TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

Jack

On 25 Nov 2003 17:43:05 -0800, wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

It's because people chopped them down a long time ago for firewood and to
build ships and to clear land for farming.

--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
s.com...
On 25 Nov 2003 17:43:05 -0800, wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

It's because people chopped them down a long time ago for firewood and to
build ships and to clear land for farming.
Tim.

True in one sense, in fact the area in which I myself live was named after
the oaks that once covered the landscape and were cleared for farm land,
there are still plenty here though, we have many many trees in Ireland. A
lot of photo's of Ireland show views of the sea, the mountains and of course
the thatched cottages, but the trees are there believe me. We also have an
enormous area of bogland called the burren, an area where there is flora and
fauna not found anywhere else in the world. Here are a few links you might
find interesting, though Im sure there are thousands more.

http://www.ipcc.ie/index.html
http://www.burrenpage.com/
http://www.ipcc.ie/infoforestry.html
http://www.iol.ie/~carigeen/tree.htm
http://tinyurl.com/wm95
http://tinyurl.com/wm62

Shannie (Ireland)

"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
s.com...
On 25 Nov 2003 17:43:05 -0800, wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

It's because people chopped them down a long time ago for firewood and to
build ships and to clear land for farming.
Tim.

True in one sense, in fact the area in which I myself live was named after
the oaks that once covered the landscape and were cleared for farm land,
there are still plenty here though, we have many many trees in Ireland. A
lot of photo's of Ireland show views of the sea, the mountains and of course
the thatched cottages, but the trees are there believe me. We also have an
enormous area of bogland called the burren, an area where there is flora and
fauna not found anywhere else in the world. Here are a few links you might
find interesting, though Im sure there are thousands more.

http://www.ipcc.ie/index.html
http://www.burrenpage.com/
http://www.ipcc.ie/infoforestry.html
http://www.iol.ie/~carigeen/tree.htm
http://tinyurl.com/wm95
http://tinyurl.com/wm62

Shannie (Ireland)

"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
s.com...
On 25 Nov 2003 17:43:05 -0800, wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

It's because people chopped them down a long time ago for firewood and to
build ships and to clear land for farming.
Tim.

True in one sense, in fact the area in which I myself live was named after
the oaks that once covered the landscape and were cleared for farm land,
there are still plenty here though, we have many many trees in Ireland. A
lot of photo's of Ireland show views of the sea, the mountains and of course
the thatched cottages, but the trees are there believe me. We also have an
enormous area of bogland called the burren, an area where there is flora and
fauna not found anywhere else in the world. Here are a few links you might
find interesting, though Im sure there are thousands more.

http://www.ipcc.ie/index.html
http://www.burrenpage.com/
http://www.ipcc.ie/infoforestry.html
http://www.iol.ie/~carigeen/tree.htm
http://tinyurl.com/wm95
http://tinyurl.com/wm62

Shannie (Ireland)

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:07:08 -0000, "Shannie"
wrote:


"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
ws.com...
On 25 Nov 2003 17:43:05 -0800, wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

It's because people chopped them down a long time ago for firewood and to
build ships and to clear land for farming.
Tim.

True in one sense, in fact the area in which I myself live was named after
the oaks that once covered the landscape and were cleared for farm land,
there are still plenty here though, we have many many trees in Ireland. A
lot of photo's of Ireland show views of the sea, the mountains and of course
the thatched cottages, but the trees are there believe me. We also have an
enormous area of bogland called the burren, an area where there is flora and
fauna not found anywhere else in the world. Here are a few links you might
find interesting, though Im sure there are thousands more.

http://www.ipcc.ie/index.html
http://www.burrenpage.com/

Thanks for the link to Burren and it's picture of Lahinch. I stayed in
the hotel on top of the cliff 40 years ago. A wonderful site for a
hotel.
--
Martin

" wrote in message
om...
TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

Certainly where I live in West Cork there are plenty of trees even though
other areas are barren. The rainfall here is not as great as some think
and all that it really shows is that TV programs give a limited and
distorted view of Ireland, or indeed any country in general.
--
Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

"Cerumen" wrote in news:bq248m$6s4$2
@kermit.esat.net:


" wrote in message
om...
TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees.

