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Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 01:03 AM

Window sill gardening
 
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)


bigboard 30-07-2004 10:31 AM

Window sill gardening
 
Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)



I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a peach tree
would be a bit big. What about some of the small citrus trees you can buy?
Fresh lemons would be very nice in the kitchen.

--
I have a simple philosophy:

Fill what's empty.
Empty what's full.
Scratch where it itches.
-- A. R. Longworth


bigboard 30-07-2004 10:31 AM

Window sill gardening
 
Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)



I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a peach tree
would be a bit big. What about some of the small citrus trees you can buy?
Fresh lemons would be very nice in the kitchen.

--
I have a simple philosophy:

Fill what's empty.
Empty what's full.
Scratch where it itches.
-- A. R. Longworth


Mike Lyle 30-07-2004 10:46 AM

Window sill gardening
 
Mark Blewett wrote in message . ..
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?


I confess to a prejudice against "patio" midgets, so I may be biased.
Off-hand, I'd say that one of those fruit-trees would need light from
overhead, not just through a south window, however large. There would
also be a problem of air-circulation: still air encourages pests and
diseases. I don't know how much it matters for all trees (peach
probably ok; and they used to grow oranges here in very much that
way), but they wouldn't get a proper period of winter dormancy in the
house.

Annual crops such as you're growing already are in any case a much
more profitable use of the space, as you get a big return, and get it
from the very first year, and can try different varieties.

Mike.

Kay 30-07-2004 07:09 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

You could try strawberries (no slugs to contend with) or, if your window
is really big, a fig.

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 30-07-2004 07:09 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

You could try strawberries (no slugs to contend with) or, if your window
is really big, a fig.

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 07:26 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)



I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a peach tree
would be a bit big.


What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.

What about some of the small citrus trees you can buy?
Fresh lemons would be very nice in the kitchen.


I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips? Has anyone tried these small
citrus trees? What varieties should I look at?

Thanks
Mark

Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 07:26 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)



I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a peach tree
would be a bit big.


What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.

What about some of the small citrus trees you can buy?
Fresh lemons would be very nice in the kitchen.


I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips? Has anyone tried these small
citrus trees? What varieties should I look at?

Thanks
Mark

Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 07:50 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On 30 Jul 2004 02:46:06 -0700, (Mike Lyle)
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote in message . ..
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?


I confess to a prejudice against "patio" midgets, so I may be biased.
Off-hand, I'd say that one of those fruit-trees would need light from
overhead, not just through a south window, however large. There would
also be a problem of air-circulation: still air encourages pests and
diseases. I don't know how much it matters for all trees (peach
probably ok; and they used to grow oranges here in very much that
way), but they wouldn't get a proper period of winter dormancy in the
house.


Thanks... sounds like its not a realistic option The things that
bothered me were size, enviroment etc... I hadn't thought of the light
issue.

Annual crops such as you're growing already are in any case a much
more profitable use of the space, as you get a big return, and get it
from the very first year, and can try different varieties.


Yeah.. that's the reason I started with them.. easy and quick to
grow.. and for the herbs so much cheaper than buying them at a
supermarket.. and as far as the tomarto's.. there is nothing better
than home grown.

I think I've reached the stage where I'd like something more long
term... I don't mind waiting a few years for a crop.. the trouble is I
don't have the knowledge.. and if you have to wait a few years for the
reward, it worth at least trying to start with the right direction..
which means having some knowledge.. I'm having a bit of a circular
argument with myself at the moment!

Thanks
Mark

Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 07:50 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On 30 Jul 2004 02:46:06 -0700, (Mike Lyle)
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote in message . ..
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?


I confess to a prejudice against "patio" midgets, so I may be biased.
Off-hand, I'd say that one of those fruit-trees would need light from
overhead, not just through a south window, however large. There would
also be a problem of air-circulation: still air encourages pests and
diseases. I don't know how much it matters for all trees (peach
probably ok; and they used to grow oranges here in very much that
way), but they wouldn't get a proper period of winter dormancy in the
house.


Thanks... sounds like its not a realistic option The things that
bothered me were size, enviroment etc... I hadn't thought of the light
issue.

Annual crops such as you're growing already are in any case a much
more profitable use of the space, as you get a big return, and get it
from the very first year, and can try different varieties.


Yeah.. that's the reason I started with them.. easy and quick to
grow.. and for the herbs so much cheaper than buying them at a
supermarket.. and as far as the tomarto's.. there is nothing better
than home grown.

I think I've reached the stage where I'd like something more long
term... I don't mind waiting a few years for a crop.. the trouble is I
don't have the knowledge.. and if you have to wait a few years for the
reward, it worth at least trying to start with the right direction..
which means having some knowledge.. I'm having a bit of a circular
argument with myself at the moment!

