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Flavour and tomatoes
Ha, just the group I need.
I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. But I have no clue about where to start looking. TIA -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) |
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Hi,
I tried the RHS below--found what I wanted with Medwins, also below (llanor). http://www.llanor.fsnet.co.uk/ http://www.rhs.org.uk/research/agm.asp "Howard" wrote in message ... Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. But I have no clue about where to start looking. TIA -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) |
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Howard wrote: Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. But I have no clue about where to start looking. There are a fair number of flavoursome varieties sold by normal seed merchants - do a Web search for Tucker's, Thompson and Morgan, and look out for Unwins and so on. You can get the unusual varieties from Henry Doubleday, but you have to join the association (not a major problem!) However, only about a third of the flavour is due to the variety. Another third is not watering as much as commercial growers do, and the last third is maximising the amount of sunlight. Not a lot that you can do about the last in the UK :-( Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... There are a fair number of flavoursome varieties sold by normal seed merchants - do a Web search for Tucker's, Thompson and Morgan, and look out for Unwins and so on. You can get the unusual varieties from Henry Doubleday, but you have to join the association (not a major problem!) I ordered seven varieties noted for flavour from Chase (HDRA), they arrived some time later than my visa was debited and I sowed them the same day in exactly the same way as I always do, in the greenhouse. That was two weeks ago. The lettuce, cabbage and sprouts have germinated but not the tomatoes. I'm even more disgruntled now, the seeds were expensive and there weren't many. Grrrrrrrrr Mary |
Flavour and tomatoes
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... There are a fair number of flavoursome varieties sold by normal seed merchants - do a Web search for Tucker's, Thompson and Morgan, and look out for Unwins and so on. You can get the unusual varieties from Henry Doubleday, but you have to join the association (not a major problem!) I ordered seven varieties noted for flavour from Chase (HDRA), they arrived some time later than my visa was debited and I sowed them the same day in exactly the same way as I always do, in the greenhouse. That was two weeks ago. The lettuce, cabbage and sprouts have germinated but not the tomatoes. I'm even more disgruntled now, the seeds were expensive and there weren't many. Grrrrrrrrr Mary |
Flavour and tomatoes
"Howard" wrote in message ... Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. But I have no clue about where to start looking. TIA -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) Steve |
Flavour and tomatoes
"Howard" wrote in message ... Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. But I have no clue about where to start looking. TIA -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) Steve |
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The message
from Howard contains these words: Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. But I have no clue about where to start looking. Ailsa Craig, Shirley, Alicante. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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"shazzbat" wrote in message ... Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) Steve I had a James Commodore, then a Triumph Cub, then a pre-unit Bonnie ... and then a husband who didn't approve :( |
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"shazzbat" wrote in message ... Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) Steve I had a James Commodore, then a Triumph Cub, then a pre-unit Bonnie ... and then a husband who didn't approve :( |
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Cheery tomatoes are always the best for flavour although not big enough for
sandwiches. "Howard" wrote in message ... Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. |
Flavour and tomatoes
Cheery tomatoes are always the best for flavour although not big enough for
sandwiches. "Howard" wrote in message ... Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. |
Flavour and tomatoes
Sue da Nimm wrote:
"shazzbat" wrote in message ... Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? and then a husband who didn't approve :( shame! However Beloved will not happily join me on the bike, we had a car do a U-turn in front of us. Kids were nearly orphaned then and there! -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) |
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David Hyams wrote:
Cheery tomatoes are always the best for flavour although not big enough for sandwiches. Cherry tomatoes, on the other hand, are great in quick pastas. -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) |
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Howard wrote:
Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. But I have no clue about where to start looking. TIA Last summer we tried Cherokee Purple, from the HDRA seed library (no problems with delivery or germination). A sort of marmande-type but not quite so big. Superb flavour although at first we thought they were rotting - when ripe they tend to develop quite a strong purple tinge which looks a little as though they have been caught by a frost and are starting to rot. Survived last summer with minimal watering. Personally, I've never found any tomatoes in UK shops which have any decent taste and only eat those we grow ourselves. Commercially produced tomatoes really are tasteless and watery. -- Larry Stoter |
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"Sue da Nimm" . wrote in message ... "shazzbat" wrote in message ... Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) Steve I had a James Commodore, then a Triumph Cub, then a pre-unit Bonnie ... and then a husband who didn't approve :( I had a Rudge when I was eight then a build when I was eighteen then it was stolen and I couldn't race any more then a Carlton (passed on) then we went to tandems because of sidecars, seats and trailers - I rode a Curly Hetchins tandem solo when I was pregnant because I couldn't ride fixed wheel. The bike I have at the moment doesn't have a name, well it might but I haven't ridden it since my bc surgery. I'd like to ... Mary |
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Howard wrote: Ha, just the group I need. I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce deliciously flavoured tomatoes. No matter what the variety, the one vital ingredient guaranteed to tantalise the taste buds is ..... liquid sheep purl manure, colloquially referred to in days of yore as 'sheep dip.' But I have no clue about where to start looking. Find a sheep and you won't have to look far. ;-) -- ned |
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Larry Stoter wrote:
Howard wrote: Ha, just the group I need. decent taste and only eat those we grow ourselves. Commercially produced tomatoes really are tasteless and watery. just the reason for my enquiry! -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) |
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I don't know how motor bikes got into this, but my first was a 197 James
then a 350 AJS then a 350 Matchless. And to think that if I had put a side car on the Matchless then the Comp insurance would have dropped 50% from £3.15s to 37/6p per year. Then went over to an old Morris 8 finally got rid of that when it wanted another engine and I didn't think it was worth paying £25.00 for the local garage to get an engine from the scrap yard, strip it down, rebuild and fit it. Now regarding Tomatoes with flavour, half the secrete is not to over feed and over water them, grow them hard and you will have smaller, acid sweet tomatoes. But if you have stomach problems you will be better off with Plumb tomatoes, they have a much lower acid content, but take about 3 weeks longer to come into fruit. -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: I ordered seven varieties noted for flavour from Chase (HDRA), they arrived some time later than my visa was debited and I sowed them the same day in exactly the same way as I always do, in the greenhouse. That was two weeks ago. The lettuce, cabbage and sprouts have germinated but not the tomatoes. I'm even more disgruntled now, the seeds were expensive and there weren't many. Unless your greenhouse is very well heated, you'll wait at least another week, maybe a fortnight - unless we get a spell of really sunny weather. Grrrrrrrrr Don't be impatient. I would have planted them inside in trays or individual pots. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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The message
from "shazzbat" contains these words: Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) BSA Dandy (forced on me); G3 Matchless, several Matchless and AJS 500 singles; AJS 500 twin; 1938 & 1939 Velocettes, both MSS; 1929 KTT Velo'; 1929 B29 (2¾HP) Douglas; D1 Bantam; ZB31 BSA; 1938 990cc V-twin sv AJS; Douglas T35 Mk1; T35 Mk1 Trials; T35 Mk3; T35 Mk3 Sports; T35 Mk4; T35 Mk4 Sports; T35 Mk5; Plus Ninety; Dragonfly; 998cc Vincent Black B****** (all Lightning bits); Velocette Clubman's Venom; Triumph Trophy; now got BMW R80. There may have been more, but - oh yes, two Arial Red Hunters and a TSX..... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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(Howard) wrote: I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. "Gardeners Delight" are scrumptious, widely available and cheap. Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/ |
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(Nick Maclaren) wrote: However, only about a third of the flavour is due to the variety. I would put it at 75%. Last year, I grew Gardeners Delight, Red Alert and Ailsa Craig on the same small plot with identical treatment. The Red Alert was Ok to eat, very early and little work The Ailsa Craig gave pleasant medium sized fruit and was rather a thug. The Gardeners Delight were packed with that real tomato flavour form a golden age when tomatoes were real tomatoes ... Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/ |
