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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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No. As I said in another post, my spelling is 100% correct. I just like
to
generate the illusion of bad spelling by careful manipulation of my typos.
{:-))

I have to agree with you for once, Franz. I too have amazingly good spelling
but foggy eyes and creaking fingers. My daughter quite often has fits of
hysterics when she sees some of my typo's.
Even if I remember to use the spell-checker it often knows nose nos words
that fit my mis-type.

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"mich" wrote in message
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I left there because I couldnt stand the almost daily intimidation, thefts
,
vandalism . Its not Halloween or bonfire night that creates this problem
,
its a 24/7/365 problem.
People who blame bonfire night are just looking for a scapegoat for what
is
actually a wider social problem.

And the only way to tackle the wider problem is to legislate for each facet
and then follow through with action.
You can't just run away and hide in the country whilst smugly professing to
have worked you way into a superior lifestyle. Bit by bit you have to
re-establish control, not leave it to others by saying "it's a wider
issue"...

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"Sue da Nimm" . wrote in message
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"mich" wrote in message
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is
actually a wider social problem.

And the only way to tackle the wider problem is to legislate for each
facet
and then follow through with action.
You can't just run away and hide in the country whilst smugly professing
to
have worked you way into a superior lifestyle.

What makes you think its a "superior" life style?
Its different.

And I make no appologies for running away.

I had my car tyres ( all four of them) slashed by 13 year old kid ( female)
from next door. Her elder sister burgled my house.
They stole garden statues and such like regularly!
Why? They thought I had shopped them to the DSS for working cash in hand. I
didnt - her best friend did it, but I took the blame

In addition to that I have threatened with a knife by some lout further
across the estate. I have been physically assulted and still have the scars
, threatened with a baseball bat ( by some youngster out of his head on
something). It wasnt safe to go out , anytime.
I was sworn at , called a FW, told to F off, and that wasnt just me, many
ordinary people had the same thing happen.

The police did nothing. The speed with which they answered calls made a
snail look fast!
They didnt bother to come out for the burglaries , they just said, claim on
your insurance.

If they cant be bothered, why should I?

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AndWhyNot wrote:


Still Christmas starts in September...

In this week's New Scientist, someone reported that they had
spotted Christmas Mince Pies for sale in Tesco, with a sell-by
date in November.
--
Nick Wagg

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"Sue da Nimm" . wrote in message
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:
: "mich" wrote in message
: ...
: As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified
: animal"
: on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not
: reading your feelings into their behaviour?
:
: I was caught in a traffic jam and didn't get home 'till after dark.
: Our Newfoundland, who is terrified by bangs, had broken through the fence
: trying to find an escape from the bangs and flashes. My neighbour had
taken
: him in and was trying to comfort him.
:
: Fireworks on Nov 5th, Diwali and New Years Eve we can cope with - and
enjoy.
: But it's been like the blitz here from the last few days of October, with
: fireworks going off in all directions EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
:
: I'm no spoil-sport, but if parents can't exercise control and persuade
kids
: that fireworks are for special occasions, then the law must.
:
I don't think it's just the children, it's the overgrown children as well
AKA fathers.

K

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"Martin Sykes" wrote in
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I don't have a problem with people letting them off on the 5th or even
during the closest weekend and I'm not going to complain with people
entering into the spirit of the occasion any more than I'd complain about
trick-or-treaters at halloween but I really don't see the attraction of
domestic displays.

'Corporate' displays are all very well, but I don't think they compare to
the excitement of choosing your own fireworks, building your own bonfire,
making your own bonfire toffee and flapjack, and toasting your own jacket
potatoes in the embers.

Bonfire night is one of my happiest childhood memories. We had a big
bonfire on some rough ground and everyone from a couple of street around
would bring food and a box of fireworks. It was magic.

I think Molly and Mich are both right. It must be impossibly difficult to
live with fireworks going on so long and so late, particularly if you have
pets and need to get up early to go to work. But it is also a wider
problem, and I am dubious about how effectively such a law would be
enforced.

