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Vicky 06-05-2004 10:13 AM

OT - hiding email details on newsgroups
 
Please could someone explain how I disguise my email details when using
newsgroups? My email address appears to have been harvested from this one
already.

Thanks

Vicky



Derek Turner 06-05-2004 10:13 AM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100, "Vicky"
wrote:

let's have a look at your headers:

From: "Vicky"


yes, there it is for all to see!

Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: OT - hiding email details on newsgroups
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100
Lines: 9
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409


there's one born every minute!
get yourself a decent newsreader client for a start
then in the 'from' field put some thing like '
and in the reply-to field something like vickyversa at yahoo dot
co dot uk which a human can read (and edit) if they need to but a
machine won't recognize.

you MAY be able to do something similar with OE but I can't check as I
wont have that piece of crap on my machine. either way, it's way too
late for the address that's already been harvested.

hth
Derek


Shirl 06-05-2004 10:13 AM

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Hi Vicky

If you are using Outlook Express, go to toolsaccountsand choose your
mail account from the options there and then where it shows your email
address, add some words to the middle of it (take a look at my address) You
would know what words to remove, but the email harvesters arent clever
enough (yet) to unmung the address!

You can put a totally fake address in the box, however its best to just add
a few words that a person can understand so ppl can reply to you if need be.

Hope this is clear lol

"Vicky" wrote in message
...
Please could someone explain how I disguise my email details when using
newsgroups? My email address appears to have been harvested from this one
already.

Thanks

Vicky





Jabba 06-05-2004 10:16 AM

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"Vicky" wrote in message
...
Please could someone explain how I disguise my email details when using
newsgroups? My email address appears to have been harvested from this one
already.

Thanks

Vicky


Vicky,

OT Answer

Assuming you are using IE goto 'Tools' - 'Accounts'. Then select the 'News'
tab. You should then be able to select the news server that you use, click
on 'Properties' and chage your e-mail address to something with a valid
format i.e. , but which is not real.

Hope this helps.



Vicky 06-05-2004 10:16 AM

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Thanks everyone - done it and I hope it's worked.

Vicky - occasionally brain-dead when it comes to computers!



RichardS 06-05-2004 11:04 AM

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"Vicky" wrote in message
...
Thanks everyone - done it and I hope it's worked.

Vicky - occasionally brain-dead when it comes to computers!



you might want to rethink that "invalid" address, tho, home.co.uk is a real
domain name, which means that the spammer's mail will probably be delivered
to their servers instead and either bounced or delivered to some unfortunate
with the mail address "vicky" there.


LID

would be a better address that (I think) will be accepted by IE as a valid
email address.

You might also want to add a signature to your posts containing a munged
email address so that folks genuinely wanting to email you are able to do so
(that is entirely a personal preference though). It seems to work - I don't
recall getting any spam addressed to my email contained within my sig.


--
Richard Sampson

email me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk



biggeordie 06-05-2004 11:04 AM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:38:44 +0100, Vicky unleashed the following:

Thanks everyone - done it and I hope it's worked.

Vicky - occasionally brain-dead when it comes to computers!


You do realise that home.co.uk is a registered domain.

--
*geggie*: 'Just you shut your geggie, pal'
*The Patter - Michael Munro*

K 06-05-2004 11:04 AM

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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
: On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100, "Vicky"
: wrote:
:
: let's have a look at your headers:
:
: From: "Vicky"
:
: yes, there it is for all to see!
:
: Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
: Subject: OT - hiding email details on newsgroups
: Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100
: Lines: 9
: X-Priority: 3
: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
:
: there's one born every minute!
: get yourself a decent newsreader client for a start
: then in the 'from' field put some thing like '
: and in the reply-to field something like vickyversa at yahoo dot
: co dot uk which a human can read (and edit) if they need to but a
: machine won't recognize.
:
: you MAY be able to do something similar with OE but I can't check as I
: wont have that piece of crap on my machine. either way, it's way too
: late for the address that's already been harvested.
:
: hth
: Derek
:
You're a happy, helpful little soul aren't you?

