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Hi all
Its mushroom season here in Brittany and over the last few days a nice large Fairy ring (one of several) has developed in the lawn. http://members.aol.com/penphill/ring1.jpg I don't mind it all that much but the grass has already suffered from this years drought. Does anyone know if the mycaelium inside the ring, which is about 7m across does any damage to the grass above it. I read that such rings continue to steadily grow for years...... Phil |
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I doubt your fairy ring is damaging your lawn. It is so extensive that you
would have noticed the damage by now during an earlier stage of its growth. Some fungi even seem to feed the lawn - the ring area is greener than the rest of the lawn. However, your fungi are larger than those I've seen in my lawn, so I would advise removing them by hand. As far as I'm aware, there is no preparation you can use to remove/kill fungi these days .. perhaps someone else can help there. Fungi aside, it's certainly worth treating your lawn to a scarifying/aerating/feeding regime. IF the fungi were capable of weakening your lawn, good health would give it a fair chance of fighting back. Spider Pen Phill wrote in message ... Hi all Its mushroom season here in Brittany and over the last few days a nice large Fairy ring (one of several) has developed in the lawn. http://members.aol.com/penphill/ring1.jpg I don't mind it all that much but the grass has already suffered from this years drought. Does anyone know if the mycaelium inside the ring, which is about 7m across does any damage to the grass above it. I read that such rings continue to steadily grow for years...... Phil |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:25:55 +0100, Spider wrote:
Fungi aside, it's certainly worth treating your lawn to a scarifying/aerating/feeding regime. IF the fungi were capable of weakening your lawn, good health would give it a fair chance of fighting back. And then you can enjoy a nice lawn and fresh mushrooms for breakfast. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:48:54 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:25:55 +0100, Spider wrote: Fungi aside, it's certainly worth treating your lawn to a scarifying/aerating/feeding regime. IF the fungi were capable of weakening your lawn, good health would give it a fair chance of fighting back. And then you can enjoy a nice lawn and fresh mushrooms for breakfast. and psychedelic dreams with hot buttered toast -- Martin |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:52:52 +0200, martin wrote:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:48:54 GMT, Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:25:55 +0100, Spider wrote: Fungi aside, it's certainly worth treating your lawn to a scarifying/aerating/feeding regime. IF the fungi were capable of weakening your lawn, good health would give it a fair chance of fighting back. And then you can enjoy a nice lawn and fresh mushrooms for breakfast. and psychedelic dreams with hot buttered toast They looked a bit like field mushrooms to me - but one can live in hope ;-) -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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"Pen Phill" wrote in message ... Hi all Its mushroom season here in Brittany and over the last few days a nice large Fairy ring (one of several) has developed in the lawn. http://members.aol.com/penphill/ring1.jpg I don't mind it all that much but the grass has already suffered from this years drought. Does anyone know if the mycaelium inside the ring, which is about 7m across does any damage to the grass above it. I read that such rings continue to steadily grow for years...... Consider yourself lucky, because Fairy Ring is an eminently edible mushroom. Since there is at least one non-edible species which has the same growth habit, please do check and make absolutely certain that your soecimens are true Fairy Rings befoere eating them. There will quite certainly be folk in your neighborhood who will know for certain what you have on your lawn. Franz |
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And then you can enjoy a nice lawn and fresh mushrooms for breakfast. and psychedelic dreams with hot buttered toast They looked a bit like field mushrooms to me - but one can live in hope ;-) Fairy ring mushrooms don't have any mind-altering effect. We've had some with our dinner tonight. Mary -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:32:25 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: And then you can enjoy a nice lawn and fresh mushrooms for breakfast. and psychedelic dreams with hot buttered toast They looked a bit like field mushrooms to me - but one can live in hope ;-) Fairy ring mushrooms don't have any mind-altering effect. We've had some with our dinner tonight. :-) -- Martin |
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Thanks for all the replies regarding my Fairy ring and possible damage to the
grass. Glad to know it will be unaffected. Over here they are called "Rosée de Pré" (Meadow dew" in English) and are now quiety being digested with an omelette! There are still a few more to go at.... Phil |
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On 09 Oct 2003 21:46:33 GMT, Pen Phill wrote:
Thanks for all the replies regarding my Fairy ring and possible damage to the grass. Glad to know it will be unaffected. Over here they are called "Rosée de Pré" (Meadow dew" in English) and are now quiety being digested with an omelette! There are still a few more to go at.... Phil Edible mushrooms and puffballs are one of the things I certainly wouldn't mind having in my lawn. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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"Pen Phill" wrote in message ... Thanks for all the replies regarding my Fairy ring and possible damage to the grass. Glad to know it will be unaffected. Over here they are called "Rosée de Pré" (Meadow dew" in English) and are now quiety being digested with an omelette! There are still a few more to go at.... The next thing you will want to know is how to feed them so as to maximise the crop. Franz |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:55:20 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:
"Pen Phill" wrote in message ... Thanks for all the replies regarding my Fairy ring and possible damage to the grass. Glad to know it will be unaffected. Over here they are called "Rosée de Pré" (Meadow dew" in English) and are now quiety being digested with an omelette! There are still a few more to go at.... The next thing you will want to know is how to feed them so as to maximise the crop. :-) The gardener's disease. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: Since there is at least one non-edible species which has the same growth habit, please do check and make absolutely certain that your soecimens are true Fairy Rings befoere eating them. There will quite certainly be folk in your neighborhood who will know for certain what you have on your lawn. Did you look at the picture? Agaricus campestris or A. arvensis I'd say - certainly not Merasmius oreades. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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-- Edible mushrooms and puffballs are one of the things I certainly wouldn't mind having in my lawn. Perhaps I should have a lawn ... Mary -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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Subject: Fairy Rings
From: Jaques d'Altrades Date: 10/10/03 00:20 Romance Daylight Time Message-id: The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: Since there is at least one non-edible species which has the same growth habit, please do check and make absolutely certain that your soecimens are true Fairy Rings befoere eating them. There will quite certainly be folk in your neighborhood who will know for certain what you have on your lawn. Did you look at the picture? Agaricus campestris or A. arvensis I'd say - certainly not Merasmius oreades. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm I think I will look that up. Looks a nice long Latin name! They were certainly tasty whatever their name. I don't know about maximising the crop as they seem to be COMMON here. I took some of mine over to my neighbour to check they were OK as suggested and they were even growing on the grass verge where I was standing! Another friend collected 7 kilos is as many minutes from a nearby field. The French though are VERY au fait with the different fungi though. I have a very pretty red one growing in the lawn as well...got white spots on................... Phil |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Edible mushrooms and puffballs are one of the things I certainly wouldn't mind having in my lawn. Perhaps I should have a lawn ... Or a cellar full of boxes..... When I were lad us air-raid shelter were full of mushrooms, 'appen. -- Grim Reaper Oh thou! Whatever title suit thee, Auld Hornie, Satan, Nick, or Clootie. (Burns) |
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The message
from iljunk (Pen Phill) contains these words: Did you look at the picture? Agaricus campestris or A. arvensis I'd say - certainly not Merasmius oreades. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm I think I will look that up. Looks a nice long Latin name! They were certainly tasty whatever their name. I don't know about maximising the crop as they seem to be COMMON here. I took some of mine over to my neighbour to check they were OK as suggested and they were even growing on the grass verge where I was standing! Another friend collected 7 kilos is as many minutes from a nearby field. The French though are VERY au fait with the different fungi though. You can salt the young caps, or preserve them in oil. Your neighbours would show you how. I have a very pretty red one growing in the lawn as well...got white spots on................... Unlikely. Amanite muscaria grows in and on the margins/clearings of woodland. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:36:31 +0100, R. McGeddon
wrote: The message from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Edible mushrooms and puffballs are one of the things I certainly wouldn't mind having in my lawn. Perhaps I should have a lawn ... Or a cellar full of boxes..... When I were lad us air-raid shelter were full of mushrooms, 'appen. trench foot or what? :-) -- Martin |
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From: Jaques d'Altrades Date: 11/10/03 18:43 Romance Daylight Time Message-id: The message from iljunk (Pen Phill) contains these words: Did you look at the picture? Agaricus campestris or A. arvensis I'd say - certainly not Merasmius oreades. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm I think I will look that up. Looks a nice long Latin name! They were certainly tasty whatever their name. I don't know about maximising the crop as they seem to be COMMON here. I took some of mine over to my neighbour to check they were OK as suggested and they were even growing on the grass verge where I was standing! (bit snipped) I have a very pretty red one growing in the lawn as well...got white spots on................... Unlikely. Amanite muscaria grows in and on the margins/clearings of woodland. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm No...Really.......I have..... Look... http://pageperso.aol.fr/Penphill/FA.jpg |
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Perhaps I should have a lawn ... Or a cellar full of boxes..... Would that I had a cellar ... When I were lad us air-raid shelter were full of mushrooms, 'appen. Aye ... I remember it well ... Mary -- Grim Reaper Oh thou! Whatever title suit thee, Auld Hornie, Satan, Nick, or Clootie. (Burns) |
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from iljunk (Pen Phill) contains these words: Unlikely. Amanite muscaria grows in and on the margins/clearings of woodland. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm No...Really.......I have..... Look... Coo yes - Amanita muscaria without a doubt. It was this mushroom the Norsemen took before going berserk. It is hallucogenic, and overuse can lead to madness, and an overdose can be fatal. I've never tried it and I have no intention of doing so, but it is said that after peeling it is safe to eat, which is probably where the old wives' tale of peeling as a test for edibility. (Amanita phalloides, A. verna and A. virosa all peel, and they are amongst the most deadly mushrooms known.) -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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Coo yes - Amanita muscaria without a doubt. It was this mushroom the Norsemen took before going berserk. Evidence? Mary |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Coo yes - Amanita muscaria without a doubt. It was this mushroom the Norsemen took before going berserk. Evidence? Learned tomes on the subject. Dr. John Ramsbottom (Onetime Curator of Dept. of Mycology, British Museum of Natural History) refers to it, though cautiously, in Mushrooms and Toadstools in Collins' New Naturalist series. I have about twenty mycological books and I'm not trawling through the rest to find references. I haven't visited the Shed yet, and it's nearly nine already! -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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On 10 Oct 2003 17:49:11 GMT, Pen Phill wrote:
French though are VERY au fait with the different fungi though. The Austrians too. I think it's more a case that the Brits are not "au fait" with mushrooms. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:23:08 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote: On 10 Oct 2003 17:49:11 GMT, Pen Phill wrote: French though are VERY au fait with the different fungi though. The Austrians too. Not forgetting the Italians I think it's more a case that the Brits are not "au fait" with mushrooms. Some Brits are, the others die. -- Martin |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:35:52 +0200, martin wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:23:08 GMT, Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote: On 10 Oct 2003 17:49:11 GMT, Pen Phill wrote: French though are VERY au fait with the different fungi though. The Austrians too. Not forgetting the Italians I think it's more a case that the Brits are not "au fait" with mushrooms. Some Brits are, the others die. :-) Like the two sorts of pedestrians: the quick and the dead. Come a damp day after a warm period in late summer here and you'll see loads of people out in the woods collecting baskets of "Schwammerl". I don't recall ever seeing anything like that in the UK. I'm sure some do, but nowhere near the scale it happens over here. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains these words: Come a damp day after a warm period in late summer here and you'll see loads of people out in the woods collecting baskets of "Schwammerl". I don't recall ever seeing anything like that in the UK. I'm sure some do, but nowhere near the scale it happens over here. No. A long time ago I had to physically defend my basket of mushrooms from some concerned woman who 'knew' that they were toadstools, and therefore poisonous. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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Coo yes - Amanita muscaria without a doubt. It was this mushroom the Norsemen took before going berserk. Evidence? Learned tomes on the subject. Dr. John Ramsbottom (Onetime Curator of Dept. of Mycology, British Museum of Natural History) refers to it, though cautiously, in Mushrooms and Toadstools in Collins' New Naturalist series. Was Ramsbottom there then? Mary |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:46:02 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote:
The message m from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains these words: Come a damp day after a warm period in late summer here and you'll see loads of people out in the woods collecting baskets of "Schwammerl". I don't recall ever seeing anything like that in the UK. I'm sure some do, but nowhere near the scale it happens over here. No. A long time ago I had to physically defend my basket of mushrooms from some concerned woman who 'knew' that they were toadstools, and therefore poisonous. The only edible fungus that grows in the UK is the supermarket champignon. Everything else is deadly poisonous. I thought everyone knew that? -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:16:39 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:46:02 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: The message m from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains these words: Come a damp day after a warm period in late summer here and you'll see loads of people out in the woods collecting baskets of "Schwammerl". I don't recall ever seeing anything like that in the UK. I'm sure some do, but nowhere near the scale it happens over here. No. A long time ago I had to physically defend my basket of mushrooms from some concerned woman who 'knew' that they were toadstools, and therefore poisonous. The only edible fungus that grows in the UK is the supermarket champignon. Everything else is deadly poisonous. I thought everyone knew that? You are just trying to keep all the others to yourself :-) -- Martin |
