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Old 05-06-2004, 11:46 PM
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Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.

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Old 09-06-2004, 03:34 PM
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kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 09-06-2004, 03:40 PM
Kay
 
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In article , Nick Maclaren
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In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.

They are, and with a good web site, good variety, and will advise on
your particular requirements.


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Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Old 09-06-2004, 03:40 PM
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On 6/6/04 10:25, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:

In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


We got a Canon Hall vine from Reads (the King of dessert grapes, IMO) but it
was a very tiny baby when it arrived. We kept in it one of the tunnels for
a year and planted it into the soil in a greenhouse two years ago. This
year it's going to fruit for the first time - can't wait!
--

Sacha
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Old 09-06-2004, 04:32 PM
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In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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Old 09-06-2004, 04:39 PM
Kay
 
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In article , Nick Maclaren
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In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.

They are, and with a good web site, good variety, and will advise on
your particular requirements.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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On 6/6/04 10:25, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:

In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


We got a Canon Hall vine from Reads (the King of dessert grapes, IMO) but it
was a very tiny baby when it arrived. We kept in it one of the tunnels for
a year and planted it into the soil in a greenhouse two years ago. This
year it's going to fruit for the first time - can't wait!
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds after garden to email me)

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Old 09-06-2004, 05:21 PM
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In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 09-06-2004, 05:27 PM
Kay
 
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In article , Nick Maclaren
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In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.

They are, and with a good web site, good variety, and will advise on
your particular requirements.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Sacha
 
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On 6/6/04 10:25, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:

In article m,
kenty ;-\) wrote:
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.


It's certainly possible. I can't remember if Reads of Norfolk
are also vine specialists, but there is a good one in East Anglia.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


We got a Canon Hall vine from Reads (the King of dessert grapes, IMO) but it
was a very tiny baby when it arrived. We kept in it one of the tunnels for
a year and planted it into the soil in a greenhouse two years ago. This
year it's going to fruit for the first time - can't wait!
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds after garden to email me)



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Old 09-06-2004, 06:50 PM
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"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
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Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on the
same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.


Victoria
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Victoria Clare wrote:
"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine
on the same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless
the pergola is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous
plants, and grapes need plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless
you have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less
separate.



You can do it with a bit of fprwrd planning.... 2*Wisteria trained along
the side timbers of the pergola with all side branches cut back very short.
Grape vine(s) as a green roof in the sun.

pk


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Old 09-06-2004, 06:56 PM
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In article ,
Victoria Clare writes:
|
| Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on the
| same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
| is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
| plenty of sun to crop well.

However, both can be pruned to be kept within bounds.

| I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
| have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.

In my case, the converse is more likely - but it is Vitis coignetae
and Wisteria frutescens.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 09-06-2004, 06:58 PM
Kay
 
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In article , PK
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You can do it with a bit of fprwrd planning.... 2*Wisteria trained along
the side timbers of the pergola with all side branches cut back very short.
Grape vine(s) as a green roof in the sun.

Hmm ... I have a pergola with apples trained along the sides and over
the top, and a wisteria crawling along the top of the apples ... adding
a grape vine would be one step too far ... but could I grow a grape vine
up one of the other trees? I not worrying about maximising fruit, but
perhaps getting a little, while at the same time having an attractive
creeper?

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Kay
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"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on the
same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.


Victoria
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in South-East Cornwall
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