A Willwesher



Vicky 06-05-2004 11:04 AM

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Oops - try again - thanks Richard

Vicky



you might want to rethink that "invalid" address, tho, home.co.uk is a

real
domain name,




dave @ stejonda 06-05-2004 11:04 AM

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In message , Vicky
writes
Thanks everyone - done it and I hope it's worked.

Vicky - occasionally brain-dead when it comes to computers!

Vicky, do you work for a firm of online Estate Agents? - If not I think
they may be Very unhappy that you are offering their employee named
Vicky as a sacrificial UCE address. You need to change it an address
which is yours but which you don't read or to an address that really is
false.

Secondly, I think it is useful to actually offer a working Reply-To
address - mine works and receives very little spam (bangs head on wall).

--
dave @ stejonda

"To materialist eyes, India is a developing country;
to spiritual eyes, the United States is a developing country."
Ram Dass

martin 06-05-2004 11:05 AM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 09:26:23 +0100, Derek Turner
wrote:

On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100, "Vicky"
wrote:

let's have a look at your headers:

From: "Vicky"


yes, there it is for all to see!

Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: OT - hiding email details on newsgroups
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100
Lines: 9
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409


there's one born every minute!


Are implying that Agent users don't get spam?

get yourself a decent newsreader client for a start


her news reader is not the source of her problem.

then in the 'from' field put some thing like '
and in the reply-to field something like vickyversa at yahoo dot
co dot uk which a human can read (and edit) if they need to but a
machine won't recognize.

you MAY be able to do something similar with OE but I can't check as I
wont have that piece of crap on my machine. either way, it's way too
late for the address that's already been harvested.


She can always dump her current yahoo address and create a new one.

martin 06-05-2004 11:05 AM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:09:33 +0100, "Vicky"
wrote:

Oops - try again - thanks Richard


Use something like Vicky

was created to suck spam.

news.individual.net which is fussy about these things will accept this
address too.

martin 06-05-2004 11:05 AM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:51:53 +0200, martin wrote:

On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:09:33 +0100, "Vicky"
wrote:

Oops - try again - thanks Richard


Use something like Vicky

was created to suck spam.

news.individual.net which is fussy about these things will accept this
address too.


BTW Vicky see
http://privacy.net/email/

Derek Turner 06-05-2004 11:05 AM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:34:58 +0200, martin wrote:


X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409


there's one born every minute!


Are implying that Agent users don't get spam?


no, but Agent does allow different 'from' and 'reply-to' settings (not
sure that OE does) what one does with that to avoid spam is another
matter. OE defaults to advertising the real e-mail address to all and
sundry, Agent does not.

get yourself a decent newsreader client for a start


her news reader is not the source of her problem.


the way it 'defaults' to posting the real e-mail address (needed for
the e-mail bit) in its newsreader functions is a contributory factor
here, wouldn't you say?

and learn to snip, there's a good chap.

Matt Barton 06-05-2004 12:04 PM

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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:34:58 +0200, martin wrote:


the way it 'defaults' to posting the real e-mail address (needed for
the e-mail bit) in its newsreader functions is a contributory factor
here, wouldn't you say?


There is no such behaviour. The email and news accounts are separate and
distinct and each have their own settings.

Apart from that you make a good point: it *is* shit.



martin 06-05-2004 12:04 PM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 10:56:33 +0100, Derek Turner
wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:34:58 +0200, martin wrote:


X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409

there's one born every minute!


Are implying that Agent users don't get spam?


no, but Agent does allow different 'from' and 'reply-to' settings (not
sure that OE does


It does as somebody else has already said.

