I would leave out the gyphosate, I turned of earth with grass to a depth
of approx 6" and it didn't grow through.

IMO chemicals are to be used as last resort not first choice


Okay - I'm converted. I'll just burry the sods upside down, at least a foot
deep and see how we go.

Thanks again to all of you, Joe

What a lot of fuss.......all you do is to build a turf wall with the turf
face down, this can be used for many things or just to let the grass die
off. you will get a bit of growth from the outside half inch but if you let
it alone for about 8 weeks you can then cut the wall back with a spade about
an inch and put the trimmings in your compost heap (Buried) after a year you
will gave first class loam for potting compost.
This was the way that loam was produced for many many years and it grew
great plants.
No need fro chemicals or the hard work of digging a trench or anything.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Hi All

Subject: sod it?
From: "joe"
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:00:15 +0100

I've just 'dug-up' a small lawn to lay a paved path and circle. Now I'm
faced with the problem of what to do with the grass sods.

Most of them will fit face-down on the compost heap but there are a few left
over.

Personally, I would stack them grass to grass, soil to soil, in alternate
layers.

If I burry them grass side down, say a spade depth deep, or even lay them
face-down and cover them with new topsoil in a week or so, would the grass
grow through again?

Cheers Joe.

In the past I have laid them face down and treated the edges where the grass
shows with Roundup.

Peter Bridge

"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 6/6/04 11:39, in article ,
"joe" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote

Does anyone you know nearby want to patch up their lawn? ;-)

Not that I know of Sacha.

Do you think I can burry the sods face down without the grass gowing
through
later?



I haven't done this myself but the received wisdom is that if you bury
them
deeply enough, you can do that. And IIRC, 6" or a little more is "deep
enough".
I haven't seen this done with turves but I've often seen unwanted plants
outside a garden gate with a 'free, please help yourself' notice. I
suppose
you could try that, having watered them well so they don't frazzle.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds after garden to email me.

********
Isn't it a shame that old, properly-done customs have fallen by the wayside
due to laziness of body and mind.
It was always the custom, - before the rape of the peat beds began, - (for
money, of course), - for gardeners and especially Nurserymen to make their
own loam for seedlings and potting-on.
They dug grass sods - usually from a field, - about inches thick, squared
them off very roughly and stacked them up to about hip or shoulder height
and left them to weather for no less than a year, My Dad and I used to
have three at time stacked. The one-year-old ones did not do too well,
that's why we built three stacks, joined together to make one long one but
the division between the three was obvious because the one just used and
replaced was just built and looked clean and new, it had no surface growth
on it.
They were stood in line in a sunny corner and we used the three-year old
one. The outside of the stacks gradually grew a grass coat each but as the
third one came into use it, the grass was skived off and put into the first
one to recycle and rot.. Simple!, - isn't it?. Everything happened more
slowly in those days.
The stacks when brought into use produced an excellent friable loam ideal
for seedlings and potting. all the weeds and their seeds in the middle of
the stacks had, usually, rotted.
The last Nurseryman I saw using the method had succumbed to the peat fad and
used it in various percentage mixes to suit the particular job in hand.
Doug.
*******

I would leave out the gyphosate, I turned of earth with grass to a depth
of approx 6" and it didn't grow through.

IMO chemicals are to be used as last resort not first choice


Okay - I'm converted. I'll just burry the sods upside down, at least a foot
deep and see how we go.

Thanks again to all of you, Joe

I would leave out the gyphosate, I turned of earth with grass to a depth
of approx 6" and it didn't grow through.

IMO chemicals are to be used as last resort not first choice


Okay - I'm converted. I'll just burry the sods upside down, at least a foot
deep and see how we go.

Thanks again to all of you, Joe

What a lot of fuss.......all you do is to build a turf wall with the turf
face down, this can be used for many things or just to let the grass die
off. you will get a bit of growth from the outside half inch but if you let
it alone for about 8 weeks you can then cut the wall back with a spade about
an inch and put the trimmings in your compost heap (Buried) after a year you
will gave first class loam for potting compost.
This was the way that loam was produced for many many years and it grew
great plants.
No need fro chemicals or the hard work of digging a trench or anything.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Hi All

Subject: sod it?
From: "joe"
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:00:15 +0100

I've just 'dug-up' a small lawn to lay a paved path and circle. Now I'm
faced with the problem of what to do with the grass sods.

Most of them will fit face-down on the compost heap but there are a few left
over.

Personally, I would stack them grass to grass, soil to soil, in alternate
layers.

If I burry them grass side down, say a spade depth deep, or even lay them
face-down and cover them with new topsoil in a week or so, would the grass
grow through again?

Cheers Joe.

In the past I have laid them face down and treated the edges where the grass
shows with Roundup.

Peter Bridge

"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 6/6/04 11:39, in article ,
"joe" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote

Does anyone you know nearby want to patch up their lawn? ;-)

Not that I know of Sacha.

Do you think I can burry the sods face down without the grass gowing
through
later?



