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Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! I've found spent fireworks in my garden and I daren't go out there after dark in case I'm hit. I know neighbours are terrified and animals are frightened but nobody seems capable of doing anything about this. I'd appreciate some feedback before I complain to my local councillor - not that I expect that to do much good. Molly |
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"Molly Bloom" wrote in message ... Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! Well, sorry to say this ( and knowing it will get flamed) I am quite the opposite. I get fed up of this kind of moan and gripe. I bet you are the one with the barbie every fine weekend in the summer , polluting the wonderful summer nights arent you? But Bonfire night, cos you dont bother, no one else can is that it? I am one of those you are moaning about. I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night. ( I dont bother with Christmas or any other comercialised festival) As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not reading your feelings into their behaviour? In my area firework parties seemed to occur on certain nights . Most seemed to go off on Wednesday although I have to say all the offical displays were being puched through on halloween or the weekend thereafter, and another speight of these "offical and large" displays went off this weekend! So if anyone is to blame for the enlongating of the celebration , its the companies and shops and councils themselves, not people like me. There will always be abuse by some people , especially apprentice urban terrorist types in inner cities and banning fireworks simply stops me having a good time on a night I especially enjoy. rant over. |
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"Molly Bloom" wrote in message ... : : : Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from : myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from : fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but : lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And : occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! : : : : I've found spent fireworks in my garden and I daren't go out there after : dark in case I'm hit. I know neighbours are terrified and animals are : frightened but nobody seems capable of doing anything about this. : : : : I'd appreciate some feedback before I complain to my local councillor - not : that I expect that to do much good. : : : : Molly : I'm in SW London and am just as fed up. I can hear them now as I'm typing this. We've had them every day and night for weeks - long before Diwali and even longer before Guy Fawkes night. They seem to get worse each year now. One night they were still going at 02.00 and again at 06.00. I like a good display of fireworks but only occasionally. K |
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"Molly wrote in message Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! Yes we too are fed up with it, Devali, Bonfire night and the nearest Saturdays to them and before 10pm is OK in my book but every night (and some days?) for a couple of months is crazy. Why would you light fireworks after 10pm when you can't sound your car horn, a safety device. We had what sounded like a large display near here start at 11.30 the other night and we were woken up at 2.30 one night last week when some nice local lit a cake (large multi-chamber firework), and that's not the only time this year. Even our cats who originally didn't mind fireworks at all are now frightened, and a relatives dog has to be sedated almost every night which can't be good for him. Goodness knows how the wildlife cope. I suspect these unthinking morons will ruin it for all of us as usual. -- Regards Bob Use a useful Screen Saver... http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ and find intelligent life amongst the stars, there's bugger all down here. |
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"mich" wrote in message ... "Molly Bloom" wrote in message ... Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! Well, sorry to say this ( and knowing it will get flamed) I am quite the opposite. I get fed up of this kind of moan and gripe. I bet you are the one with the barbie every fine weekend in the summer , polluting the wonderful summer nights arent you? But Bonfire night, cos you dont bother, no one else can is that it? I am one of those you are moaning about. I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night. ( I dont bother with Christmas or any other comercialised festival) As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not reading your feelings into their behaviour? In my area firework parties seemed to occur on certain nights . Most seemed to go off on Wednesday although I have to say all the offical displays were being puched through on halloween or the weekend thereafter, and another speight of these "offical and large" displays went off this weekend! So if anyone is to blame for the enlongating of the celebration , its the companies and shops and councils themselves, not people like me. There will always be abuse by some people , especially apprentice urban terrorist types in inner cities and banning fireworks simply stops me having a good time on a night I especially enjoy. rant over. Following on, I have to produce my Shotgun cert when buying cartridges. Fireworks are normally purchased by inexperienced persons or lets say persons not normally used to handling such volatile objects. They are or can be as lethal as a Shotgun cartridge so why no laws for buying them. clanger |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:33:37 +0000 (UTC), "Molly Bloom"