OE is much easier for a non specialist PC user to learn. I use Agent
my wife uses OE. It's not a matter of intelligence, but learning and
inclination, my wife has a PhD in physics, I haven't.
My wife has never used her e-mail address to post to a newsgroup and
still gets spam. My daughter, who has never used her wanadoo e-mail
account at all even for mail, gets about 20 spam messages sent to her
account a day.

) what one does with that to avoid spam is another
matter. OE defaults to advertising the real e-mail address to all and
sundry, Agent does not.


despite which many Agent users use their real e-mail address
for news.


get yourself a decent newsreader client for a start


her news reader is not the source of her problem.


the way it 'defaults' to posting the real e-mail address (needed for
the e-mail bit) in its newsreader functions is a contributory factor
here, wouldn't you say?


no, it's the fact that the user didn't know how to insert something
different, if it hadn't defaulted to her real e-mail address she
wouldn't have been able to use mail and news at all.
Judging from posts to the forte news group there are also Agent
users, who don't know how to insert a false e-mail address for news
groups.

Gwenhyffar Milgi 06-05-2004 12:04 PM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 12:21:26 +0200, martin wrote:


despite which many Agent users use their real e-mail address
for news.


Hand up! I do, however it is a separate email address that is used
only for usenet.

Just clean out the bin once in a while and hey presto!


--
"My candle burns at both ends; it will not last the night
but ah my foes and oh my friends -- it gives a lovely light"

martin 06-05-2004 12:04 PM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:36:32 +0000 (UTC), Gwenhyffar Milgi
wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 12:21:26 +0200, martin wrote:


despite which many Agent users use their real e-mail address
for news.


Hand up! I do, however it is a separate email address that is used
only for usenet.


Me too until about a year ago, I learnt my lesson with the Sven virus


Just clean out the bin once in a while and hey presto!


:-)

Caroline 06-05-2004 01:04 PM

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"Matt Barton" schreef in bericht
...

"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:34:58 +0200, martin wrote:


the way it 'defaults' to posting the real e-mail address (needed for
the e-mail bit) in its newsreader functions is a contributory factor
here, wouldn't you say?


There is no such behaviour. The email and news accounts are separate and
distinct and each have their own settings.


They have their own settings, but BOTH default to the real e-mail address.

Apart from that you make a good point: it *is* shit.





Gwenhyffar Milgi 06-05-2004 01:04 PM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 13:04:14 +0200, martin wrote:

On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:36:32 +0000 (UTC), Gwenhyffar Milgi
wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 12:21:26 +0200, martin wrote:


despite which many Agent users use their real e-mail address
for news.


Hand up! I do, however it is a separate email address that is used
only for usenet.


Me too until about a year ago, I learnt my lesson with the Sven virus


Ah, but I don't download the mail from this one directly.


--
"My candle burns at both ends; it will not last the night
but ah my foes and oh my friends -- it gives a lovely light"

martin 06-05-2004 01:04 PM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 11:23:22 +0000 (UTC), Gwenhyffar Milgi
wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 13:04:14 +0200, martin wrote:

On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:36:32 +0000 (UTC), Gwenhyffar Milgi
wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 12:21:26 +0200, martin wrote:


despite which many Agent users use their real e-mail address
for news.

Hand up! I do, however it is a separate email address that is used
only for usenet.


Me too until about a year ago, I learnt my lesson with the Sven virus


Ah, but I don't download the mail from this one directly.


The Sven virus has very large files attached to each message, I had a
holiday and returned to find my mailbox on the ISPs server had
overflowed and real mail had been bounced.

Gwenhyffar Milgi 06-05-2004 02:05 PM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 13:52:23 +0200, martin wrote:

On Thu, 6 May 2004 11:23:22 +0000 (UTC), Gwenhyffar Milgi
wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 13:04:14 +0200, martin wrote:

On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:36:32 +0000 (UTC), Gwenhyffar Milgi
wrote:

On Thu, 06 May 2004 12:21:26 +0200, martin wrote:


despite which many Agent users use their real e-mail address
for news.