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: I ordered seven varieties noted for flavour from Chase (HDRA), they arrived some time later than my visa was debited and I sowed them the same day in exactly the same way as I always do, in the greenhouse. That was two weeks ago. The lettuce, cabbage and sprouts have germinated but not the tomatoes. I'm even more disgruntled now, the seeds were expensive and there weren't many. Unless your greenhouse is very well heated, you'll wait at least another week, maybe a fortnight - unless we get a spell of really sunny weather. Grrrrrrrrr Don't be impatient. I would have planted them inside in trays or individual pots. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Flavour and tomatoes
The message
from "shazzbat" contains these words: Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) BSA Dandy (forced on me); G3 Matchless, several Matchless and AJS 500 singles; AJS 500 twin; 1938 & 1939 Velocettes, both MSS; 1929 KTT Velo'; 1929 B29 (2¾HP) Douglas; D1 Bantam; ZB31 BSA; 1938 990cc V-twin sv AJS; Douglas T35 Mk1; T35 Mk1 Trials; T35 Mk3; T35 Mk3 Sports; T35 Mk4; T35 Mk4 Sports; T35 Mk5; Plus Ninety; Dragonfly; 998cc Vincent Black B****** (all Lightning bits); Velocette Clubman's Venom; Triumph Trophy; now got BMW R80. There may have been more, but - oh yes, two Arial Red Hunters and a TSX..... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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(Howard) wrote: I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers because of registration fees and such like. "Gardeners Delight" are scrumptious, widely available and cheap. Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/ |
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(Nick Maclaren) wrote: However, only about a third of the flavour is due to the variety. I would put it at 75%. Last year, I grew Gardeners Delight, Red Alert and Ailsa Craig on the same small plot with identical treatment. The Red Alert was Ok to eat, very early and little work The Ailsa Craig gave pleasant medium sized fruit and was rather a thug. The Gardeners Delight were packed with that real tomato flavour form a golden age when tomatoes were real tomatoes ... Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/ |
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: I ordered seven varieties noted for flavour from Chase (HDRA), they arrived some time later than my visa was debited and I sowed them the same day in exactly the same way as I always do, in the greenhouse. That was two weeks ago. The lettuce, cabbage and sprouts have germinated but not the tomatoes. I'm even more disgruntled now, the seeds were expensive and there weren't many. Unless your greenhouse is very well heated, you'll wait at least another week, maybe a fortnight - unless we get a spell of really sunny weather. Grrrrrrrrr Don't be impatient. I would have planted them inside in trays or individual pots. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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The message
from "shazzbat" contains these words: Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) BSA Dandy (forced on me); G3 Matchless, several Matchless and AJS 500 singles; AJS 500 twin; 1938 & 1939 Velocettes, both MSS; 1929 KTT Velo'; 1929 B29 (2¾HP) Douglas; D1 Bantam; ZB31 BSA; 1938 990cc V-twin sv AJS; Douglas T35 Mk1; T35 Mk1 Trials; T35 Mk3; T35 Mk3 Sports; T35 Mk4; T35 Mk4 Sports; T35 Mk5; Plus Ninety; Dragonfly; 998cc Vincent Black B****** (all Lightning bits); Velocette Clubman's Venom; Triumph Trophy; now got BMW R80. There may have been more, but - oh yes, two Arial Red Hunters and a TSX..... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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(Nick Maclaren) wrote: However, only about a third of the flavour is due to the variety. I would put it at 75%. Last year, I grew Gardeners Delight, Red Alert and Ailsa Craig on the same small plot with identical treatment. The Red Alert was Ok to eat, very early and little work The Ailsa Craig gave pleasant medium sized fruit and was rather a thug. The Gardeners Delight were packed with that real tomato flavour form a golden age when tomatoes were real tomatoes ... Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/ |
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from "Sue da Nimm" . contains these words: You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) Steve I had a James Commodore, then a Triumph Cub, then a pre-unit Bonnie ... and then a husband who didn't approve :( Should have traded him in for a new one. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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The message