Certainly where I live in West Cork there are plenty of trees even though
other areas are barren. The rainfall here is not as great as some think
and all that it really shows is that TV programs give a limited and
distorted view of Ireland, or indeed any country in general.

I remember the day that the 'Holiday' program 'did' North Devon. They
described it as 'attractive but rather flat'.

On closer inspection it proved that they'd spent part of one day in
Braunton (which has a small flat area of marshland immediately behind the
coast), and had done the rest by helicopter. They must have flown at quite
a height...

Either that, or the entire team secretly live in the Alps.

Victoria

On 25 Nov 2003 17:43:05 -0800, wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

Jack

This comment is for a time before 1667,
from :http://www.leevalleyireland.com/wild...ibh_laoire.htm

'The Gaelic word for road, "bothar", reminds us that the first roads were
"cow paths" through the then dense temperate rainforest of oak and elm and
the associate under-canopy of holly, hazel, yew, crabapple, wild cherry and
buckthorn.'


--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:09:11 +0000, Victoria Clare wrote:

I remember the day that the 'Holiday' program 'did' North Devon. They
described it as 'attractive but rather flat'.

? !
Perhaps they were on drugs.


--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

" wrote in message
om...
TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

Jack

There is an excellent arboretum in Ireland with huge quantities of all kinds
of trees from all over the world. It's a memorial arboretum named for one of
your countrymen. His initials were JFK.

Beats an airport any day :-))

It's an excellent place to visit by the way, and I'm sure there'll be a
website somewhere in wwwland.
Steve

"shazzbat" wrote in message
...

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

Jack

There is an excellent arboretum in Ireland with huge quantities of all
kinds
of trees from all over the world. It's a memorial arboretum named for one
of
your countrymen. His initials were JFK.

Yes, your right steve, it's in Co.Wexford and is indeed beautiful

Beats an airport any day :-))

It's an excellent place to visit by the way, and I'm sure there'll be a
website somewhere in wwwland.

Right again, here 'tis
http://tinyurl.com/wmto

shannie (Ireland)

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:15:31 GMT, Tim Challenger
"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote:

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:09:11 +0000, Victoria Clare wrote:

I remember the day that the 'Holiday' program 'did' North Devon. They
described it as 'attractive but rather flat'.

? !
Perhaps they were on drugs.

perhaps they were referring to one of the presenters?
--
Martin

wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

Jack

Some years ago, on holiday in Connemara, we were walking in the hills
and in came across a hill top where the thin (~3 ft) layer of peat had
been badly eroded down to the underlying gravel. In the bottom 9" or so
of the peat, and spread all over the gravel were hundreds of
well-preserved tree roots. I picked up a couple and brought them home as
pieces of natural sculpture. They looked very much like pines of some
sort and it would be fascinating to know how old they were.
--
Larry Stoter

"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
o.uk...
wrote:

TV shows we see in the US show beautiful green Ireland, and we hear
about abundant rainfall, but see very few trees. Is the terrain,
clmate, etc. not suitable to trees or is it because animals chomp
them?

Jack

Some years ago, on holiday in Connemara, we were walking in the hills
and in came across a hill top where the thin (~3 ft) layer of peat had
been badly eroded down to the underlying gravel. In the bottom 9" or so
of the peat, and spread all over the gravel were hundreds of
well-preserved tree roots. I picked up a couple and brought them home as
pieces of natural sculpture. They looked very much like pines of some
sort and it would be fascinating to know how old they were.
--
Larry Stoter

Well spotted Larry, it probably was. One thing I will tell you tho, it's
very expensive to buy, a small piece will cost well over fifty euro, so
take good care of your prize
The link below tells you it can be anything from 4000 to 7000 years old!
http://www.ipcc.ie/infobogwood.html

Shannie(Ireland)