Hand up! I do, however it is a separate email address that is used
only for usenet.

Me too until about a year ago, I learnt my lesson with the Sven virus


Ah, but I don't download the mail from this one directly.


The Sven virus has very large files attached to each message, I had a
holiday and returned to find my mailbox on the ISPs server had
overflowed and real mail had been bounced.


That's why I use this one only for Usenet. Real mail gets sent to my
real mail address.


--
"My candle burns at both ends; it will not last the night
but ah my foes and oh my friends -- it gives a lovely light"

Stephen Williams 06-05-2004 05:04 PM

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Snip

Although I hide the real email address I still get loads of SPAM so when I
wanted to stop ?|£*$% rubbish from getting to the kids email box I found
http://www.spamjab.com/.

This site requires you to know the original ISP details and change a few
settings (all of which are comprehensively explained) and hey presto SPAM
doesn't reach you POP3 mailbox.

They intercept anything that looks like SPAM and hold it for a short period
to ensure that they haven't highlighted something that you really want. If
they spot something that is likely to be SPAM, but they are not certain they
send you an email to request your instructions.

So far I've had nothing sent to me that I didn't want and the best is that
it's currently free.

Cheers
Steve



Tumbleweed 06-05-2004 05:04 PM

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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100, "Vicky"
wrote:

let's have a look at your headers:

From: "Vicky"


yes, there it is for all to see!

Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Subject: OT - hiding email details on newsgroups
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100
Lines: 9
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409


there's one born every minute!


Do you mean someone who paid money for a newreader that does nothing
significantly different or extra that OE (for free) doesnt?


get yourself a decent newsreader client for a start
then in the 'from' field put some thing like '
and in the reply-to field something like vickyversa at yahoo dot
co dot uk which a human can read (and edit) if they need to but a
machine won't recognize.

you MAY be able to do something similar with OE but I can't check as I
wont have that piece of crap on my machine.


So whats wrong with it, specifically? (you can certainly mangle addresses
with it) and since you dont have it and are apparently know nothing about
it, I wonder why you call it a 'piece of crap'.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address



martin 06-05-2004 05:04 PM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 16:32:55 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:


"Derek Turner" wrote in message
.. .


you MAY be able to do something similar with OE but I can't check as I
wont have that piece of crap on my machine.


So whats wrong with it, specifically? (you can certainly mangle addresses
with it) and since you dont have it and are apparently know nothing about
it, I wonder why you call it a 'piece of crap'.


Abusing MS products is a sort of religion.

I'm only surprised that the all powerful Holy Linux hasn't been
mentioned, so far :-)

dave @ stejonda 06-05-2004 05:04 PM

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In message , Stephen Williams
writes
Snip

Although I hide the real email address I still get loads of SPAM so when I
wanted to stop ?|£*$% rubbish from getting to the kids email box I found
http://www.spamjab.com/.


They intercept anything that looks like SPAM and hold it for a short period
to ensure that they haven't highlighted something that you really want. If
they spot something that is likely to be SPAM, but they are not certain they
send you an email to request your instructions.

So far I've had nothing sent to me that I didn't want and the best is that
it's currently free.

K9 does the same thing but totally under your control. It is, and
according to the author will remain, free. www.keir.net

--
dave @ stejonda

"To materialist eyes, India is a developing country;
to spiritual eyes, the United States is a developing country."
Ram Dass

dave @ stejonda 06-05-2004 07:09 PM

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In message , martin
writes
Use something like Vicky

was created to suck spam.

test!

--
dave @ stejonda

dave @ stejonda 06-05-2004 07:09 PM

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In message , "dave @ stejonda"
writes
In message , martin
writes
Use something like Vicky

was created to suck spam.

test!