from "Sue da Nimm" . contains these words: You had a James Captain? My first bike was a James Commando (in 1968, although it was far from new) Much later I used to enjoy confusing people by telling them my first bike was a commando :-)) Steve I had a James Commodore, then a Triumph Cub, then a pre-unit Bonnie ... and then a husband who didn't approve :( Should have traded him in for a new one. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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In article , (Steve Harris) writes: | In article , | (Nick Maclaren) wrote: | | However, only about a third of the flavour is due to the variety. | | I would put it at 75%. Last year, I grew Gardeners Delight, Red Alert | and Ailsa Craig on the same small plot with identical treatment. | | The Red Alert was Ok to eat, very early and little work | The Ailsa Craig gave pleasant medium sized fruit and was rather a thug. | The Gardeners Delight were packed with that real tomato flavour form a | golden age when tomatoes were real tomatoes ... Your method of comparison has the effect of excluding two of the three factors I mentioned, so it is not surprising that you didn't notice them! Grown where? I am comparing them with the taste when grown in a country which suits tomatoes. While the only 'tasty' tomato I have grown is Texas Wild, I have tried the tomatoes that other gardeners enthused over. I didn't, and the Texas Wild was disappointing. The reason being, of course, that it isn't practical to emulate the light levels of the tropics here, though it is possible to grow tomatoes 'dry' if under cover. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: I ordered seven varieties noted for flavour from Chase (HDRA), they arrived some time later than my visa was debited and I sowed them the same day in exactly the same way as I always do, in the greenhouse. That was two weeks ago. The lettuce, cabbage and sprouts have germinated but not the tomatoes. I'm even more disgruntled now, the seeds were expensive and there weren't many. Unless your greenhouse is very well heated, you'll wait at least another week, maybe a fortnight - unless we get a spell of really sunny weather. Grrrrrrrrr Don't be impatient. I would have planted them inside in trays or individual pots. They were sown - not planted! - in individual pots in the thermostatically contolled heated greenhouse in exactly the same way I have always done. I have never known tomato seeds to take so long to germinate. Mary -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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"Steve Harris" wrote in message ... In article , (Nick Maclaren) wrote: However, only about a third of the flavour is due to the variety. I would put it at 75%. Last year, I grew Gardeners Delight, Red Alert and Ailsa Craig on the same small plot with identical treatment. The Red Alert was Ok to eat, very early and little work The Ailsa Craig gave pleasant medium sized fruit and was rather a thug. The Gardeners Delight were packed with that real tomato flavour form a golden age when tomatoes were real tomatoes ... I suspect that there are Gardeners Delight and Gardeners Delight. I have always had the same flavour even from sowing and growing in identical conditions. Perhaps some producers are getting on the GD bandwagon and not being quite as honest as they might be ... Mary Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/ |
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
: I would like to get hold of some tomato seeds that will produce : deliciously flavoured tomatoes. : : I know that these seeds exist but are not sold at regular suppliers : because of registration fees and such like. : : But I have no clue about where to start looking. : There are a fair number of flavoursome varieties sold by normal seed : merchants - do a Web search for Tucker's, Thompson and Morgan, and : look out for Unwins and so on. You can get the unusual varieties : from Henry Doubleday, but you have to join the association (not a : major problem!) : However, only about a third of the flavour is due to the variety. : Another third is not watering as much as commercial growers do, : and the last third is maximising the amount of sunlight. Not a : lot that you can do about the last in the UK :-( And the 4th third (:-) is flavour preference - some like sweet tomatoes, some like less sweet. What some would describe as wonderfully flavourfull others would describe as poor! So try a few. My regular favorite outdoor uk tomato is Red Alert, a bush type. |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message from "shazzbat" contains these words: Howard R100RT BSA Dandy (forced on me); G3 Matchless, several Matchless and AJS 500 singles; AJS 500 twin; 1938 & 1939 Velocettes, both MSS; 1929 KTT Velo'; 1929 B29 (2¾HP) Douglas; D1 Bantam; ZB31 BSA; 1938 990cc V-twin sv AJS; Douglas T35 Mk1; T35 Mk1 Trials; T35 Mk3; T35 Mk3 Sports; T35 Mk4; T35 Mk4 Sports; T35 Mk5; Plus Ninety; Dragonfly; 998cc Vincent Black B****** (all Lightning bits); Velocette Clubman's Venom; Triumph Trophy; now got BMW R80. There may have been more, but - oh yes, two Arial Red Hunters and a TSX..... Strewth, now there's a history! -- Howard R100RT Formerly James Captain, A10, C15, B25, Dnepr M16 solo, R80/7, R100RT (green!) |
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from Howard contains these words: Strewth, now there's a history! And when I get a round tuit I'm building a vintage-ish bitza out of vintage-ish bitz. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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"Howard" wrote in message ... David Hyams wrote: Cheery tomatoes are always the best for flavour although not big enough for sandwiches. Cherry tomatoes, on the other hand, are great in quick pastas. Now I was just enjoying the mental image of cheery tomatoes. :-)) Steve |
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