I suspect it is more likely to prevent fun evenings like the ones I
remember than stop yobs. You don't think that if they can't buy fireworks
they will try burning petrol, exploding spray cans and so on? Still, I
suppose it's worth a try.

I just wish there was a review process for laws - say after a couple of
years 'OK, that didn't work, lets repeal it and try something else...'.

Victoria

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"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.217...
: "Martin Sykes" wrote in
: :
:
: I don't have a problem with people letting them off on the 5th or even
: during the closest weekend and I'm not going to complain with people
: entering into the spirit of the occasion any more than I'd complain
about
: trick-or-treaters at halloween but I really don't see the attraction of
: domestic displays.
:
: 'Corporate' displays are all very well, but I don't think they compare to
: the excitement of choosing your own fireworks, building your own bonfire,
: making your own bonfire toffee and flapjack, and toasting your own jacket
: potatoes in the embers.
:
: Bonfire night is one of my happiest childhood memories. We had a big
: bonfire on some rough ground and everyone from a couple of street around
: would bring food and a box of fireworks. It was magic.
:
: I think Molly and Mich are both right. It must be impossibly difficult to
: live with fireworks going on so long and so late, particularly if you have
: pets and need to get up early to go to work. But it is also a wider
: problem, and I am dubious about how effectively such a law would be
: enforced.
:
: I suspect it is more likely to prevent fun evenings like the ones I
: remember than stop yobs. You don't think that if they can't buy fireworks
: they will try burning petrol, exploding spray cans and so on? Still, I
: suppose it's worth a try.
:
: I just wish there was a review process for laws - say after a couple of
: years 'OK, that didn't work, lets repeal it and try something else...'.
:
: Victoria

I agree with Molly and have wonderful childhood memories. I think fireworks
are great in moderation and if you are present.
We have organised displays throughout the summer round here - every other
Weds at Kneller Hall, also at Kew Gardens, Syon Park, Marble Hill etc, etc.
Lovely if you are there and can see them, but tedious if you are not.

K

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I love fireworks. I also like bonfires but I`ve been getting treatment
for that particular problem. Anyway, we have fireworks starting at the
start of October now and they will not finish untill New years eve as
the shops will now start selling them for then.

It`s been worse this year than ever before and the dog, who was a army
patrol mascot, has not been able to cope this year. Whether it`s all the
new money coming here I dont know but how people afford to spend the
kind of money thats going up into the air is beyond me!

I think round our way it will calm down in a couple of years time as
people run out of their pots of wealth when they upped and left the
cities for the sticks. Us locals will still be stood out in the fields
with our shotguns making all the bangs we want so we can get some nice
game to sell the newcomers.

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mich wrote in message
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"anne" wrote in message
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mich wrote in message
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snip


And to answer an earlier poster, I do live in the middle of nowhere (
the
countryside)
and having people round is a luxury.


That's the difference then - you are lucky enough not to have
experienced
what it's been like for most of us for the past few years. It used to be
ok
but it sure isn't now, it's gone completely OTT.

I am not "lucky". I live where I do because I worked hard and bought my
way
out of a council estate in an inner city!

I left there because I couldnt stand the almost daily intimidation, thefts
,
vandalism . Its not Halloween or bonfire night that creates this problem
,
its a 24/7/365 problem.
People who blame bonfire night are just looking for a scapegoat for what
is
actually a wider social problem.


I think most people agree that it's not the fireworks that's the problem
it's the people who use them!

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"anne" wrote in message
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:
: I think most people agree that it's not the fireworks that's the problem
: it's the people who use them!
:
And the people who make them, and the people who sell them.....
I read somewhere that they are being made illegally in Ireland and sent
here.
Can't they make them without the bangs - then most people apart from the FWs
will be happy.

K

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"mich" wrote in message
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"Molly Bloom" wrote in message
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Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from
myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise
from
fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun
but
lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop.
And
occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so
thoughtless!