Thanks for the pointer Martin :)

This'll stop the quantity of auto-rejects increasing :)

--
dave @ stejonda

Tumbleweed 06-05-2004 08:09 PM

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"martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 May 2004 16:32:55 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:


"Derek Turner" wrote in message
.. .


you MAY be able to do something similar with OE but I can't check as I
wont have that piece of crap on my machine.


So whats wrong with it, specifically? (you can certainly mangle addresses
with it) and since you dont have it and are apparently know nothing about
it, I wonder why you call it a 'piece of crap'.


Abusing MS products is a sort of religion.

I'm only surprised that the all powerful Holy Linux hasn't been
mentioned, so far :-)



FWIW I am newly running Linux on another PC (Redhat Advanced Server) and
have to say its not as user friendly as Windows, nor does it have the
hardware compatability yet, for example I would have to committ unnatural
acts to get it to work with my wireless card whereas windows worked right
out of the box.

It may be more powerful but that is definitely at the expense of
ease-of-use. This is from a desktop rather than a server POV. What it has
got going for it ATM is relative immunity to viruses, partially because of
how it works and partially because the virus/worm writers dont target it.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address



Brian 06-05-2004 08:09 PM

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Vicky-
Your address will have already been harvested. News groups are the hunting
grounds for Virus senders. Mine became totally clogged with infected, phoney
mails supposedly from MS and phoney return mails.
I simply arranged to change my address from say 'bsmith' to 'smithb' etc
but left it unchanged for the news groups. On the downside I did have to let
all my friends [both of them!!] know my new address.
The result has been miraculous.
Best Wishes Brian. 'flayb' to respond!! but still transmitting
'bflay' to newsgroups.
"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
...
In article EFmmc.37$VR4.30@newsfe1-win, Jabba
writes

Assuming you are using IE goto 'Tools' - 'Accounts'. Then select the

'News'
tab. You should then be able to select the news server that you use,

click
on 'Properties' and chage your e-mail address to something with a valid
format i.e. , but which is not real.

Better still, email Jon Green and ask for a deadspam account.
You never know, when you make up an email address, whether or not there
actually is some poor person with that address in which case they will
get all the spam directed at you!!!!!!
Unfortunately, as your address has already been harvested, this exercise
will be pointless unless you change your email address - and remember to
tell all your friends.

If you want Jon Green's email to get a valid 'hidden' address I'll try
and hunt it out for you.
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see






martin 06-05-2004 08:09 PM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 19:41:19 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 6 May 2004 16:32:55 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:


"Derek Turner" wrote in message
.. .


you MAY be able to do something similar with OE but I can't check as I
wont have that piece of crap on my machine.

So whats wrong with it, specifically? (you can certainly mangle addresses
with it) and since you dont have it and are apparently know nothing about
it, I wonder why you call it a 'piece of crap'.


Abusing MS products is a sort of religion.

I'm only surprised that the all powerful Holy Linux hasn't been
mentioned, so far :-)



FWIW I am newly running Linux on another PC (Redhat Advanced Server) and
have to say its not as user friendly as Windows, nor does it have the
hardware compatability yet, for example I would have to committ unnatural
acts to get it to work with my wireless card whereas windows worked right
out of the box.

It may be more powerful but that is definitely at the expense of
ease-of-use. This is from a desktop rather than a server POV. What it has
got going for it ATM is relative immunity to viruses, partially because of
how it works and partially because the virus/worm writers dont target it.


I have similar experience and I totally agree with you.

Derek Turner 06-05-2004 09:06 PM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 16:32:55 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:



there's one born every minute!


Do you mean someone who paid money for a newreader that does nothing
significantly different or extra that OE (for free) doesnt?


it does it significantly quicker and more elegantly, and off-line too!


So whats wrong with it, specifically?


how long have you got? thousands of trojanned machines all over the
world spewing spam because of the wonderful 'features' built in to OE
would be a start. How many critical security 'updates' have I had to
apply to Agent in all the time I've used it? ditto Mozilla? a very
round number! it seems that almost every week M$ discover (or realise
that someone else has discovered and exploited) yet another hole in
this piece of crap.

and since you dont have it and are apparently know nothing about
it, I wonder why you call it a 'piece of crap'.


