Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket

wince?

http://www.seriousaboutnews.co.uk/bo...&storyID=12596
DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
£600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.

The Environment Agency prosecuted Mr Angel using £1,470 of taxpayers
money was used to secure a conviction.

Bedford magistrates gave Mr Angel a conditional discharge for 12
months and ordered to him pay £600 costs.

Officers from the Environment Agency did not think the magistrates had
been severe enough as they were hoping for a heavier penalty such as a
fine. After the sentence investigating officer Ian Favell said: "We
need to make it clear to members of the public that fly-tipping is not
acceptable and we will prosecute. Fly-tipping costs the taxpayer
thousands of pounds a year."

The defence said questions should be raised about how appropriate a
case costing £1,470 is when the waste involved is biodegradable.
Defence solicitor Daniel Siong described the waste dumped as
'trivial'. He went on to point out that the offence had been
impulsive. He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

Leaving court Mr Angel said: "At the end of the day it's the court's
decision but I'm not happy with it."

Magistrate, Robert Balchin, said: "We take a dim view of fly-tipping.
When it occurs it attracts further fly-tipping."

--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

martin wrote:
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket

wince?

http://www.seriousaboutnews.co.uk/bo...&storyID=12596
DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
£600 bill.


Good. Let's hope they catch many more.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
£600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP

He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
£600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP

He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
£600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP

He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
£600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP

He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| £600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| £600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| £600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| £600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

/snip/

| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.

I concur. I would have saved him the fine and accepted the contents on
my compost heap if they were as advertised.

But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

/snip/

| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.

I concur. I would have saved him the fine and accepted the contents on
my compost heap if they were as advertised.

But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades writes:
|
| But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
| which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the local
tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on impulse.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

/snip/

| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.

I concur. I would have saved him the fine and accepted the contents on
my compost heap if they were as advertised.

But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

/snip/

| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.

I concur. I would have saved him the fine and accepted the contents on
my compost heap if they were as advertised.

But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

".........Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the
local tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on
impulse..........."

If his council has the facilities to take green waste.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

".........Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the
local tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on
impulse..........."

If his council has the facilities to take green waste.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades writes:
|
| But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
| which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the local
tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on impulse.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

".........Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the
local tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on
impulse..........."

If his council has the facilities to take green waste.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades writes:
|
| But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
| which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the local
tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on impulse.

Well, we haven't the full trial transcript, so i doubt if we shall ever know.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades writes:
|
| But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
| which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the local
tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on impulse.

Well, we haven't the full trial transcript, so i doubt if we shall ever know.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next (or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting tips), and I hate them.

They should be birched, put in prison for twenty years, birched again, then hung :)

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:


They should be birched, put in prison for twenty years, birched again,
then hung :)

So much for your entertainment, now what about a suitable punishment?
:-)
--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

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The message m
from AlanWT contains these words:
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
[b]The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

=blue]
But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.
[/color]

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

They should be birched, put in prison for twenty years, birched again,
then hung :)

Please be careful of your attributions. I didn't write a word of what
you quoted.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:


They should be birched, put in prison for twenty years, birched again,
then hung :)

So much for your entertainment, now what about a suitable punishment?
:-)
--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

One black bin for general trash, a brown one for garden waste. Bins
emptied alternate weeks.
Bottles have to be taken to bottle banks, waste paper is collected
once a week and heavy rubbish collected on request.

Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

Most councils also have a recyclables collection which may or may not
include green waste. It also may or may not include glass, for safety
reasons. What may be included may also change according to current market
conditions for recycling the specific product. Newspapers usually are
included, card is often not. Many places have a Christmas tree shredding
service in the new year.

These collections are financed through council tax, which is itself the
subject of a lot of argument right now, as was the community charge (poll
tax) before it, and the rates before that.

In addition, most areas have domestic waste disposal sites where one may
take items too big for the regular collection, or green waste etc. Also old
engine oil etc. Many of these sites also sell of a lot of the second-hand
stuff.

