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Old 16-02-2004, 11:27 PM
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Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket

wince?

http://www.seriousaboutnews.co.uk/bo...&storyID=12596
DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.

The Environment Agency prosecuted Mr Angel using 1,470 of taxpayers
money was used to secure a conviction.

Bedford magistrates gave Mr Angel a conditional discharge for 12
months and ordered to him pay 600 costs.

Officers from the Environment Agency did not think the magistrates had
been severe enough as they were hoping for a heavier penalty such as a
fine. After the sentence investigating officer Ian Favell said: "We
need to make it clear to members of the public that fly-tipping is not
acceptable and we will prosecute. Fly-tipping costs the taxpayer
thousands of pounds a year."

The defence said questions should be raised about how appropriate a
case costing 1,470 is when the waste involved is biodegradable.
Defence solicitor Daniel Siong described the waste dumped as
'trivial'. He went on to point out that the offence had been
impulsive. He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

Leaving court Mr Angel said: "At the end of the day it's the court's
decision but I'm not happy with it."

Magistrate, Robert Balchin, said: "We take a dim view of fly-tipping.
When it occurs it attracts further fly-tipping."

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Old 17-02-2004, 09:53 AM
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martin wrote:
Grass fly-tipper hit hard in pocket

wince?

http://www.seriousaboutnews.co.uk/bo...&storyID=12596
DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
600 bill.


Good. Let's hope they catch many more.

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Old 17-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP


He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve





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Old 17-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP


He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve





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Old 17-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP


He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve







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Old 17-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
600 bill.

Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
SNIP


He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."

So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
wheely bin full of green waste in the car?

*A WHEELY BIN* ?

And the magistrates swallowed this?

Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Steve





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Old 17-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| 600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 17-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| 600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 17-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| 600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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In article ,
"shazzbat" writes:
|
| DUMPING grass in a field led to a man getting a criminal record and a
| 600 bill.
|
| Brian Angel, of Woodland Drive, Kettering, pleaded guilty to
| fly-tipping on land off the A428 near Turvey on April 18, 2003. Mr
| Angel was accused of emptying a wheely bin full of grass and hedge
| cuttings on to land at Moat Farm.
|
| He said: "Mr Angel was travelling with his two sons to his
| sisters in Marston Moretaine to deliver Easter eggs. He pulled into a
| lay by on the A428 so that his two-year-old son could go to the
| lavatory. There is no suggestion that the act was premeditated."
|
| So let me get this straight. This guy was driving to his sisters with his
| two sons in the car to deliver Easter eggs and just happened to have a
| wheely bin full of green waste in the car?
|
| *A WHEELY BIN* ?
|
| And the magistrates swallowed this?
|
| Have I slipped into a parallel universe or something?

Well, yes, the world flipped its lid some time ago :-)

That was the defence bullshitting, and I doubt that the magistrates
bought it for a second.

But the other point made by the defence is a good one. Dumping
such material onto farmland is the least important form of fly
tipping - certainly less serious than throwing a plastic container
out of a car window. It becomes serious only when done on an
industrial scale.

The ideal penalty for that offender would have assigned him to
collecting non-degradable rubbish from that farm and others, say
10 wheelie-bins full.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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Old 17-02-2004, 06:08 PM
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In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades writes:
|
| But I do agree that the presence of the wheelie bin pointed to intent,
| which is a much more serious matter than impulse.

Yes but, to be fair, he might have intended to take it to the local
tip (a.k.a. recycling centre), and only fly tipped on impulse.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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