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I'm wondering if you've considered fiberoptics for your garden? The nice thing is that there is little worry about weather damaging the source and the new tips for FO are extremely versitile and give off attractive light... very low energy cost, big-time control over effect and placement... http://www.luciferlighting.com/fiberoptics.htm gives you an idea of some of the stuff that's available... http://www.advancedlighting.com has some good product info... just to get you started. google search turns up a vast number of good sites to check out as well... |
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"Chris and Patsy .plus.com" News@oddys wrote in message ... .... My favourite light for something like your terrace is a low energy floodlamp, made for commercial sign illumination, which I buy from Newey & Eyre. They use 2 x 9W (or 4 x 9W, also 4 x 9W with an integral photocell) lamps in a floodlight format, with very good cut-off characteristics, so you don't get light spill where you don't want it. Mounted below eye level, one of those washes the ground with light, which allows you to see to walk over quite a large area. Mounted high, you get can a good area illumination from one. Colin I'm also looking for some lighting like this, do you know the manufacturer ?, I can't find a Newey & Eyre website (that works) ? The brand name is their own - Newlec. The part number for the 2 x 9W lamp with a knuckle joint mounting is NL3802. That mounting has an M20 female thread and is ideal if you can stick a bit of steel conduit through a wall, with the thread protruding to screw it onto. The cables then enter the fitting through the conduit. The part number for the 4 x 9W with photocell and wall mounting bracket is NL3806. That type has a bit of flex coming out of the body. I would expect most electrical wholesalers to do something similar. I don't have the boxes for any other versions to hand. I gave up trying to use the Newey & Eyre website long ago. Even as a registered user, I can't often get it to work. Colin Bignell |
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"Chris and Patsy .plus.com" News@oddys wrote in message ... .... My favourite light for something like your terrace is a low energy floodlamp, made for commercial sign illumination, which I buy from Newey & Eyre. They use 2 x 9W (or 4 x 9W, also 4 x 9W with an integral photocell) lamps in a floodlight format, with very good cut-off characteristics, so you don't get light spill where you don't want it. Mounted below eye level, one of those washes the ground with light, which allows you to see to walk over quite a large area. Mounted high, you get can a good area illumination from one. Colin I'm also looking for some lighting like this, do you know the manufacturer ?, I can't find a Newey & Eyre website (that works) ? The brand name is their own - Newlec. The part number for the 2 x 9W lamp with a knuckle joint mounting is NL3802. That mounting has an M20 female thread and is ideal if you can stick a bit of steel conduit through a wall, with the thread protruding to screw it onto. The cables then enter the fitting through the conduit. The part number for the 4 x 9W with photocell and wall mounting bracket is NL3806. That type has a bit of flex coming out of the body. I would expect most electrical wholesalers to do something similar. I don't have the boxes for any other versions to hand. I gave up trying to use the Newey & Eyre website long ago. Even as a registered user, I can't often get it to work. Colin Bignell |
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? If you do install all that Blackpool stuff, I hope your neighbours have, and can aim with, catapults. Franz |
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? If you do install all that Blackpool stuff, I hope your neighbours have, and can aim with, catapults. Franz |
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from martin contains these words: On 5 Mar 2004 12:15:11 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote in message ... Have you thought about those individual solar-powered units? Most garden centres and many DIY shops stock them. They give enough light to see the paths by, and any hedgehogs, cats or whatnot, waiting to trip you up. Light pollution isn't an issue with these.... I gather that light isnt much of an issue with them either. Glow worms have been known to attempt to mate with them. Well, glow-worms are not exactly bright..... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from martin contains these words: On 5 Mar 2004 12:15:11 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote in message ... Have you thought about those individual solar-powered units? Most garden centres and many DIY shops stock them. They give enough light to see the paths by, and any hedgehogs, cats or whatnot, waiting to trip you up. Light pollution isn't an issue with these.... I gather that light isnt much of an issue with them either. Glow worms have been known to attempt to mate with them. Well, glow-worms are not exactly bright..... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 12:16:05 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: On 5 Mar 2004 12:15:11 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote in message ... Have you thought about those individual solar-powered units? Most garden centres and many DIY shops stock them. They give enough light to see the paths by, and any hedgehogs, cats or whatnot, waiting to trip you up. Light pollution isn't an issue with these.... I gather that light isnt much of an issue with them either. Glow worms have been known to attempt to mate with them. Well, glow-worms are not exactly bright..... .... exactly :-) -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 12:16:05 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: On 5 Mar 2004 12:15:11 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote in message ... Have you thought about those individual solar-powered units? Most garden centres and many DIY shops stock them. They give enough light to see the paths by, and any hedgehogs, cats or whatnot, waiting to trip you up. Light pollution isn't an issue with these.... I gather that light isnt much of an issue with them either. Glow worms have been known to attempt to mate with them. Well, glow-worms are not exactly bright..... .... exactly :-) -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 12:16:05 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from martin contains these words: On 5 Mar 2004 12:15:11 -0800, (N. Thornton) wrote: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote in message ... Have you thought about those individual solar-powered units? Most garden centres and many DIY shops stock them. They give enough light to see the paths by, and any hedgehogs, cats or whatnot, waiting to trip you up. Light pollution isn't an issue with these.... I gather that light isnt much of an issue with them either. Glow worms have been known to attempt to mate with them. Well, glow-worms are not exactly bright..... .... exactly :-) -- Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad |
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:28:30 -0000, "Neil Jones"
wrote: I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? Lighting up your garden in rural areas might be considered a bit 'townie'. In London garden lighting comes for free.... cheers, Pete |