wrote: I'd appreciate some feedback before I complain to my local councillor - not that I expect that to do much good. Correct.............. Molly Sign of the times Molly, Sod you (not you) I'm alright is the attitude today (not mine) ............ I live in a very remote part of the Lincs Fenland, and have had this now for about 1 month. People literally have money to burn. Again, have fun and enjoy yourself, if burning money is your thing, but it WAS to celebrate Nov 5th, Guy Fawkes etc, and not spread over a month. Still Christmas starts in September, and Easter eggs will soon, if not already, be in the shops. Sad! Still sod you, I'm alright, I don't care .................... |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:53:01 -0000, mich ,although not a dog, wrote:
As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not reading your feelings into their behaviour? I suggest you read the following taken from the Guide dogs for the blind Association's Website :- "Guide Dogs has campaigned for a number of years for fireworks controls. The charity is forced to prematurely retire a number of guide dogs each year as a result of trauma caused by fireworks noise, as well as retraining many others and sedating hundreds more. As fireworks use has grown in recent years, so have the negative effects and Guide Dogs is faced with an annual bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds. In addition, guide dog owners are often left without the independence and mobility they have come to rely on from their guide dogs." Do you *still* feel the same ? -- Regards, Troy the Black Lab. |
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"Troy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:53:01 -0000, mich ,although not a dog, wrote: Do you *still* feel the same ? -- To be bloody minded - YES! I have to be honest and say I get fed up with the the quotation of such organisations ad infanitum. Maybe they simply wont admit they have a breeding problem? Or that they dont train the owners well enough? I have lived with animals all my life, bred them, kept livestock, have lots of pets. I love them all. Some are anxious by nature. The answer is a secure home and shelter and to ensure they are indoors. |
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"Molly Bloom" wrote in message ... : : : Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from : myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from : fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but : lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And : occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! : : : : I've found spent fireworks in my garden and I daren't go out there after : dark in case I'm hit. I know neighbours are terrified and animals are : frightened but nobody seems capable of doing anything about this. : : : : I'd appreciate some feedback before I complain to my local councillor - not : that I expect that to do much good. : : : : Molly : : You are not alone and thank goodness the new law should help prevent this nuisance......... as long as they try and enforce it |
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"mich" wrote in message ... snip As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not reading your feelings into their behaviour? You are sadly wrong. One of our dogs had to be regularly sedated as she became a trembling jelly each time she heard fireworks. A very close friend in a village in Wiltshire lost his dog ten days ago because she ran away having been terrified and disorientated by fireworks. After ten days of searching, posters, visiting every possible place and telling everyone, he broadcast on the local radio station. Sandy was found thank goodness. My brother is very seriously ill in hospital at the moment and they put a photograph of Sandy with the words 'found' by his bed. When he came round after being unconscious for over ten days, he cried with joy. Do not attribute your ridiculous 'human' feelings to animals. They just hear loud bangs and are terrified. Iris McCanna |
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the new law will do nothing as there is no one there to polices it,the police wont be interested.those setting them off at daft times are just a bunch of ignorant *******!!! kenty ,sick of them too. "Robert" wrote in message ... "Molly Bloom" wrote in message ... : : : Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from : myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from : fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but : lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And : occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! : : : : I've found spent fireworks in my garden and I daren't go out there after : dark in case I'm hit. I know neighbours are terrified and animals are : frightened but nobody seems capable of doing anything about this. : : : : I'd appreciate some feedback before I complain to my local councillor - not : that I expect that to do much good. : : : : Molly : : You are not alone and thank goodness the new law should help prevent this nuisance......... as long as they try and enforce it |
