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site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Janet Tweedy
writes Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml I can't get the address all on one line but it IS there! Should say html at the end. Think i searched for "Rosemary Campbell-Preston" and "speaker" to get it. janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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... In article , Janet Tweedy writes Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml I can't get the address all on one line but it IS there! Should say html at the end. Think i searched for "Rosemary Campbell-Preston" and "speaker" to get it. janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk That is bizzarre! BTW, next time try www.tinyurl.com to get a ...tiny url so you dont have wrapping problems. as in http://tinyurl.com/2up7o -- Tumbleweed Remove theobvious before replying (but no email reply necessary to newsgroups) |
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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk Ummmmmmm ! I don't really mind too much as URG is a public forum anyway. BUT they might at least say it's URG ! It does however explain why we have been getting some 'strange postings of late Jenny |
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writes In article , Janet Tweedy writes the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml I can't get the address all on one line but it IS there! Should say html at the end. If you delimit the link by enclosing the url in angled brackets then those of us with Turnpike and other well behaved and standards complaint newsreaders will find that links should not break on line wrapping and they will find it easier to extract the url. Like this: http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...eties_192835.h tml Of course there is a certain well known newsreader which probably doesn't utilize this facility, but TBH, whose problem is that? -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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In message , Janet Tweedy
writes Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) Permission for what? this is Unsenet, once you have posted a message I'm not sure you can really expect to control what happens to it. Has Goggle asked your permission to archive your messages ? The site isn't very well designed but they do have what seems to be a place to request that messages from a specific email address are not displayed. I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... I'm not surprised. There are number of website around that give a web based interface onto Usenet. (You've probably seen post coming from the 'Garden Banter' website) This site does say that these are usenet groups on it 's home page, but it would be better if they gave the name of the groups on the page as well. -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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writes "Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Ummmmmmm ! I don't really mind too much as URG is a public forum anyway. BUT they might at least say it's URG ! quite. It does however explain why we have been getting some 'strange postings of late I doubt it, there seems to be no way to post from this site. -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) Ummmmmmm ! I don't really mind too much as URG is a public forum anyway. BUT they might at least say it's URG ! It does however explain why we have been getting some 'strange postings of late I don't think that one can actually post on that site. They are just displaying our messages. Perhaps it's a tribute to us as we have the most civilised discussion group on gardening. :-) -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Internet: | writing from | | Fidonet: David Rance 2:252/110 | Caversham, | | BBS: telnet://mesnil.demon.co.uk | Reading, UK | +-------------------------------------------------------+ |
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from Chris French and Helen Johnson contains these words: Permission for what? this is Unsenet, once you have posted a message I'm not sure you can really expect to control what happens to it. Has Goggle asked your permission to archive your messages ? Well, yes - Archive yes/no, which I believe Google honours, but some other archivers ignore. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:46:35 +0000, Chris French and Helen Johnson
wrote: In message , Janet Tweedy writes Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) Permission for what? this is Unsenet, once you have posted a message I'm not sure you can really expect to control what happens to it. Has Goggle asked your permission to archive your messages ? Google respects X-No Archive in headers. This site doesn't. -- Martin |
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In article , Janet Tweedy writes Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml I can't get the address all on one line but it IS there! Should say html at the end. Think i searched for "Rosemary Campbell-Preston" and "speaker" to get it. janet This is from the Home page of that forum gardening-forum.com Promoting gardening discussion. Welcome to gardening-forum.com In an effort to promote discussion and help people find information, gardening-forum.com provides a web based news feed to Usenet newsgroups. Visitors who may not know about Usenet will be able to still find information, ask questions, and participate with newsgroup regulars. Categories: General - General discussion about gardening. Edible - Edible plants and gardens. Bamboo - All about growing bamboo. Orchids - For the orchid gardeners. Roses - Anything to make those roses beautiful. UK Forum - Section for the English. © 2004 gardening-forum.com terms | automatic removal | webmaster | help The rose page - for example - has the following ads on it, which suggest to me that this not some altruistic website: The cheapest place I know of to get Better Homes & Gardens Magazine. This place is cheap! They even have 1 year of Glamour and Maxim at $7.99, Wired at $6.99, and Newsweek subscriptions at an AMAZING $14.99! Wow! Unbelievable! -- Sacha (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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In article , Sacha
writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? There is another section where you ask for your name to be removed and then confirm that by answering an email. IF that works, I'll let you know. Maybe I'll simply get even more spam than I'm getting now. ;-( I will be interested to see if these messages get there....... -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the 'x' to email me) |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Kay Easton We could of course start to post 'special' messages for the 'Forum' full of good advice, like plant your bedding plants now.......dig up your daffs to make sure they are growing Ok............."~ Jenny |
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In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Waste of breath - try explaining what Wales is to the average merkin ;~( (Our resident colonials sre honourable exceptions of course.) -- Rod http://website.lineone.net/%7Erodcraddock/index.html My email address needs weeding. |
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Sacha wrote:
Some of the people who post here are professional and might object to their freely given advice to *URG* being used to benefit others. And I was going to assemble my collected thoughts into a chunky volume to finance my pension.........duh. Ah well best laid plans..................... -- Rod http://website.lineone.net/%7Erodcraddock/index.html My email address needs weeding. |
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Rod wrote: Kay Easton wrote: In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Waste of breath - try explaining what Wales is to the average merkin ;~( (Our resident colonials sre honourable exceptions of course.) Or, if you have nothing better to do and/or are feeling malicious, explain to them exactly how the meaning of the term "United Kingdom" varies with context and how the historical, legal, political (de jure) and political (de facto) boundaries differ. And why the UK (in the largest sense) is a much looser federation than the USA. And see if they believe you :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:56:43 +0100, "JennyC" wrote:
"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Kay Easton We could of course start to post 'special' messages for the 'Forum' full of good advice, like plant your bedding plants now.......dig up your daffs to make sure they are growing Ok............."~ A few useful tips from the Dutch Bollenstreek : Stamping crocus flowers into the ground improves the flavour of the bulbs the following year. Hovermowing snowdrops stops the flowers sapping the strength of the bulbs Always soak your hyacinth bulbs in a mix of organic honey and Heineken for 6 weeks before planting. -- Martin |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:56:43 +0100, "JennyC" wrote:
"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Kay Easton We could of course start to post 'special' messages for the 'Forum' full of good advice, like plant your bedding plants now.......dig up your daffs to make sure they are growing Ok............."~ A few useful tips from the Dutch Bollenstreek : Stamping crocus flowers into the ground improves the flavour of the bulbs the following year. Hovermowing snowdrops stops the flowers sapping the strength of the bulbs Always soak your hyacinth bulbs in a mix of organic honey and Heineken for 6 weeks before planting. -- Martin |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:48:17 +0000, Janet Tweedy
wrote: Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml Dumb. But probably not a violation of copyright. All is avaiilable on Google groups and elsewhere. Rather nasty to try and make hay out of another's field, but you can't cure stupid. As a USAsian, I'd like to note that this sort of thing *isn't* a strictly "American" abuse. |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:48:17 +0000, Janet Tweedy
wrote: Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) I mean to say, did you all know that your names were flying around the US gardening sites.... the address for one thread about speakers is http://www.gardening-forum.com/uk/Sp...ties_192835.ht ml Dumb. But probably not a violation of copyright. All is avaiilable on Google groups and elsewhere. Rather nasty to try and make hay out of another's field, but you can't cure stupid. As a USAsian, I'd like to note that this sort of thing *isn't* a strictly "American" abuse. |
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from Sacha contains these words: Of course, the danger is that some of the advice will be very inappropriate for those who read it in another country and then that forum might have a problem on its hands from irate and failed gardeners! Whoever owns it is unlikely to care about that. It's a bit like rubbish TV. The target audience is ignorant and undemanding; viewer numbers are all important, the quality of the content or its presentation are not. Website audiences of urg are being sold short, but they don't know any better, poor mugs. From what you've said, at least the American website explains urg/usenet in a limited way. Gardenbanter very slyly avoids even that, presumably because the webmaster hopes its members believe this discussion group is part of his website. Janet |