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:28:30 -0000, "Neil Jones"
wrote: I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? Lighting up your garden in rural areas might be considered a bit 'townie'. In London garden lighting comes for free.... cheers, Pete |
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In message , Neil Jones
writes I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. You should also try sci.engr.lighting for a more technical view. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. Provided it is cloudy and midsummer you are not going to upset too many astronomers, but you may confuse a few glow worms. On clear nights it would be better not to use exterior lights in a truly dark rural setting. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? If possible in rural areas use full cut-off lighting (no light goes above the horizontal) and for maximum light and minimum power consumption yellow low pressure sodium lamps. HPS are next in line for efficiency and then compact fluorescents come a poor third. Use enough light to do the task and no more. There are some very nice folded mirror designs that put light exclusively down onto a footpath with almost no glare or stray light. And at the other extreme there are crass dazzling 300W parabolic quartz-halogen insecurity lamps that flash on and off all night as cats and foxes go by. Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Mains is probably easier provided it is installed by a competent electrician. Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? Depends what you do. Most of my rural neighbours have some form of exterior lighting for working outside after dark (and so do I). Apart from at Christmas none of us have any accent lighting on the trees though. Regards, -- Martin Brown |
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In message , Neil Jones
writes I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. You should also try sci.engr.lighting for a more technical view. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. Provided it is cloudy and midsummer you are not going to upset too many astronomers, but you may confuse a few glow worms. On clear nights it would be better not to use exterior lights in a truly dark rural setting. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? If possible in rural areas use full cut-off lighting (no light goes above the horizontal) and for maximum light and minimum power consumption yellow low pressure sodium lamps. HPS are next in line for efficiency and then compact fluorescents come a poor third. Use enough light to do the task and no more. There are some very nice folded mirror designs that put light exclusively down onto a footpath with almost no glare or stray light. And at the other extreme there are crass dazzling 300W parabolic quartz-halogen insecurity lamps that flash on and off all night as cats and foxes go by. Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Mains is probably easier provided it is installed by a competent electrician. Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? Depends what you do. Most of my rural neighbours have some form of exterior lighting for working outside after dark (and so do I). Apart from at Christmas none of us have any accent lighting on the trees though. Regards, -- Martin Brown |
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In message , Neil Jones
writes I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. You should also try sci.engr.lighting for a more technical view. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. Provided it is cloudy and midsummer you are not going to upset too many astronomers, but you may confuse a few glow worms. On clear nights it would be better not to use exterior lights in a truly dark rural setting. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? If possible in rural areas use full cut-off lighting (no light goes above the horizontal) and for maximum light and minimum power consumption yellow low pressure sodium lamps. HPS are next in line for efficiency and then compact fluorescents come a poor third. Use enough light to do the task and no more. There are some very nice folded mirror designs that put light exclusively down onto a footpath with almost no glare or stray light. And at the other extreme there are crass dazzling 300W parabolic quartz-halogen insecurity lamps that flash on and off all night as cats and foxes go by. Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Mains is probably easier provided it is installed by a competent electrician. Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? Depends what you do. Most of my rural neighbours have some form of exterior lighting for working outside after dark (and so do I). Apart from at Christmas none of us have any accent lighting on the trees though. Regards, -- Martin Brown |
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In message , Neil Jones
writes I've cross posted this to uk.rec.gardening and uk.d-i-y because I believe it's on topic for both groups. You should also try sci.engr.lighting for a more technical view. I'm redesigning my back garden at the moment and my thoughts have turned to lighting. I would like to illuminate the terrace which is just to the rear of the house, but also I'm considering some path lighting and maybe some accent lighting to highlight specimen trees, planting groups etc. This would mainly be for use during the summer but occasionally we would switch the lights on at other times, for effect. Provided it is cloudy and midsummer you are not going to upset too many astronomers, but you may confuse a few glow worms. On clear nights it would be better not to use exterior lights in a truly dark rural setting. I live in a rural village so I'm conscious of light pollution and don't really want to brighten the night sky which could affect other locals. I'll discuss my plans with my neighbours before I go ahead but I have a number of questions initially:- What is best practice regarding this kind of lighting? If possible in rural areas use full cut-off lighting (no light goes above the horizontal) and for maximum light and minimum power consumption yellow low pressure sodium lamps. HPS are next in line for efficiency and then compact fluorescents come a poor third. Use enough light to do the task and no more. There are some very nice folded mirror designs that put light exclusively down onto a footpath with almost no glare or stray light. And at the other extreme there are crass dazzling 300W parabolic quartz-halogen insecurity lamps that flash on and off all night as cats and foxes go by. Mains voltage, low voltage or a mixture? Mains is probably easier provided it is installed by a competent electrician. Is this a daft idea and I should forget about it? Depends what you do. Most of my rural neighbours have some form of exterior lighting for working outside after dark (and so do I). Apart from at Christmas none of us have any accent lighting on the trees though. Regards, -- Martin Brown |
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Many thanks to all - lots of good points to consider. regards Neil |
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Many thanks to all - lots of good points to consider. regards Neil |
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