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mich wrote in message ... "Molly Bloom" wrote in message ... Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! Well, sorry to say this ( and knowing it will get flamed) I am quite the opposite. I get fed up of this kind of moan and gripe. I bet you are the one with the barbie every fine weekend in the summer , polluting the wonderful summer nights arent you? But Bonfire night, cos you dont bother, no one else can is that it? I am one of those you are moaning about. I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night. ( I dont bother with Christmas or any other comercialised festival) As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not reading your feelings into their behaviour? In my area firework parties seemed to occur on certain nights . Most seemed to go off on Wednesday although I have to say all the offical displays were being puched through on halloween or the weekend thereafter, and another speight of these "offical and large" displays went off this weekend! So if anyone is to blame for the enlongating of the celebration , its the companies and shops and councils themselves, not people like me. There will always be abuse by some people , especially apprentice urban terrorist types in inner cities and banning fireworks simply stops me having a good time on a night I especially enjoy. rant over. Where do you live Mich, some sleepy village in the middle of nowhere? Lucky you if you only have them "around" Nov 5th. If it was the same for all of us then we'd probably agree with you. However, most of us have to listen to them for the entire month - night after night and it's just spoilt the whole thing. People seem to have no worries about setting them off at any hour. Now we are getting people throwing them at houses, cars, putting them in post boxes, telephone boxes and god knows where else. They are dangerous in the wrong hands and "wrong hands" seem to increase year by year together with the lack of consideration for others with regards to noise. Your point concerning animals - my dog used to ignore them, never bothered her, then last year when it seemed to be constant, night after night, she suddenly "flipped" and decided she was frightened. It was obviously due to overload. As I said before, if you are only having them on Nov 5th, no wonder you still enjoy them! |
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"Molly Bloom" wrote in message
... Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so thoughtless! I've found spent fireworks in my garden and I daren't go out there after dark in case I'm hit. I know neighbours are terrified and animals are frightened but nobody seems capable of doing anything about this. I'd appreciate some feedback before I complain to my local councillor - not that I expect that to do much good. Molly I don't have a problem with people letting them off on the 5th or even during the closest weekend and I'm not going to complain with people entering into the spirit of the occasion any more than I'd complain about trick-or-treaters at halloween but I really don't see the attraction of domestic displays. I spent £6.50 last night taking my daughter and neice to the local Round-Table display. The fireworks were amazing and helped charity at the same time. There was a massive bonfire, fairground rides, and food stalls as well. Why on earth would anyone bother on spending hundreds of pounds to have something far inferior at home? I do think it's inconsiderate though to let them off on other nights. It's all very well telling people to keep their pets indoors but it's not fair to ask them to do that for a fortnight either side of bonfire night. Martin & Anna Sykes ( Remove x's when replying ) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm |
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"mich" wrote in message ... : : "Molly Bloom" wrote in message : ... : : : Off topic, I know, but I'd be interested he know if others - apart from : myself - are being driven scatty by the relentless barrages of noise from : fireworks over the past weeks. I've no objection to people having fun but : lately - in this part of South London - the noise never seems to stop. And : occasionally it carries on to the small hours. People can be so : thoughtless! : : Well, sorry to say this ( and knowing it will get flamed) I am quite the : opposite. I get fed up of this kind of moan and gripe. : : I bet you are the one with the barbie every fine weekend in the summer , : polluting the wonderful summer nights arent you? But Bonfire night, cos you : dont bother, no one else can is that it? : : I am one of those you are moaning about. : I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers : of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night. ( I : dont bother with Christmas or any other comercialised festival) : : As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" : on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not : reading your feelings into their behaviour? : : In my area firework parties seemed to occur on certain nights . Most seemed : to go off on Wednesday although I have to say all the offical displays were : being puched through on halloween or the weekend thereafter, and another : speight of these "offical and large" displays went off this weekend! : : So if anyone is to blame for the enlongating of the celebration , its the : companies and shops and councils themselves, not people like me. : : There will always be abuse by some people , especially apprentice urban : terrorist types in inner cities and banning fireworks simply stops me having : a good time on a night I especially enjoy. : : rant over. : I used to feel a bit like you - but not the animal bit. It used to be alright round here when, as you say, "firework parties seemed to occur on certain nights". Years ago it used to be just Nov 5 and/or the weekend before or after but not any more. It might die down soon - I hope so - but you can bet your life it will start up again at Christmas and the New Year - any excuse. And, no, I don't have BBQs in the summer. I am certain some animals are frightened by them just as some humans are frightened by certain things and others are not. You cannot generalise, and how about the wildlife - or don't you care? K |