I haven't done this myself but the received wisdom is that if you bury
them
deeply enough, you can do that. And IIRC, 6" or a little more is "deep
enough".
I haven't seen this done with turves but I've often seen unwanted plants
outside a garden gate with a 'free, please help yourself' notice. I
suppose
you could try that, having watered them well so they don't frazzle.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds after garden to email me.

********
Isn't it a shame that old, properly-done customs have fallen by the wayside
due to laziness of body and mind.
It was always the custom, - before the rape of the peat beds began, - (for
money, of course), - for gardeners and especially Nurserymen to make their
own loam for seedlings and potting-on.
They dug grass sods - usually from a field, - about inches thick, squared
them off very roughly and stacked them up to about hip or shoulder height
and left them to weather for no less than a year, My Dad and I used to
have three at time stacked. The one-year-old ones did not do too well,
that's why we built three stacks, joined together to make one long one but
the division between the three was obvious because the one just used and
replaced was just built and looked clean and new, it had no surface growth
on it.
They were stood in line in a sunny corner and we used the three-year old
one. The outside of the stacks gradually grew a grass coat each but as the
third one came into use it, the grass was skived off and put into the first
one to recycle and rot.. Simple!, - isn't it?. Everything happened more
slowly in those days.
The stacks when brought into use produced an excellent friable loam ideal
for seedlings and potting. all the weeds and their seeds in the middle of
the stacks had, usually, rotted.
The last Nurseryman I saw using the method had succumbed to the peat fad and
used it in various percentage mixes to suit the particular job in hand.
Doug.
*******

I would leave out the gyphosate, I turned of earth with grass to a depth
of approx 6" and it didn't grow through.

IMO chemicals are to be used as last resort not first choice


Okay - I'm converted. I'll just burry the sods upside down, at least a foot
deep and see how we go.

Thanks again to all of you, Joe

I would leave out the gyphosate, I turned of earth with grass to a depth
of approx 6" and it didn't grow through.

IMO chemicals are to be used as last resort not first choice


Okay - I'm converted. I'll just burry the sods upside down, at least a foot
deep and see how we go.

Thanks again to all of you, Joe

What a lot of fuss.......all you do is to build a turf wall with the turf
face down, this can be used for many things or just to let the grass die
off. you will get a bit of growth from the outside half inch but if you let
it alone for about 8 weeks you can then cut the wall back with a spade about
an inch and put the trimmings in your compost heap (Buried) after a year you
will gave first class loam for potting compost.
This was the way that loam was produced for many many years and it grew
great plants.
No need fro chemicals or the hard work of digging a trench or anything.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Hi All

Subject: sod it?
From: "joe"
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:00:15 +0100

I've just 'dug-up' a small lawn to lay a paved path and circle. Now I'm
faced with the problem of what to do with the grass sods.

Most of them will fit face-down on the compost heap but there are a few left
over.

Personally, I would stack them grass to grass, soil to soil, in alternate
layers.

If I burry them grass side down, say a spade depth deep, or even lay them
face-down and cover them with new topsoil in a week or so, would the grass
grow through again?

Cheers Joe.

In the past I have laid them face down and treated the edges where the grass
shows with Roundup.

Peter Bridge

"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 6/6/04 11:39, in article ,
"joe" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote

Does anyone you know nearby want to patch up their lawn? ;-)

Not that I know of Sacha.

Do you think I can burry the sods face down without the grass gowing
through
later?



I haven't done this myself but the received wisdom is that if you bury
them
deeply enough, you can do that. And IIRC, 6" or a little more is "deep
enough".
I haven't seen this done with turves but I've often seen unwanted plants
outside a garden gate with a 'free, please help yourself' notice. I
suppose
you could try that, having watered them well so they don't frazzle.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds after garden to email me.

********
Isn't it a shame that old, properly-done customs have fallen by the wayside
due to laziness of body and mind.
It was always the custom, - before the rape of the peat beds began, - (for
money, of course), - for gardeners and especially Nurserymen to make their
own loam for seedlings and potting-on.
They dug grass sods - usually from a field, - about inches thick, squared
them off very roughly and stacked them up to about hip or shoulder height
and left them to weather for no less than a year, My Dad and I used to
have three at time stacked. The one-year-old ones did not do too well,
that's why we built three stacks, joined together to make one long one but
the division between the three was obvious because the one just used and
replaced was just built and looked clean and new, it had no surface growth
on it.
They were stood in line in a sunny corner and we used the three-year old
one. The outside of the stacks gradually grew a grass coat each but as the
third one came into use it, the grass was skived off and put into the first
one to recycle and rot.. Simple!, - isn't it?. Everything happened more
slowly in those days.
The stacks when brought into use produced an excellent friable loam ideal
for seedlings and potting. all the weeds and their seeds in the middle of
the stacks had, usually, rotted.
The last Nurseryman I saw using the method had succumbed to the peat fad and
used it in various percentage mixes to suit the particular job in hand.
Doug.
*******

I would leave out the gyphosate, I turned of earth with grass to a depth
of approx 6" and it didn't grow through.

IMO chemicals are to be used as last resort not first choice


Okay - I'm converted. I'll just burry the sods upside down, at least a foot
deep and see how we go.

Thanks again to all of you, Joe