On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use peat why is this?

"anita" wrote in message
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On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use peat why
is this?
--
anita

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

Cheers
Dave R

Why (the hell) can they sell it still?
I had no idea it was that serious
They should ban it,

David W.E. Roberts wrote:
"anita" wrote in message
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On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use
peat
why is this?
--
anita

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction

........ Strictly speaking, it was extinct before it was excavated.
;-)

.........by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

There is no denying that.
However, ..... in some specific areas where they are trying to
re-introduce wetlands (creating one environment at the expense of
another), it is necessary to skim off the higher exposed layers of
peat and so a certain amount is still being commercially 'harvested'
under strict controls and licences. It's an ecological juggling act.
Each side has its supporters and its objectors.
Cue for uninformed debate. ;-)

--
ned

"anita" wrote in message
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Why (the hell) can they sell it still?
I had no idea it was that serious
They should ban it,

I am afraid there is too much capital and people tied up in the operations.
Think of all those poor folk, some of whom will lose their jobs and others
who will lose their fat profits.

Franz

"ned" wrote in message
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use
peat
why is this?
--
anita

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction

....... Strictly speaking, it was extinct before it was excavated.
;-)

.........by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

There is no denying that.
However, ..... in some specific areas where they are trying to
re-introduce wetlands (creating one environment at the expense of
another), it is necessary to skim off the higher exposed layers of
peat and so a certain amount is still being commercially 'harvested'
under strict controls and licences. It's an ecological juggling act.

In which the extractors hold all the trump cards, if one may be said to do
an ecological juggle with cards.

Franz

In other words were dammed if we do
and were dammed if we don't

Franz Heymann wrote:
"ned" wrote in message
...
David W.E. Roberts wrote:
"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use
peat
why is this?
--
anita

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if
not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction

....... Strictly speaking, it was extinct before it was excavated.
;-)

.........by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

There is no denying that.
However, ..... in some specific areas where they are trying to
re-introduce wetlands (creating one environment at the expense of
another), it is necessary to skim off the higher exposed layers of
peat and so a certain amount is still being commercially
'harvested'
under strict controls and licences. It's an ecological juggling
act.

In which the extractors hold all the trump cards, if one may be said
to do an ecological juggle with cards.

......"under strict controls and licences"

--
ned

In article , David W.E.
Roberts writes

"anita" wrote in message
ws.com...
On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use peat why
is this?

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

In all fairness, the amount of peat used by gardeners is minuscule when
you consider the amount burned in peat fired power stations.
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

"anita" wrote in message
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Franz Heymann wrote:
*"ned" wrote in message
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
"anita" wrote in message


s.com...
On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or
use
peat
why is this?
--
anita

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if
not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction

....... Strictly speaking, it was extinct before it was excavated.
;-)

.........by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

There is no denying that.
However, ..... in some specific areas where they are trying to
re-introduce wetlands (creating one environment at the expense of
another), it is necessary to skim off the higher exposed layers of
peat and so a certain amount is still being commercially
'harvested'
under strict controls and licences. It's an ecological juggling
act.

In which the extractors hold all the trump cards, if one may be said
to do
an ecological juggle with cards.

Franz *


In other words were dammed if we do
and were dammed if we don't

More or less, yes.

Franz

"ned" wrote in message
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Franz Heymann wrote:
"ned" wrote in message
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
"anita" wrote in message
s.com...
On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use
peat
why is this?
--
anita

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if
not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction

....... Strictly speaking, it was extinct before it was excavated.
;-)

.........by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

There is no denying that.
However, ..... in some specific areas where they are trying to
re-introduce wetlands (creating one environment at the expense of
another), it is necessary to skim off the higher exposed layers of
peat and so a certain amount is still being commercially
'harvested'
under strict controls and licences. It's an ecological juggling
act.

In which the extractors hold all the trump cards, if one may be said
to do an ecological juggle with cards.

....."under strict controls and licences"

Yes. The sops to Cerberus.
Bugger the controls and licences. If you can destroy in one year what
nature took millennia to produce, there is something quite seriously wrong.

Franz

"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
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In article , David W.E.
Roberts writes

"anita" wrote in message
ws.com...
On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use peat
why
is this?

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

In all fairness, the amount of peat used by gardeners is minuscule when
you consider the amount burned in peat fired power stations.

Are there any in the UK?

Franz

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:168870

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:33:49 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
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In article , David W.E.
Roberts writes

"anita" wrote in message
ws.com...
On a lot of garden programs they all say they don't like or use peat
why
is this?

Because the peat takes a long time to create (many centuries if not
millenia) and it is being excavated to extinction by commercial users.
This destroys a major natural habitat.

In all fairness, the amount of peat used by gardeners is minuscule when
you consider the amount burned in peat fired power stations.

Are there any in the UK?

There were lots in North Germany.
--
Martin

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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

In all fairness, the amount of peat used by gardeners is minuscule when
you consider the amount burned in peat fired power stations.

Are there any in the UK?

Dunno, but there are in Eire.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
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In all fairness, the amount of peat used by gardeners is minuscule
when
you consider the amount burned in peat fired power stations.

Are there any in the UK?

Dunno, but there are in Eire.

I realised that. I reckon there are none in the UK, though.

Franz