I have it, Windows XP leaves me no choice, but I have uninstalled it.
I know a LOT about it because I'm forever having to rescue friends and
colleagues from its fall-out. Contrary to opinion expressed in this
thread I have nothing aginst M$ products per se, I use them daily,
it's just OE/IE that I loathe for the reasions stated above.


jane 06-05-2004 09:07 PM

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On Thu, 06 May 2004 12:21:26 +0200, martin wrote:

~On Thu, 06 May 2004 10:56:33 +0100, Derek Turner
~wrote:
~
~On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:34:58 +0200, martin wrote:
~
~
~X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
~
~there's one born every minute!
~
~Are implying that Agent users don't get spam?

I wish!

~no, but Agent does allow different 'from' and 'reply-to' settings (not
~sure that OE does

jane checks AllFields
yep, still have daft addy set in From: and Default in Reply-To which
means the From: addy. Good, I didn't reset it in my sleep one day.

I do like the fact I can set group properties different to email. And
I'm still using the ancient Agent I've had for years cos they still
haven't got multiple mail accounts in Agent 2!

~It does as somebody else has already said.
~
~OE is much easier for a non specialist PC user to learn. I use Agent
~my wife uses OE. It's not a matter of intelligence, but learning and
~inclination, my wife has a PhD in physics, I haven't.
She does? What area? (I always like to hear of other female
physicists)

~My wife has never used her e-mail address to post to a newsgroup and
~still gets spam. My daughter, who has never used her wanadoo e-mail
~account at all even for mail, gets about 20 spam messages sent to her
~account a day.
The one that gets me is that 50% of spam comes to an addy which was
used precisely once some 8 years ago to post to one newsgroup.
Thank goodness for Demon's filtering - most gets stomped on now and
mailwasher gets the rest.

~) what one does with that to avoid spam is another
~matter. OE defaults to advertising the real e-mail address to all and
~sundry, Agent does not.
~
~despite which many Agent users use their real e-mail address
~for news.
Been there, done that, got the spam deluge.

~
~get yourself a decent newsreader client for a start
~
~her news reader is not the source of her problem.
~
~the way it 'defaults' to posting the real e-mail address (needed for
~the e-mail bit) in its newsreader functions is a contributory factor
~here, wouldn't you say?
~
~no, it's the fact that the user didn't know how to insert something
~different, if it hadn't defaulted to her real e-mail address she
~wouldn't have been able to use mail and news at all.
~Judging from posts to the forte news group there are also Agent
~users, who don't know how to insert a false e-mail address for news
~groups.

Took me years to find the override setting - was doing it manually up
until a few months ago. Boy, I grumbled when I found it!

Seriously, all readers in default form and installation will put
unmunged addys on the from: field. Whatever their pedigree.
It's the old story - if you don't know it's there you can't use it...


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

martin 06-05-2004 10:05 PM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 20:05:38 +0000 (UTC),
(jane) wrote:


~OE is much easier for a non specialist PC user to learn. I use Agent
~my wife uses OE. It's not a matter of intelligence, but learning and
~inclination, my wife has a PhD in physics, I haven't.
She does? What area? (I always like to hear of other female
physicists)


Ultra Violet Astronomy.



Kay Easton 06-05-2004 10:07 PM

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In article , Vicky
writes
Please could someone explain how I disguise my email details when using
newsgroups? My email address appears to have been harvested from this one
already.


Too late if its already been harvested.
An alternative is to us a mail checking program to weed out the spam for
you.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Kay Easton 06-05-2004 10:07 PM

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In article , Gwenhyffar
Milgi writes

That's why I use this one only for Usenet. Real mail gets sent to my
real mail address.

