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Old 23-03-2004, 04:42 PM
jane
 
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Default FWD: RESULT : Create uk.rec.gardening.allotments FAILS 12:26

This just appeared on u.n.n.c. (this forward isn't crossposted)

My thanks to Pedt for running the vote.

jane


On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:45:08 +0000, Pedt Scragg
wrote:

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~RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES
~
~Summary: Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
~
~Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments FAILS 12:26
~
~NO beat YES by 14 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES
~votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS.
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 16th March 2004.
~
~Proponent : Gary Poston gary (at) torbay.eclipse.co.uk
~Votetaker : Pedt Scragg xurga-query (at) dontspame.com
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~Distribution:
~
~uk.net.news.announce
~uk.net.news.config
~uk.rec.gardening
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~The Results:
~
~The results follow below in the following order:
~
~1) Summary of Mail Received During the Voting Period
~2) Results
~3) Individual Vote Details
~4) Votetakers Comments
~5) Voting and Appeal Guidelines
~6) Rationale
~7) Newsgroups Line
~8) Proposed Charter
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~SUMMARY OF MAIL RECEIVED DURING THE VOTING PERIOD
~
~ 61 emails were received at the ballot request address:
~
~ 52 : Ballot requests
~ 6 : Viruses/worms
~ 1 : Query from a voter
~ 1 : Test by the votetaker
~ 1 : Test by a voter (see Votetaker comments)
~
~
~ 56 emails were received at the vote submission address:
~
~ 38 : Valid votes
~ 2 : Votes later resubmitted (see Votetaker comments)
~ 1 : Valid vote superseded by a later vote
~ 1 : Invalid vote (see Votetaker comments)
~ 13 : Votetaker queries and subsequent correspondence
~ 1 : Test by the Votetaker
~
~
~ 20 emails were received at the vote query address:
~
~ 18 : Queries and subsequent correspondence
~ 2 : Junk/viruses/worms.
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~RESULTS:
~
~Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gardening.allotments
~
~ YES : 12 votes
~ NO : 26 votes
~ Total : 38 votes
~
~NO beat YES by 14 votes. For group passage, there must be 12 more YES
~votes than NO votes. Accordingly, the proposal FAILS.
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS
~
~Voted Yes - 12 votes
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~Chris Norton chris@norton?zetnet@co@uk YES
~Dan Keeley dan?dankeeley@co@uk YES
~Dangerous sjalldred?tiscali@co@uk YES
~David Uri daviduri?bigfoot@com YES
~Graham Carr gpcarr?ntlworld@com YES
~Martin Sykes martin?sykesm@globalnet@co@uk YES
~Melanie McCluskey melanie-mccluskey?tesco@net YES
~Neil Ellwood carl@ellwood2?btinternet@com YES
~Robert mail?burnley27@fsnet@co@uk YES
~Shazzbat shservices?shservices@fsnet@co@uk YES
~The Barsteward thebarsteward?freeuk@com YES
~Whingin' Pom whinginpom?donotreply@com YES
~
~
~Voted No - 26 votes
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~Alan R Williams alanrw?cs@man@ac@uk NO
~Bazza bazzas?btinternet@com NO
~Chris French ngvote?familyfrench@co@uk NO
~Dave Mason xurga?sarnie@org@uk NO
~David WE. Roberts wibble?talk21@com NO
~Derek Turner frderek?cesmail@com NO
~Franz Heymann franz@heyman?btopenworld@com NO
~Jane jane?moonrose@demon@co@uk NO
~Janet Baraclough janet@and@john?zetnet@co@uk NO
~John Rye jrye?ukonline@co@uk NO
~Jon Rouse jon?timewarp@demon@co@uk NO
~Jon Smith basketballjones?lycos@co@uk NO
~Martinp martinp?wanadoo@nl NO
~Max Wright maxwright?wys-systems@demon#co#uk NO
~Neil Jones Neil@Jones?t-mi@com NO
~Pete Fenelon pete?fenelon@com NO
~Peter Smyth psmyth?ukf@net NO
~Rhiannon S mddestiny?aol@com NO
~Richard Ashton {R}?semolina@org NO
~Robert Harvey bobharvey?europe@com NO
~RogerH rogerh?clara@co@uk NO
~Sally Thompson sally@thompson?btinternet@com NO
~Stephen Gower socks-netnews?earth@li NO
~Stuart Baldwin stuart?boxatrix@co@uk NO
~Tony Anson horrid@squeak?zetnet@co@uk NO
~Wm tcnw61?tarrcity@demon@co@uk NO
~
~
~Invalid - 1 vote
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~Mike Harvey harveytm?lineone@net
~(See Votetaker comments)
~
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~Votetaker Comments:
~
~Very straightforward to count the vote as nearly all voters followed the
~instructions in the Ballot Paper and queries by the votetaker were, with
~one exception, answered quickly and helpfully by the voter. Thank you.
~
~The vote was a little less straightforward in other respects. A few
~voters suffered email delays after Ballot Papers or Acknowledgements
~were issued and generated some of the correspondence noted in the
~summary - one voter being unfortunate enough to suffer delays to both.
~
~The test ballot request, noted under email received, was due to a voter
~asking someone to see if the ballot request address was working, rather
~than contacting the Votetaker, after a Ballot Paper was requested to a
~spamtrapped address. Voters are reminded that you need to use a working
~email address for the reply to receive Ballot Papers or if contacting
~the Votetaker.
~
~Two ballot papers were requested to be resubmitted for technical
~reasons. Both voters submitted valid votes at the 2nd attempt.
~
~Invalid vote: The one exception mentioned in the initial paragraph of
~these comments was "Mike Harvey" who failed to make any reply to a query
~by the Votetaker. There was no alternative other than to disallow the
~vote.
~
~The Votetaker was pleasantly surprised that the email address for this
~vote remained remarkably junk and virus/worm free.
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting.
~UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf
~of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties.
~
~The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted
~regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL:
~
~http://www.usenet.org.uk/voting.html
~
~The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/
~
~There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to
~uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to
~control at usenet.org.uk
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~RATIONALE:
~
~I have searched to find many allotment web sites and found that if
~this group was opened it would allow all allotment (and would be)
~allotment holders to to exchange views in one convenient place.
~This in turn would give valued exchange of views by every visitor.
~To also pick up tips and sometimes tricks into allotment gardening.
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~NEWSGROUPS LINE
~
~uk.rec.gardening.allotments Allotments holders group
~
~- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
~
~PROPOSED CHARTER: uk.rec.gardening.allotments
~
~To discuss allotment issues, planting times, tips on gardening, pest
~controls and general allotment posts.
~
~Advertising
~
~Advertising is forbidden
~
~Binaries & Formatting
~
~Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
~forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which
~a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP)
~may be used where authentication is important and should be as
~short as possible.
~
~Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
~formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some
~common newsreaders comply with this, read
~http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html.
~
~Warning. Anyone posting contrary to this charter may be reported to
~their "postmaster" and/or Service Provider.
~
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