Steve

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

One black bin for general trash, a brown one for garden waste. Bins
emptied alternate weeks.
Bottles have to be taken to bottle banks, waste paper is collected
once a week and heavy rubbish collected on request.

Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

Most councils also have a recyclables collection which may or may not
include green waste. It also may or may not include glass, for safety
reasons. What may be included may also change according to current market
conditions for recycling the specific product. Newspapers usually are
included, card is often not. Many places have a Christmas tree shredding
service in the new year.

These collections are financed through council tax, which is itself the
subject of a lot of argument right now, as was the community charge (poll
tax) before it, and the rates before that.

In addition, most areas have domestic waste disposal sites where one may
take items too big for the regular collection, or green waste etc. Also old
engine oil etc. Many of these sites also sell of a lot of the second-hand
stuff.

Steve

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

One black bin for general trash, a brown one for garden waste. Bins
emptied alternate weeks.
Bottles have to be taken to bottle banks, waste paper is collected
once a week and heavy rubbish collected on request.

Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

--

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit;
Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:31:37 GMT, AlanWT
wrote:

OK, so it was biodegradable stuff this time. But what about the next
(or indeed, previous) occasion when he might have builders rubble or
similar to get rid of. There are a lot of fly tippers in the area in
which I live (despite the area being well provided with composting
tips), and I hate them.

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property? Rules and methods
differ from place to place here (US). My city gives each home a large
(90 gallon) plastic bin for regular trash, and a slightly smaller one
for recycling (of paper, glass, plastic, & metal). Lawn clippings and
leaves are to be bagged in clear plastic and left at the curb (kerb?).
Managable piles of small branches, etc. may also be left at the curb
for pickup. We are billed semi-monthly for this.

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

Most councils also have a recyclables collection which may or may not
include green waste. It also may or may not include glass, for safety
reasons. What may be included may also change according to current market
conditions for recycling the specific product. Newspapers usually are
included, card is often not. Many places have a Christmas tree shredding
service in the new year.

These collections are financed through council tax, which is itself the
subject of a lot of argument right now, as was the community charge (poll
tax) before it, and the rates before that.

In addition, most areas have domestic waste disposal sites where one may
take items too big for the regular collection, or green waste etc. Also old
engine oil etc. Many of these sites also sell of a lot of the second-hand
stuff.

Steve

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:188778

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property?

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff
goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:188778

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property?

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff
goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort.

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:

"Frogleg" wrote

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection?

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the
same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But
still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on
another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal
services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of
discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a
per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real
expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care
of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:25:38 -0000, "shazzbat"
wrote:

"Frogleg" wrote

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection?

Yes it is what you call illegal dumping, but the situation in UK is very
inconsistent. Different councils have their own policy about what can or
cannot be collected with the weekly (in my area) domestic waste collection,
which may be by means of bin bags, wheely bins or bulk bins which are often
used for block of flats (apts).

I just looked up images of "wheely bins" and they look pretty much the
same ('though mine are a bit shorter and fatter) as my waste bins. But
still, why would anyone load a bin into their car/truck to dump on
another's property? Our trash pickup was a 'free' part of municipal
services until 10-15 yrs ago. When they changed, there was a lot of
discussion about charging for licensed rubbish bags and/or levying a
per-bag charge. The problem of fly-tipping was a very real
expectation. However, the bins and flat-rate fee pretty much took care
of that. I can understand dumping a sofa clandestinely, but lawn
clippings?!

Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket
 

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:188778

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:02:57 +0100, martin wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:51:22 GMT, Frogleg wrote:

I take it that fly-tipping is what we call 'illegal dumping', but
don't you have rubbish collection? Why would someone take the trouble
to transport his yard waste to another property?

It's similar here in the Netherlands, but not the clear plastic bags,
which are a major cause of pollution.

I've watched them pick these up. They slit the bags so the green stuff
goes into the truck, and stuff the bags into a box of some sort.