Ah well - I've just emailed you with something I thought might be
helpful but which I didn't want to bother the whole group with, so I
guess you won't get that one then! ;-)


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Janet Baraclough.. 06-05-2004 11:56 PM

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The message
from "Vicky" contains these words:

Oops - try again - thanks Richard


Vicky




you might want to rethink that "invalid" address, tho, home.co.uk is a

real
domain name,


When replying to usenet posts, it's usual to include the name and
from-address of the person whose post you quote, as I've included yours.
Then other people who perhaps join the thread after it started, or
looking it up in the archives, know who is conversing.

Putting your reply underneath the comment you're replying to, as mine
is, is also normal practice in this group. Putting it on top, as you do,
is called top-posting; it disrupts threads and some of the most helpful
and knowledgeable urglers ignore messages from top-posters.

Every week there's a useful post called abc for newcomers to urg.
www.google/groups also has a very useful "help" section which explains
how to get the best from usenet.

Janet


Chris Hogg 06-05-2004 11:56 PM

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On Thu, 6 May 2004 09:12:07 +0100, "Vicky"
wrote:

Please could someone explain how I disguise my email details when using
newsgroups? My email address appears to have been harvested from this one
already.

Thanks

Vicky

Until about a week ago, I was getting around 100 spam e-mails per day
and rising, despite having a false address (I used mailwasher
www.mailwasher.net to filter them). But Virgin.net have recently
started filtering spam from all messages they handle. Since then my
spam messages have dropped to between zero and five per day. I don't
see why all ISP's can't do the same, at which point spam would cease
as there'd be no point in sending it.

(I have no financial connection with Virgin.net, BTW).


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

dave @ stejonda 06-05-2004 11:56 PM

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In message , Janet
Baraclough.. writes
The message from "Vicky"
contains these words:

Oops - try again - thanks Richard


Vicky




you might want to rethink that "invalid" address, tho, home.co.uk is a

real
domain name,


When replying to usenet posts, it's usual to include the name and
from-address of the person whose post you quote, as I've included yours.


Hmmm - Janet, Richard did and in this instance you didn't. :((

Then other people who perhaps join the thread after it started, or
looking it up in the archives, know who is conversing.

Putting your reply underneath the comment you're replying to


Richard did so.

--
dave @ stejonda

Tumbleweed 06-05-2004 11:56 PM

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"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 May 2004 16:32:55 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:



there's one born every minute!


Do you mean someone who paid money for a newreader that does nothing
significantly different or extra that OE (for free) doesnt?


it does it significantly quicker and more elegantly, and off-line too!


It does *what* significantly quicker? I click on a message or email its
there as fast as I need it, essentially instantaneously. OE will read off
line as well.



So whats wrong with it, specifically?


how long have you got? thousands of trojanned machines all over the
world spewing spam because of the wonderful 'features' built in to OE
would be a start. How many critical security 'updates' have I had to
apply to Agent in all the time I've used it? ditto Mozilla? a very
round number! it seems that almost every week M$ discover (or realise
that someone else has discovered and exploited) yet another hole in
this piece of crap.


There have been very few OE updates at all. And the problems are (or were)
to so with default behavious like opening attachments that newbies didnt
know to switch off. You could equally well set agent to open attachments.
Also, very few of those machines 'spewing spam' will be doing it via OE,
most of thsi stuff comes with its own email engine these days.


and since you dont have it and are apparently know nothing about
it, I wonder why you call it a 'piece of crap'.


I have it, Windows XP leaves me no choice, but I have uninstalled it.


Contradiction there surely?It leave s you no choice to have it but you
uninstalled it?

I know a LOT about it because I'm forever having to rescue friends and
colleagues from its fall-out. Contrary to opinion expressed in this
thread I have nothing aginst M$ products per se, I use them daily,
it's just OE/IE that I loathe for the reasions stated above.


Your friends who were clueless enough to open up & run attachments from
unknown people? Those same friends would have done that on Agent.


--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address




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