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"........I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large
numbers of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night.( I don't bother with Christmas or any other commercialised festival)........." And Guy Fawks night isn't commercialised? -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: Why would you light fireworks after 10pm when you can't sound your car horn, a safety device. You can. the deadline (IIRC) 11 pm, but you can use it as a warning at any time for safty reasons. Look at your Highway Code. -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "Molly Bloom" contains these words: I'd appreciate some feedback before I complain to my local councillor - not that I expect that to do much good. Where you are I'd expect you to be caught by the celebrations of Diwali, followed by Hallowe'en and then by (back on topic) G. Fawkes night. -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "mich" contains these words: "Troy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:53:01 -0000, mich ,although not a dog, wrote: Do you *still* feel the same ? -- To be bloody minded - YES! I have to be honest and say I get fed up with the the quotation of such organisations ad infanitum. Maybe they simply wont admit they have a breeding problem? Or that they dont train the owners well enough? I have lived with animals all my life, bred them, kept livestock, have lots of pets. I love them all. Some are anxious by nature. The answer is a secure home and shelter and to ensure they are indoors. Our old bull terrier used to positively revel in bonfire night, and to get rid of her during set pieces (she wanted to get at them) we would set off a large (by the then standards) rocket on a low trajectory, over the seven-acre wood at the bottom of the garden, and beyond. "Fetch it!" Bull terror in full cry, fading to silence Later, sometimes five minutes, sometimes half an hour, she would return, and always with the right rocket. She was also an excellent gundog - well, from the retrieving point of view, but she wouldn't sit and wait to be told to 'fetch'. She was off as soon as she saw the pigeon or rabbit drop. -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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"David Hill" wrote in message ... "........I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night.( I don't bother with Christmas or any other commercialised festival)........." And Guy Fawks night isn't commercialised? Not as much as Christmas. Emphasis now is on halloween if you hadnt noticed - demanding money with menaces , now there is a crime and a frightening one! I am fortunate, I dont suffer from that anymore since most little terrorists are too spooked to come round my place .Its dark at night and we have bats flying around ( I kid you not! g). But I lived in a town and whilst at first it was OK, about four years ago, it got pretty aweful. I hear its worse now. But no one is trying to stop halloween and tell people to go to organised treat or treat parties are they? Actually trying to buy fireworks , especially in the wake of opinions of posters such as the one who originally posted here , is quite difficult. All I ever hear is "go to an organised display"( for £6.50?) Ok it cost me a lot more than that ( possible about £30) but a lot less than Christmas - and I didnt have to: a) walk amongst loads and loads of germs and viruses and come home with a cold, b) didnt have to put up with kids, strangers and merrygo rounds c) but up with the now obligatory "barbie" doing fast fatty and unhealthy food. d) I did manage to be able to see my fireworks , unlike organised displays , where you actually get to see very little ( done it decided against it) e) didnt have to waste fuel getting there. My party was an all adult affair. I had good healthy food , I cooked it. And to answer an earlier poster, I do live in the middle of nowhere ( the countryside) and having people round is a luxury. |
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"..............Maybe they simply wont admit they have a breeding problem? Or
that they don't train the owners well enough? I have lived with animals all my life, bred them, kept livestock, have lots of pets. I love them all. Some are anxious by nature. The answer is a secure home and shelter and to ensure they are indoors........." What a wonderful idea... lets keep people with Guide dogs off the streets for at least 2 weeks around the start of November.so that all idiots can throw fireworks to their hearts content. Incidentally.....if you are elderly and with bad or no sight then the time around Nov. 5th can be a very frightening time, and you still have to get shopping etc, unless you want to sit like a prisoner in your own home for a few weeks. And that isn't always safe....locally we have had a firework thrown through the bedroom window of a 76 yr old lady, set the flat on fire and terrified the lady. In another incident a rocket was fired through the window of another pensioner again causing damage and this time injuring the lady concerned. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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"mich" wrote in message ... [snip] You write much too much for one with such a poor command of English spelling. Franz |