Well, sorry to say this ( and knowing it will get flamed) I am quite the
opposite. I get fed up of this kind of moan and gripe.

I bet you are the one with the barbie every fine weekend in the summer ,
polluting the wonderful summer nights arent you? But Bonfire night, cos
you
dont bother, no one else can is that it?

I am one of those you are moaning about.
I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers
of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night.
( I
dont bother with Christmas or any other comercialised festival)

As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified
animal"
on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not
reading your feelings into their behaviour?

In my area firework parties seemed to occur on certain nights . Most
seemed
to go off on Wednesday although I have to say all the offical displays
were
being puched through on halloween or the weekend thereafter, and another
speight of these "offical and large" displays went off this weekend!

So if anyone is to blame for the enlongating of the celebration , its the
companies and shops and councils themselves, not people like me.

There will always be abuse by some people , especially apprentice urban
terrorist types in inner cities and banning fireworks simply stops me
having
a good time on a night I especially enjoy.


Mich,

I would like to apologise for my crass behsviour in criticising your
grammar.
It was completely undeserved.

Franz

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"Sue da Nimm" . wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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No. As I said in another post, my spelling is 100% correct. I just
like
to
generate the illusion of bad spelling by careful manipulation of my
typos.
{:-))

I have to agree with you for once, Franz. I too have amazingly good
spelling
but foggy eyes and creaking fingers. My daughter quite often has fits of
hysterics when she sees some of my typo's.
Even if I remember to use the spell-checker it often knows nose nos words
that fit my mis-type.

Yes. It's quite amazing how many typos end up by being words accepted by
the spelling checker.
(I am not using that as an excuse!)

Franz

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In article , Martin Sykes
writes
I don't have a problem with people letting them off on the 5th or even
during the closest weekend and I'm not going to complain with people
entering into the spirit of the occasion any more than I'd complain about
trick-or-treaters at halloween but I really don't see the attraction of
domestic displays. I spent £6.50 last night taking my daughter and neice to
the local Round-Table display. The fireworks were amazing and helped charity
at the same time. There was a massive bonfire, fairground rides, and food
stalls as well. Why on earth would anyone bother on spending hundreds of
pounds to have something far inferior at home?

It doesn't cost 'hundreds' to have a good display. I don't have to worry
about crowds, pick-pockets, people chucking bangers around. I don't need
to worry about where my children are. I can sit on our terrace in a
comfortable chair with a good bottle of wine, some baked potatoes, and
chestnuts roasting on the brazier in front of us, chatting with friends.
What with the warm night, the moon eclipse and so on, we didn't go in
till after 3.30. It was a lovely night!

I'm not claiming it is superior to yours, but everyone to their own
taste - you can't see the point of domestic displays, but my family
prefers them. Doesn't mean to say either of us are right.

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

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In article , anne
writes

mich wrote in message
...

snip


And to answer an earlier poster, I do live in the middle of nowhere ( the
countryside)
and having people round is a luxury.


That's the difference then - you are lucky enough not to have experienced
what it's been like for most of us for the past few years. It used to be ok
but it sure isn't now, it's gone completely OTT.

We've had fireworks going off at all times of the day and night for the
past 4 weeks, but it doesn't actually bother me, and the cats all take
it in their stride. I accept that other people may be suffering real
problems as a result. If the consensus is that it needs sorting, I'm not
going to fuss, but just hope they find some way that means those of us
who have a single display on bonfire night don't lose out while the
menaces using fireworks as a deliberate nuisance can carry on
regardless. In other wards, any law should be enforceable rather than
the choice of naturally law-abiding.




--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

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In article , Nick Wagg
writes
AndWhyNot wrote:


Still Christmas starts in September...

In this week's New Scientist, someone reported that they had
spotted Christmas Mince Pies for sale in Tesco, with a sell-by
date in November.

Friends brought some round to our bonfire ;-)

But - do you not know that every mince pie eating before Christmas
brings you a month of good luck after?
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm