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Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote: I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble to transport his yard waste to another property? It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags, which are a major cause of pollution. I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote: "Frogleg" wrote I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but don't you have rubbish collection? Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection, which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often used for block of flats (apts). I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn clippings?! |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:04:19 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: Frogleg wrote I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn clippings?! Our dustbin men won't collect grass cuttings. If you don't want to compost them, you have to take them to a refuse place yourself, and the nearest one is quite a way away. We are in a fairly rural area, and waste services are minimal - no recycling collections, and you have to carry your bin bags out to a collection point rather than the dustmen visiting each house. We don't get bins provided either. Ah. The light dawns. I'm sure there are many different arrangements. My city's services are very generous, considering. The Big Trucks will pick up even things like old rolls of carpet on Garbage Day. About the only things that must be gotten rid of independently are construction waste and various things like paint and oil and garden chemicals. We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than individuals who empty bins or collect bags. The only non-mechanical operation is collection of bagged lawn waste, where a couple of people slit the bags and empty contents into the truck. The city next to mine allows raking leaves to the edge of the road at certain times to be swept/vacuumed up by special equipment. That city offers compost and mulch for sale. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:04:19 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: Frogleg wrote I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn clippings?! Our dustbin men won't collect grass cuttings. If you don't want to compost them, you have to take them to a refuse place yourself, and the nearest one is quite a way away. We are in a fairly rural area, and waste services are minimal - no recycling collections, and you have to carry your bin bags out to a collection point rather than the dustmen visiting each house. We don't get bins provided either. Ah. The light dawns. I'm sure there are many different arrangements. My city's services are very generous, considering. The Big Trucks will pick up even things like old rolls of carpet on Garbage Day. About the only things that must be gotten rid of independently are construction waste and various things like paint and oil and garden chemicals. We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than individuals who empty bins or collect bags. The only non-mechanical operation is collection of bagged lawn waste, where a couple of people slit the bags and empty contents into the truck. The city next to mine allows raking leaves to the edge of the road at certain times to be swept/vacuumed up by special equipment. That city offers compost and mulch for sale. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:04:19 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: Frogleg wrote I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn clippings?! Our dustbin men won't collect grass cuttings. If you don't want to compost them, you have to take them to a refuse place yourself, and the nearest one is quite a way away. We are in a fairly rural area, and waste services are minimal - no recycling collections, and you have to carry your bin bags out to a collection point rather than the dustmen visiting each house. We don't get bins provided either. Ah. The light dawns. I'm sure there are many different arrangements. My city's services are very generous, considering. The Big Trucks will pick up even things like old rolls of carpet on Garbage Day. About the only things that must be gotten rid of independently are construction waste and various things like paint and oil and garden chemicals. We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than individuals who empty bins or collect bags. The only non-mechanical operation is collection of bagged lawn waste, where a couple of people slit the bags and empty contents into the truck. The city next to mine allows raking leaves to the edge of the road at certain times to be swept/vacuumed up by special equipment. That city offers compost and mulch for sale. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:04:19 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: Frogleg wrote I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn clippings?! Our dustbin men won't collect grass cuttings. If you don't want to compost them, you have to take them to a refuse place yourself, and the nearest one is quite a way away. We are in a fairly rural area, and waste services are minimal - no recycling collections, and you have to carry your bin bags out to a collection point rather than the dustmen visiting each house. We don't get bins provided either. Ah. The light dawns. I'm sure there are many different arrangements. My city's services are very generous, considering. The Big Trucks will pick up even things like old rolls of carpet on Garbage Day. About the only things that must be gotten rid of independently are construction waste and various things like paint and oil and garden chemicals. We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than individuals who empty bins or collect bags. The only non-mechanical operation is collection of bagged lawn waste, where a couple of people slit the bags and empty contents into the truck. The city next to mine allows raking leaves to the edge of the road at certain times to be swept/vacuumed up by special equipment. That city offers compost and mulch for sale. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
"Frogleg" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat" wrote: "Frogleg" wrote I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but don't you have rubbish collection? Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection, which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often used for block of flats (apts). I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn clippings?! Apart from anything else, how many people "just happen to have" a load of lawn clippings in the back of the car to dump on impulse?? |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
"Frogleg" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat" wrote: "Frogleg" wrote I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but don't you have rubbish collection? Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection, which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often used for block of flats (apts). I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn clippings?! Apart from anything else, how many people "just happen to have" a load of lawn clippings in the back of the car to dump on impulse?? |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than individuals who empty bins or collect bags. Living in a city has some compensations then! I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than individuals who empty bins or collect bags. Living in a city has some compensations then! I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: Frogleg wrote We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. Let's see: 200 yards is 600 feet; the minimum lot width is 50 feet; so 10 houses in 200 yards is a very good estimate. (Cross-streets take up the extra footage. ) And it's flat, flat with predominantly retangular street layout. Now I'm wondering how (or if) *we* do rural or semi-rural rubbish collection. The rich people along the waterside are more widely separated, of course, but this road is also flat and they put their bins out to the edge of the road same as I do. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. It's not that easy we have to position our bins in a row of other bins, in an exact place marked on a pavement. The same appears to be true in more rural spots, the householders have to deliver their bins to a specified location. -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: Frogleg wrote We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. Let's see: 200 yards is 600 feet; the minimum lot width is 50 feet; so 10 houses in 200 yards is a very good estimate. (Cross-streets take up the extra footage. ) And it's flat, flat with predominantly retangular street layout. Now I'm wondering how (or if) *we* do rural or semi-rural rubbish collection. The rich people along the waterside are more widely separated, of course, but this road is also flat and they put their bins out to the edge of the road same as I do. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: Frogleg wrote We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. Let's see: 200 yards is 600 feet; the minimum lot width is 50 feet; so 10 houses in 200 yards is a very good estimate. (Cross-streets take up the extra footage. ) And it's flat, flat with predominantly retangular street layout. Now I'm wondering how (or if) *we* do rural or semi-rural rubbish collection. The rich people along the waterside are more widely separated, of course, but this road is also flat and they put their bins out to the edge of the road same as I do. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. It's not that easy we have to position our bins in a row of other bins, in an exact place marked on a pavement. The same appears to be true in more rural spots, the householders have to deliver their bins to a specified location. -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. It's not that easy we have to position our bins in a row of other bins, in an exact place marked on a pavement. The same appears to be true in more rural spots, the householders have to deliver their bins to a specified location. -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. It's not that easy we have to position our bins in a row of other bins, in an exact place marked on a pavement. The same appears to be true in more rural spots, the householders have to deliver their bins to a specified location. -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare
wrote: The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. It's not that easy we have to position our bins in a row of other bins, in an exact place marked on a pavement. The same appears to be true in more rural spots, the householders have to deliver their bins to a specified location. -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
Frogleg wrote in
: I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) You do see remarkably large things proceeding along lanes with seemingly about half an inch of clearance either side. And you should see the milk float go up the steep unsurfaced lane by our house! It makes a hell of a noise, but somehow it does it :-) I meant the grabbing arm thing really - it probably relies on the rubbish being roughly the same distance from the truck, and on having a wheely bin handle to grab. And for that you need to be able to wheel your bin out (no steps) and have somewhere flat to leave it. Victoria |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
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from Frogleg contains these words: On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare wrote: Frogleg wrote We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) The Ground Force truck is quite a bit smaller than the usual kind of UK dustbin-trucks. And, let me assure you, the locations where the GF truck goes are nowhere near as restricted as rural lanes in Cornwall (and other places).It's common in rural areas, for householders to have to carry their rubbish down to the nearest place the binmen can get the truck...which might be a mile or more from the house. Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Janet. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
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from Frogleg contains these words: On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000, Victoria Clare wrote: Frogleg wrote We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). Oh, but I've seen the Ground Force van in some mighty tight situations. :-) The Ground Force truck is quite a bit smaller than the usual kind of UK dustbin-trucks. And, let me assure you, the locations where the GF truck goes are nowhere near as restricted as rural lanes in Cornwall (and other places).It's common in rural areas, for householders to have to carry their rubbish down to the nearest place the binmen can get the truck...which might be a mile or more from the house. Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Janet. |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:36:07 GMT, Frogleg wrote:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html Looks like the same as we have in Zuid Holland. There's a letter in the current Dutch Consumer Association magazine from some one complaining, that they used their own container, instead of the one provided. The bin men chucked the container and it's contents in the back of the garbage truck and crushed it. The local bye-law says anything put out that's not in a provided rubbish bin will be treated as rubbish :-) -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:36:07 GMT, Frogleg wrote:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html Looks like the same as we have in Zuid Holland. There's a letter in the current Dutch Consumer Association magazine from some one complaining, that they used their own container, instead of the one provided. The bin men chucked the container and it's contents in the back of the garbage truck and crushed it. The local bye-law says anything put out that's not in a provided rubbish bin will be treated as rubbish :-) -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:36:07 GMT, Frogleg wrote:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html Looks like the same as we have in Zuid Holland. There's a letter in the current Dutch Consumer Association magazine from some one complaining, that they used their own container, instead of the one provided. The bin men chucked the container and it's contents in the back of the garbage truck and crushed it. The local bye-law says anything put out that's not in a provided rubbish bin will be treated as rubbish :-) -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:36:07 GMT, Frogleg wrote:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:57:38 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote: Some areas of the UK do have the kind of trucks that grab a wheely-bin and empty it, but the ones I've seen are never operated by one person alone. There's a driver, plus a team of fetchers who move the bins to the grab and remove them afterwards. Ah. That's what we had 'til a few years ago. Not than anyone cares, but here's a picture of the local arrangement. http://www.hampton.va.us/publicworks...r_garbage.html Looks like the same as we have in Zuid Holland. There's a letter in the current Dutch Consumer Association magazine from some one complaining, that they used their own container, instead of the one provided. The bin men chucked the container and it's contents in the back of the garbage truck and crushed it. The local bye-law says anything put out that's not in a provided rubbish bin will be treated as rubbish :-) -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
In article , Victoria Clare
writes: Subject: Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket From: Victoria Clare Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:22:34 +0000 Frogleg wrote in : We put the wheely bins out at the curb, and they're collected by 1-man trucks with automatic grabbing arms, rather than individuals who empty bins or collect bags. Living in a city has some compensations then! I don't think that would work in our narrow, steep and winding cornish lanes, where every house is a different distance from the road, and there is certainly no curb (or for that matter, pavement). The houses are quite widely separated too, and I think one reason the collection service is so limited is that running collection services over a long distance for each house is relatively expensive. Your grabbing trucks might be able to pick up rubbish for 10 houses in, say 200 yards : our binmen might have to travel half a mile or more to do the same number of houses. Victoria I presume that you pay the same council tax as the more urban residents of your council area. Don't make your council's case for them. Otherwise you may find that somebody suggests that because collections in the country are more expensive then they show be restricted in some way. Peter Bridge |
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
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