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"Troy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:53:01 -0000, mich ,although not a dog, wrote: As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not reading your feelings into their behaviour? I suggest you read the following taken from the Guide dogs for the blind Association's Website :- "Guide Dogs has campaigned for a number of years for fireworks controls. The charity is forced to prematurely retire a number of guide dogs each year as a result of trauma caused by fireworks noise, as well as retraining many others and sedating hundreds more. As fireworks use has grown in recent years, so have the negative effects and Guide Dogs is faced with an annual bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds. In addition, guide dog owners are often left without the independence and mobility they have come to rely on from their guide dogs." Do you *still* feel the same ? What's the bet the answer is "yes"? Franz |
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"mich" wrote in message ... "Troy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:53:01 -0000, mich ,although not a dog, wrote: Do you *still* feel the same ? -- To be bloody minded - YES! I did predict it. Honest, I did. [snip] Franz |
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"Iris McCanna" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... snip As for my animals , they were fine. I have yet to have a "terrified animal" on Bonfire night or the nights that suround it! Are you sure your not reading your feelings into their behaviour? You are sadly wrong. One of our dogs had to be regularly sedated as she became a trembling jelly each time she heard fireworks. A very close friend in a village in Wiltshire lost his dog ten days ago because she ran away having been terrified and disorientated by fireworks. After ten days of searching, posters, visiting every possible place and telling everyone, he broadcast on the local radio station. Sandy was found thank goodness. My brother is very seriously ill in hospital at the moment and they put a photograph of Sandy with the words 'found' by his bed. When he came round after being unconscious for over ten days, he cried with joy. Do not attribute your ridiculous 'human' feelings to animals. They just hear loud bangs and are terrified. I bet this has no effect on mich worth recording. Franz |
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... "Troy" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:53:01 -0000, mich ,although not a dog, wrote: Do you *still* feel the same ? -- To be bloody minded - YES! I did predict it. Honest, I did. Rubbish! How can you predict something that was posted two hours before you made your prediction? |
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... [snip] You write much too much for one with such a poor command of English spelling. People who live in glass houses and all that. What is it they say about the internet? If you cant actually put up a reasoned response , just comment on spelling grammar or some other irrelevent factor? Check your own spelling! |
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"David Hill" wrote in message ... "........I had a bonfire party on Wednesday night who was letting off large numbers of fireworks.. Its only time I ever have a party. I love bonfire night.( I don't bother with Christmas or any other commercialised festival)........." And Guy Fawks night isn't commercialised? Of course it is. A son bought £80 worth of boxed fireworks (as ASDA prices) for £16 at his wholesaler. What sort of profit is that? That is commercialism. You can make your own Christmas cards, you can't easily make your own fireworks. But to reply to an earlier poster, if you live in the inner city, as we do, you suffer the very loud noises of fireworks all round the year, not just at festivals or weekends. And not just in the evenings. We're woken, suddenly and frightened, during the night - at any hour. And the fireworks - we hope - (not the decorative ones but the noisy ones) are sounding through daylight hours. It's like living in a war zone. We don't know if they're fireworks or guns or bombs. For the last two nights we've used RAF issue ear plugs which are uncomfortable but at least ensure sleep. I love to see firework displays (I think our civic displays are free) and last night we had beautiful garden fireworks for a grand-daughter. But irresponsible use of serious ordinance is anti social and potentially dangerous. Sleep deprivation is used as a torture by some regimes, here we just have to suffer it. Loud fireworks are simply unnecessary. The only answer would be to legislate against the sale of these ridiculously loud fireworks to anyone except licensed organisations, and to keep to the law. Enforcement of the act of using anti-social fireworks is impossible to police. Older people, sick people and young people are having the quality of their lives spoiled by these things. Some animals are frightened by the noise I'm sure, our cat used to be but our hens don't display any nervousness and I've never watched the bees so I can't make a blanket statement. I think it Is important to make our views felt to local councillors. There seems to be a growing antagonism to the problem and they councillors aren't unaware of it but the more people they hear from the less they'll be able to ignore it. Especially if we mention ballot boxes ... Mary l Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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"mich" wrote in message ... : : And Guy Fawks night isn't commercialised? : : Not as much as Christmas. Emphasis now is on halloween if you hadnt : noticed - demanding money with menaces , now there is a crime and a : frightening one! : : I am fortunate, I dont suffer from that anymore since most little : terrorists are too spooked to come round my place .Its dark at night and we : have bats flying around ( I kid you not! g). But I lived in a town and : whilst at first it was OK, about four years ago, it got pretty aweful. I : hear its worse now. : : But no one is trying to stop halloween and tell people to go to organised : treat or treat parties are they? : : Actually trying to buy fireworks , especially in the wake of opinions of : posters such as the one who originally posted here , is quite difficult. : : All I ever hear is "go to an organised display"( for £6.50?) Ok it cost me a : lot more than that ( possible about £30) but a lot less than Christmas - and : I didnt have to: : : a) walk amongst loads and loads of germs and viruses and come home with a : cold, : b) didnt have to put up with kids, strangers and merrygo rounds : c) but up with the now obligatory "barbie" doing fast fatty and unhealthy : food. : d) I did manage to be able to see my fireworks , unlike organised displays , : where you actually get to see very little ( done it decided against it) : e) didnt have to waste fuel getting there. : : My party was an all adult affair. I had good healthy food , I cooked it. : : And to answer an earlier poster, I do live in the middle of nowhere ( the : countryside) : and having people round is a luxury. : No surprise you don't celebrate Christmas! K |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:08:12 -0000, mich wrote:
And Guy Fawks night isn't commercialised? Not as much as Christmas. Christmas is appaulling now. Not only do we have suffer not being able to get any service out of any organisation for two weeks we have to put up with the marketing machine pushing it since October FFS! Then actually trying do your normal shopping but with 500% more other people standing in doorways or shop walkways in a daze 'cause they can't decide if Auntie Molly (who they met, once, 25 years ago) would like the black or blue headscarf for =A350 or maybe the green gloves and= matching scarf (=A345) but would that clash with Uncle Bernies (never met) lilac tie (=A330) that they'd just bought so prehaps they should take the lilac tie back and get the green tie but that is a very nice blue scarf.... You only have to look at the UKs demand for power over Christmas week to realise that there is *no* work being done at all. BAH! HUMBUG. Emphasis now is on halloween if you hadnt noticed I guess to some people Halloween is Guy Fawkes/Bonfire night. Oh well. The nasty Americanisium of Trick 'n Treating can go back over the pond thank you very much. But no one is trying to stop halloween and tell people to go to organised treat or treat parties are they? The parents down in the village organised one for the village kids only. Ours couldn't go (and didn't know about it either) as I was away working and SWMBO'd was laid out with a 48hr "flu". a) walk amongst loads and loads of germs and viruses and come home with a cold, b) didnt have to put up with kids, strangers and merrygo rounds c) but up with the now obligatory "barbie" doing fast fatty and unhealthy food. d) I did manage to be able to see my fireworks , unlike organised displays, where you actually get to see very little ( done it decided against it) e) didnt have to waste fuel getting there. Agree, I've been to some fairly big organised displays and the key factor in really enjoying it is not to go to the main "viewing" or entertainment area. Find a nice spot 1/2 a mile away with a good view of the sky above where the mortars are. Avoids all the nasty aspects listed above (add the noise of the poeple, rides, hawkers etc as well) and you get a better view of the fireworks without a crick in your neck. The only thing you miss out on is the thump through the ground as the mortars fire. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:26:26 +0000, Jane Ransom
wrote: In article , Dave Liquorice writes On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:08:12 -0000, mich wrote: And Guy Fawks night isn't commercialised? Not as much as Christmas. Lancaster market hall had its Xmas decorations up before the end of October!!!!! Leiden never took all of their Xmas decorations down from last year. -- Martin |
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"mich" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... [snip] You write much too much for one with such a poor command of English spelling. People who live in glass houses and all that. What is it they say about the internet? If you cant actually put up a reasoned response , just comment on spelling grammar or some other irrelevent factor? Check your own spelling! You never know Mich, next he will prophesy that his spelling will get better 2 hours before it does, and still get it wrong!!! Whats up with people when others have a different point of view that they have to get all picky and personal? Takes all sorts eh? Anthony |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:26:26 +0000, Jane Ransom ,although not a dog, wrote:
Lancaster market hall had its Xmas decorations up before the end of October!!!!! Ha :-)) Christmas will be like any other day in this house ..... ...... dead miserable !! You can spend pounds if you're not careful .. ... not one extra penny's leaving *my* pocket !! ... Upstairs with me mug of cocoa and me copy of "Bleak House" !!! -- Regards, Troy the Black Lab. |