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The only edible fungus that grows in the UK is the supermarket champignon. Everything else is deadly poisonous. I thought everyone knew that? :-))))) Mary -- Tim. |
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Coo yes - Amanita muscaria without a doubt. It was this mushroom the Norsemen took before going berserk. Evidence? Learned tomes on the subject. Dr. John Ramsbottom (Onetime Curator of Dept. of Mycology, British Museum of Natural History) refers to it, though cautiously, in Mushrooms and Toadstools in Collins' New Naturalist series. Was Ramsbottom there then? Probably. I got the book (my request) as a school prize for best 'o'-level results. Now, my beard is white and my hair is - er - sparse, and I remember seeing a doodle-bug being shot down. Rasbottom would have been considerably older..... -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains these words: No. A long time ago I had to physically defend my basket of mushrooms from some concerned woman who 'knew' that they were toadstools, and therefore poisonous. The only edible fungus that grows in the UK is the supermarket champignon. Everything else is deadly poisonous. I thought everyone knew that? B far: some people eat yeast products. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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Was Ramsbottom there then? Probably. I got the book (my request) as a school prize for best 'o'-level results. Now, my beard is white and my hair is - er - sparse, and I remember seeing a doodle-bug being shot down. Rasbottom would have been considerably older..... My beard isn't white, my hair isn't sparse and I don't remember seeing a doodlebug being shot down. Even so I reckon that you and I must be about the samew vintage - i.e. pre war. But I have researched viking life quite seriously and from time to time live it. None of us uses anything other than mead or ale for mind enhancing properties - nor have I heard of such a thing as that foreign name you used .... Mary |
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The only edible fungus that grows in the UK is the supermarket champignon. Everything else is deadly poisonous. I thought everyone knew that? B far: some people eat yeast products. Hmm Some folk ... Mary |
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In article , Mary Fisher
writes Was Ramsbottom there then? Probably. I got the book (my request) as a school prize for best 'o'-level results. Now, my beard is white and my hair is - er - sparse, and I remember seeing a doodle-bug being shot down. Rasbottom would have been considerably older..... My beard isn't white, my hair isn't sparse and I don't remember seeing a doodlebug being shot down. Even so I reckon that you and I must be about the samew vintage - i.e. pre war. But I have researched viking life quite seriously and from time to time live it. None of us uses anything other than mead or ale for mind enhancing properties - nor have I heard of such a thing as that foreign name you used ... I have read about the Lapps using Amanita muscaria to gather in their reindeer. The reindeer apparently get high on it in a literal sense too - they leap high in the air, thought to be the origin of the Santa Claus reindeer. Have you come across that one in your researches? -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Mary Fisher writes Was Ramsbottom there then? Probably. I got the book (my request) as a school prize for best 'o'-level results. Now, my beard is white and my hair is - er - sparse, and I remember seeing a doodle-bug being shot down. Rasbottom would have been considerably older..... My beard isn't white, my hair isn't sparse and I don't remember seeing a doodlebug being shot down. Even so I reckon that you and I must be about the samew vintage - i.e. pre war. But I have researched viking life quite seriously and from time to time live it. None of us uses anything other than mead or ale for mind enhancing properties - nor have I heard of such a thing as that foreign name you used ... I have read about the Lapps using Amanita muscaria to gather in their reindeer. The reindeer apparently get high on it in a literal sense too - they leap high in the air, thought to be the origin of the Santa Claus reindeer. Have you come across that one in your researches? Oh yes, but that doesn't mean that the vikings used it ... :-) Mary -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:44:38 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote:
The message m from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains these words: No. A long time ago I had to physically defend my basket of mushrooms from some concerned woman who 'knew' that they were toadstools, and therefore poisonous. The only edible fungus that grows in the UK is the supermarket champignon. Everything else is deadly poisonous. I thought everyone knew that? B far: some people eat yeast products. I normally drink yeast products. Quite often far too much. -- Tim. If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:47:04 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:44:38 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: The message m from Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" contains these words: No. A long time ago I had to physically defend my basket of mushrooms from some concerned woman who 'knew' that they were toadstools, and therefore poisonous. The only edible fungus that grows in the UK is the supermarket champignon. Everything else is deadly poisonous. I thought everyone knew that? B far: some people eat yeast products. I normally drink yeast products. Quite often far too much. and eat chip butties? -- Martin |
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