cold etc? any ideas? Thankyou Lorraine |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
sharon fruit | United Kingdom | |||
[IBC] ??Rose of Sharon (Hibiscus) good for bonsai??? | Bonsai | |||
Pruning Rose of Sharon? | Gardening | |||
Rose of Sharon | Roses | |||
Double Rose of Sharon (peach or apricot) | Gardening |