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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:40:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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And the whole exercise ends up by being a big footshooting. Soon after the
first case of this kind comes to court, there will be anti-spamming
legislation. Then the spammer has really become irrelevant.

Antispam legislation has already been enacted and comes into force this
year, on or about the 10th of December.

However - it might not be easy to enforce............
.... for messages originating from outside the EU.
Have you got a link to the relevant UK legislation?
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:48:48 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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I can tell just from the headers and senders.....

I think I told you that 4 weeks ago. I even provided you with
examples.
Incidentally to get spam that slipped through down to 2 or 3 messages
a week it took more than 300 filters with Lotus Notes and I had to
regularly add new filters.

Bloody hell! You think that was news?

It appeared to be to you, you denied it was possible.

I've been on the net just about as
long as e-spam has been around. I've had one in my mailbox this week. I
haven't counted the filters, but *@msn.* would kill around a quarter of
them.

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It wouldn't be virii anyway, would it? That'd be the plural of virius.

4th declension noun would be virii.

Can't remember what the 4th declension is. But isn't -us ending normally
1st declension?

I can't remember what viri
translates as

men?

(and I've lost my huge Latin dictionary) but it isn't the
plural of virus.

It wouldn't be unusual for the same latin word to mean several things -
remember the haunting refrain in Britten's Turn of the Screw? -

Malo - I would rather be
Malo - in an apple tree
Malo - than a naughty boy
Malo - in adversity


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In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
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I *COULD* bother one of Zetnet's directors and ask him for a(nother)
full explanation,

Of what virii translates as? {:-))

Yes. He sometimes chips in to a thread in a Zetgroup and gives someone a
lecture on the word.......

OED "virus pl viruses"
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"martin" wrote
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

And the whole exercise ends up by being a big footshooting. Soon after the
first case of this kind comes to court, there will be anti-spamming
legislation. Then the spammer has really become irrelevant.

Antispam legislation has already been enacted and comes into force this
year, on or about the 10th of December.

However - it might not be easy to enforce............
... for messages originating from outside the EU.
Have you got a link to the relevant UK legislation?
--
Martin

My provider chello has made a start by banning ALL email from blueyonder !!!!!!
This is maybe a tad overenthusiastic. I'd also like to hear about pending
legislation.
Jenny

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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:56:00 +0000, Kay Easton
wrote:

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

I *COULD* bother one of Zetnet's directors and ask him for a(nother)
full explanation,

Of what virii translates as? {:-))

Yes. He sometimes chips in to a thread in a Zetgroup and gives someone a
lecture on the word.......

OED "virus pl viruses"

If I hadn't got Win XP I could check that :-((
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Kay Easton wrote:

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

It wouldn't be virii anyway, would it? That'd be the plural of virius.

4th declension noun would be virii.

Can't remember what the 4th declension is. But isn't -us ending normally
1st declension?

I can't remember what viri
translates as

men?

(and I've lost my huge Latin dictionary) but it isn't the
plural of virus.

It wouldn't be unusual for the same latin word to mean several things

I've just read the above. If this helps...

vir (2nd Declension) = man (as opposed to woman). Plural = viri.

virus (2nd Declension, but Neuter gender) was probably never used in
the plural. Certainly was not virii.

I would strongly encourage the Anglicised plural ie viruses.

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Ian Wolfe.
Linlithgow. Birthplace of Mary, Queen of Scots.
Blessed are the peacemakers.

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from Kay Easton contains these words:

Can't remember what the 4th declension is. But isn't -us ending normally
1st declension?

Yes, and the fourth.

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OED "virus pl viruses"

Yes - anglicised, and in the context of virus the living organism and by
association, virus the destructive self-replicating computer program.

However, the OED is not an authority to consult on matters of Latin
grammar. (Nor, as certain Urglers have pointed out, on botanic
accuracy.)

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I would strongly encourage the Anglicised plural ie viruses.

Seconded. As would our Latin scholar within Zetnet. Innit.

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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:

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from Kay Easton contains these words:

Can't remember what the 4th declension is. But isn't -us ending normally
1st declension?

Yes, and the fourth.

Er, no. The 2nd and the 4th. The normal 1st ending is -a.
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:30:39 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

OED "virus pl viruses"

Yes - anglicised, and in the context of virus the living organism and by
association, virus the destructive self-replicating computer program.

However, the OED is not an authority to consult on matters of Latin
grammar. (Nor, as certain Urglers have pointed out, on botanic
accuracy.)

Nor the Win95 CD OED with a WinXP OS :-((
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

OED "virus pl viruses"

Yes - anglicised, and in the context of virus the living organism and by
association, virus the destructive self-replicating computer program.

However, the OED is not an authority to consult on matters of Latin
grammar.

I think I was the first to muddy the waters here. I know no Latin worth
spitting on, and when I used the word "virus" I meant the English word. I
am now happy that the plural is "viruses".
Perhaps we have now all had our money's worth?

Franz

Franz

(Nor, as certain Urglers have pointed out, on botanic
accuracy.)

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The message
from martin contains these words:

However, the OED is not an authority to consult on matters of Latin
grammar. (Nor, as certain Urglers have pointed out, on botanic
accuracy.)

Nor the Win95 CD OED with a WinXP OS :-((

Which is why I shall never be 'upgrading' to XP. I'm not concerned that
support for 98 etc will be discontinued - I've never used it anyway.

Soon, a promised O'Reilly CD book should drop through my litterbox
(amongst the lbooyd flats end hard spam!) and I can learn properly to
fly my Debian installation.

I have enough software on Linux Magazine's coverdisks to keep me
occupied indefinitely.

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:14:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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I have enough software on Linux Magazine's coverdisks to keep me
occupied indefinitely.

:-)
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:14:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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I have enough software on Linux Magazine's coverdisks to keep me
occupied indefinitely.

:-)

Would you like some too? :-)))))

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:25:34 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:14:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

I have enough software on Linux Magazine's coverdisks to keep me
occupied indefinitely.

:-)

Would you like some too? :-)))))

I have a box full of SuSie waiting to be opened, plus 3 CDs off a
freshly bought LInux Magazine cover.
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:25:34 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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The message
from martin contains these words:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:14:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

I have enough software on Linux Magazine's coverdisks to keep me
occupied indefinitely.

:-)

Would you like some too? :-)))))

I have a box full of SuSie waiting to be opened, plus 3 CDs off a
freshly bought LInux Magazine cover.

You'd better use them before they go stale.

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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:20:27 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:25:34 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:
The message
from martin contains these words:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:14:28 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

I have enough software on Linux Magazine's coverdisks to keep me
occupied indefinitely.

:-)

Would you like some too? :-)))))

I have a box full of SuSie waiting to be opened, plus 3 CDs off a
freshly bought LInux Magazine cover.

You'd better use them before they go stale.

The box is full of SuSE.
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The message
from martin contains these words:

The box is full of SuSE.

#If you knew SuSE like I know SuSE,
Oh, oh, oh what an OS......

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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:42:20 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
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from martin contains these words:

The box is full of SuSE.

#If you knew SuSE like I know SuSE,
Oh, oh, oh what an OS......

egg sackly
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