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:21:58 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
It's like living in a war zone. We don't know if they're fireworks or guns or bombs. You have never heard gunfire or a bomb then? They sound very different. I was living about 3/4 mile from the bomb at Bristol university a few years back. I heard it and knew straight away that it was *not* a firework. It wasn't loud just far more percussive. The same applies to gunfire. I was also in Birmingham seeing Spike Milligan when the Pub Bombs went off, again it sounded different to thunder or big firework(s). -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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from another point of view I know a blind girl with a guide dog, which gets
that scared of fireworks they have to use tranquillisers to calm the dog down,they may have to retire the dog which she has had for years!!If there aren't any set times how can she go out & be safe!I don't mind fireworks on the 5th November & new years eve,but that should be it.after all isn't it guy fawkes night, not month or in alot of cases months. How can you compare a bbq with fireworks,I know you put bangers;-)(sausages) on a bbq,but there is no comparison! You are a TOSSER if you set fireworks off other than 5th nov & new years eve & after 9pm.This isn't a attack on anyone in the group unless you apply to this.You will understand if you have kids & pets or any decency in you!Mind you some of the nesbits who have there kids up at all hours,nowadays! no wonder society is like it is.I will now get of the soap box,but I am sure this isn't the last word on the matter!! thanks all kenty ps what happened to gardening,it must be those dark nights! gardening withdrawals. .."Anthony" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... [snip] You write much too much for one with such a poor command of English spelling. People who live in glass houses and all that. What is it they say about the internet? If you cant actually put up a reasoned response , just comment on spelling grammar or some other irrelevent factor? Check your own spelling! You never know Mich, next he will prophesy that his spelling will get better 2 hours before it does, and still get it wrong!!! Whats up with people when others have a different point of view that they have to get all picky and personal? Takes all sorts eh? Anthony |
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mich wrote in message ... snip And to answer an earlier poster, I do live in the middle of nowhere ( the countryside) and having people round is a luxury. That's the difference then - you are lucky enough not to have experienced what it's been like for most of us for the past few years. It used to be ok but it sure isn't now, it's gone completely OTT. |
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Kenty ;-) wrote in message ... from another point of view I know a blind girl with a guide dog, which gets that scared of fireworks they have to use tranquillisers to calm the dog down,they may have to retire the dog which she has had for years!!If there aren't any set times how can she go out & be safe!I don't mind fireworks on the 5th November & new years eve,but that should be it.after all isn't it guy fawkes night, not month or in alot of cases months. How can you compare a bbq with fireworks,I know you put bangers;-)(sausages) on a bbq,but there is no comparison! You are a TOSSER if you set fireworks off other than 5th nov & new years eve & after 9pm.This isn't a attack on anyone in the group unless you apply to this.You will understand if you have kids & pets or any decency in you!Mind you some of the nesbits who have there kids up at all hours,nowadays! no wonder society is like it is.I will now get of the soap box,but I am sure this isn't the last word on the matter!! thanks all kenty ps what happened to gardening,it must be those dark nights! gardening withdrawals. LOL re the sausages. Yes BBQ's was a strange comparison. Mowing the lawn might heen a better one - noise pollution. Oh and it's get's us back on topic ;-) ."Anthony" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "mich" wrote in message ... [snip] You write much too much for one with such a poor command of English spelling. People who live in glass houses and all that. What is it they say about the internet? If you cant actually put up a reasoned response , just comment on spelling grammar or some other irrelevent factor? Check your own spelling! You never know Mich, next he will prophesy that his spelling will get better 2 hours before it does, and still get it wrong!!! Whats up with people when others have a different point of view that they have to get all picky and personal? Takes all sorts eh? Anthony |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: And Guy Fawks night isn't commercialised? Of course it is. A son bought £80 worth of boxed fireworks (as ASDA prices) for £16 at his wholesaler. What sort of profit is that? That is commercialism. You can make your own Christmas cards, you can't easily make your own fireworks. FX Finger pressed to side of nose..... -- Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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"mich" wrote in message ... [snip] But no one is trying to stop halloween and tell people to go to organised treat or treat parties are they? American culture infiltrating again. Franz |
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