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writes On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:46:35 +0000, Chris French and Helen Johnson wrote: In message , Janet Tweedy writes Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) Permission for what? this is Unsenet, once you have posted a message I'm not sure you can really expect to control what happens to it. Has Goggle asked your permission to archive your messages ? Google respects X-No Archive in headers. This site doesn't. Oh sure, I realise that, but that isn't the same as asking permission is it. -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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from "JennyC" contains these words: "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Kay Easton We could of course start to post 'special' messages for the 'Forum' full of good advice, like plant your bedding plants now.......dig up your daffs to make sure they are growing Ok............."~ Don't forget to plant your seeds the right way up, 'cos you don't want the roots growing out of the surface and the cotyledon(s) making for the antibodes. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Rod contains these words: - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Waste of breath - try explaining what Wales is to the average merkin ;~( (Our resident colonials sre honourable exceptions of course.) Unforgets me of the summer of 1963 when i was a barman in a Perthshire hotel. We had this USian guest who was, er, rather expert at sinking the spiritual stuff. Sgt. Henderson, about 6' 3" of powerfully built Scot came into the bar to 'just remind us' that it was time. Said guest (of the female persuasion) hung her arms round poor Henderson's neck and said: "Aw gee! I do just *ADORE* you DARLING ENGLISH bobbies!" Exit Henderson, scarlet to the roots of his hair. Whenever the poor fellow looked in after that there was a murmur of: "I do just *ADORE*........" -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: Waste of breath - try explaining what Wales is to the average merkin ;~( (Our resident colonials sre honourable exceptions of course.) Or, if you have nothing better to do and/or are feeling malicious, explain to them exactly how the meaning of the term "United Kingdom" varies with context and how the historical, legal, political (de jure) and political (de facto) boundaries differ. And why the UK (in the largest sense) is a much looser federation than the USA. And see if they believe you :-) You, Nick, have an evil mind. I like it. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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X-Trace: 1074999783 master.news.zetnet.net 8568 194.247.47.30 Path: kermit!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!newshosting.com !news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfee d.fjserv.net!peer.news.zetnet.net!master.news.zetn et.net!not-for-mail Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:184706 The message from martin contains these words: A few useful tips from the Dutch Bollenstreek : Stamping crocus flowers into the ground improves the flavour of the bulbs the following year. I thought that was those big bulbs - er - Achtung minen? -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from "JennyC" contains these words: "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Kay Easton We could of course start to post 'special' messages for the 'Forum' full of good advice, like plant your bedding plants now.......dig up your daffs to make sure they are growing Ok............."~ Don't forget to plant your seeds the right way up, 'cos you don't want the roots growing out of the surface and the cotyledon(s) making for the antibodes. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Rod contains these words: - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Waste of breath - try explaining what Wales is to the average merkin ;~( (Our resident colonials sre honourable exceptions of course.) Unforgets me of the summer of 1963 when i was a barman in a Perthshire hotel. We had this USian guest who was, er, rather expert at sinking the spiritual stuff. Sgt. Henderson, about 6' 3" of powerfully built Scot came into the bar to 'just remind us' that it was time. Said guest (of the female persuasion) hung her arms round poor Henderson's neck and said: "Aw gee! I do just *ADORE* you DARLING ENGLISH bobbies!" Exit Henderson, scarlet to the roots of his hair. Whenever the poor fellow looked in after that there was a murmur of: "I do just *ADORE*........" -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: Waste of breath - try explaining what Wales is to the average merkin ;~( (Our resident colonials sre honourable exceptions of course.) Or, if you have nothing better to do and/or are feeling malicious, explain to them exactly how the meaning of the term "United Kingdom" varies with context and how the historical, legal, political (de jure) and political (de facto) boundaries differ. And why the UK (in the largest sense) is a much looser federation than the USA. And see if they believe you :-) You, Nick, have an evil mind. I like it. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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X-Trace: 1074999783 master.news.zetnet.net 8568 194.247.47.30 Path: kermit!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!newshosting.com !news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfee d.fjserv.net!peer.news.zetnet.net!master.news.zetn et.net!not-for-mail Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:184706 The message from martin contains these words: A few useful tips from the Dutch Bollenstreek : Stamping crocus flowers into the ground improves the flavour of the bulbs the following year. I thought that was those big bulbs - er - Achtung minen? -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Frogleg contains these words: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:48:17 +0000, Janet Tweedy wrote: Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this?(snip) Dumb. But probably not a violation of copyright. All is avaiilable on Google groups and elsewhere. That's the point, much of what appears here isn't available on google groups. Many of us choose *not* to have our posts archived, and they are all marked x-no-archive in the header. Rather nasty to try and make hay out of another's field, but you can't cure stupid. As a USAsian, I'd like to note that this sort of thing *isn't* a strictly "American" abuse. Agreed, but when advice intended for UK conditions is stolen by an American website where it won't be appropriate, it's even dumber than when cheapskate UK websites do it. Janet |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, JennyC wrote:
We could of course start to post 'special' messages for the 'Forum' full of good advice, like plant your bedding plants now.......dig up your daffs to make sure they are growing Ok............."~ Make sure you clean your vegetable area in spring by giving it a good dose of Sodium Chlorate just before you plant the seeds...... -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Internet: | writing from | | Fidonet: David Rance 2:252/110 | Caversham, | | BBS: telnet://mesnil.demon.co.uk | Reading, UK | +-------------------------------------------------------+ |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:17:12 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: Unforgets me of the summer of 1963 when i was a barman in a Perthshire hotel. We had this USian guest who was, er, rather expert at sinking the spiritual stuff. snip the story We're not *all* hopeless, you know. Nor are all of you. :-) When I was in London (glorious!) some people sought to 'compliment' me by remarking "you don't *sound* American." I had no clue what they meant. That I didn't sound Texan or Georgian or Bostonian or as if I were from da Bronx? How can people from a an area half the size of California with more regional accents than France has cheeses believe there's such a thing as an 'American' mode of speech? |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:57:40 +0000, Chris French and Helen Johnson
wrote: In message , martin writes On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:46:35 +0000, Chris French and Helen Johnson wrote: In message , Janet Tweedy writes Searching for something about a speaker I can across a forum type web site which purports to be American and yet has OUR messages on it! Does anyone know anymore about this? Sacha has emailed the webmaster to ask if he /she has permission :) Permission for what? this is Unsenet, once you have posted a message I'm not sure you can really expect to control what happens to it. Has Goggle asked your permission to archive your messages ? Google respects X-No Archive in headers. This site doesn't. Oh sure, I realise that, but that isn't the same as asking permission is it. No it's not. I am on your side on this. -- Martin |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:11:36 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from "JennyC" contains these words: "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Sacha writes UK Forum ^^^ - Section for the English. ^^^^^^^ !! That should annoy a lot of people! Do you think we should tell them? Kay Easton We could of course start to post 'special' messages for the 'Forum' full of good advice, like plant your bedding plants now.......dig up your daffs to make sure they are growing Ok............."~ Don't forget to plant your seeds the right way up, 'cos you don't want the roots growing out of the surface and the cotyledon(s) making for the antibodes. How very profound and how few people are aware of this. -- Martin |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:19:42 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: A few useful tips from the Dutch Bollenstreek : Stamping crocus flowers into the ground improves the flavour of the bulbs the following year. I thought that was those big bulbs - er - Achtung minen? as in watch your step, I've just goosed a tulip? -- Martin |
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"martin" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:19:42 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from martin contains these words: A few useful tips from the Dutch Bollenstreek : Stamping crocus flowers into the ground improves the flavour of the bulbs the following year. I thought that was those big bulbs - er - Achtung minen? as in watch your step, I've just goosed a tulip? ROFL |
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from Frogleg contains these words: On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:17:12 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: Unforgets me of the summer of 1963 when i was a barman in a Perthshire hotel. We had this USian guest who was, er, rather expert at sinking the spiritual stuff. snip the story We're not *all* hopeless, you know. Nor are all of you. :-) When I was in London (glorious!) some people sought to 'compliment' me by remarking "you don't *sound* American." I had no clue what they meant. That I didn't sound Texan or Georgian or Bostonian or as if I were from da Bronx? How can people from a an area half the size of California with more regional accents than France has cheeses believe there's such a thing as an 'American' mode of speech? I wasn't suggesting you were all hopeless. We rather enjoyed the company of our guest. At the same time though, there was the a fellow at the other end of the scale. Typical cartoon of everyone's idea of a Texan - everything was bigger and better there. There wasn't any malice in him, he was just a rancher (yes, really a rancher) who was superproud. Nothing wrong with that, but he had a habit of putting his foot in it with an ill-turned phrase. Sitting in the cocktail bar he was chatting with Peter Sharpe, a local farmer. He was telling Peter how he had flown over in his own plane (and he had). Peter was a man of few words, and just listened. He had just come in for an afternoon drink, having been working on the farm all morning, and was dressed accordingly. When he got up to go, our Texan said: "I sure like talking to you local yokels." This amused Peter - he could have bought our guest out several times over. He would charter an air freighter and fill it with his pedigree horses and fly them out to the US. You remember ('sixties or 'seventies) that horrendously expensive bull which wouldn't? That was one of his. He used to round up sheep driving a new Mercedes - and the village blacksmith kept a stock of new sumps in.... Unfortunately it's those examples which spring to mind: you meet the average USian and they're remarkable for being unremarkable. Just remembered a Mayor of Chicago who was over in Scotland and entered Tossing the Caber in the Auchterarder Highland Games. It was a typical cool summer's day and he appeared with a kilt over tracksuit bottoms and was - er - discouraged. He was (to my young eyes) elderly, rather overweight and not too good at the event, but he persevered until he tossed the caber properly, and got a round of tumultuous applause - genuine, generous applause for his determination to succeed, and in no way derisive. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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