Thanks
Mark

Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 08:18 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:09:25 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

You could try strawberries (no slugs to contend with) or, if your window
is really big, a fig.


Thanks Kay... a couple of very interesting ideas!

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

Thanks
Mark


Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 08:18 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:09:25 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

You could try strawberries (no slugs to contend with) or, if your window
is really big, a fig.


Thanks Kay... a couple of very interesting ideas!

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

Thanks
Mark


Nick Maclaren 30-07-2004 09:16 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.


Do you REALLY mean that the room is eleven inches high?

If you mean feet, then you have a fair amount of space. I would NOT
recommend a peach, as they are tricky. My Feijoa has flowered for
the first time, and I am overjoyed to find that the (very decorative
and edible) flowers are SWEET! As it also has attractive leaves,
and is drought resistant, you might like to try it.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets. I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.
But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren 30-07-2004 09:16 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.


Do you REALLY mean that the room is eleven inches high?

If you mean feet, then you have a fair amount of space. I would NOT
recommend a peach, as they are tricky. My Feijoa has flowered for
the first time, and I am overjoyed to find that the (very decorative
and edible) flowers are SWEET! As it also has attractive leaves,
and is drought resistant, you might like to try it.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets. I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.
But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 10:05 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On 30 Jul 2004 20:16:24 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.


Do you REALLY mean that the room is eleven inches high?


*blush*... I mean 11 feet.

If you mean feet, then you have a fair amount of space. I would NOT
recommend a peach, as they are tricky. My Feijoa has flowered for
the first time, and I am overjoyed to find that the (very decorative
and edible) flowers are SWEET! As it also has attractive leaves,
and is drought resistant, you might like to try it.


I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.


During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.


I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.


No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.

Thanks
Mark

Mark Blewett 30-07-2004 10:05 PM

Window sill gardening
 
On 30 Jul 2004 20:16:24 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.


Do you REALLY mean that the room is eleven inches high?


*blush*... I mean 11 feet.

If you mean feet, then you have a fair amount of space. I would NOT
recommend a peach, as they are tricky. My Feijoa has flowered for
the first time, and I am overjoyed to find that the (very decorative
and edible) flowers are SWEET! As it also has attractive leaves,
and is drought resistant, you might like to try it.


I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.


During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.


I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.


No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.

Thanks
Mark

Franz Heymann 30-07-2004 10:33 PM

Window sill gardening
 

"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large

south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad

leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food

and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a

part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good

choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)



I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a

peach tree
would be a bit big.


What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space.


It sounds slightly larger than Queen Mary's doll's house. ( Or was it
Queen Victoria's?) {:-))

Franz



Franz Heymann 30-07-2004 10:33 PM

Window sill gardening
 

"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large

south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad

leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food

and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a

part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good

choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)



I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a

peach tree
would be a bit big.


What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space.


It sounds slightly larger than Queen Mary's doll's house. ( Or was it
Queen Victoria's?) {:-))

Franz



Kay 30-07-2004 11:30 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 30-07-2004 11:30 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 30-07-2004 11:34 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

No. I have a Brown Turkey, which is the most commonly grown in the UK,
and I find its fruits richer and more luscious than the dark blue figs
in the shops. Try Reads Nursery - they have an informative web site,
and I'm pretty sure they do figs.

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 30-07-2004 11:34 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

No. I have a Brown Turkey, which is the most commonly grown in the UK,
and I find its fruits richer and more luscious than the dark blue figs
in the shops. Try Reads Nursery - they have an informative web site,
and I'm pretty sure they do figs.

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 30-07-2004 11:34 PM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

No. I have a Brown Turkey, which is the most commonly grown in the UK,
and I find its fruits richer and more luscious than the dark blue figs
in the shops. Try Reads Nursery - they have an informative web site,
and I'm pretty sure they do figs.

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Mark Blewett 31-07-2004 12:30 AM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large

south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad

leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food

and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a

part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good

choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)


I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a

peach tree
would be a bit big.


What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space.


It sounds slightly larger than Queen Mary's doll's house. ( Or was it
Queen Victoria's?) {:-))


I'm feeling really embarrassed now :o) .. the only excuse I can offer
is that as a software engineer I use " key rather more often than the
' key... so when the brain thinks quotes.. the fingers follow (and
sometimes not as the case maybe!)

Regards
Mark



Mark Blewett 31-07-2004 12:30 AM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large

south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad

leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food

and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a

part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good

choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)


I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a

peach tree
would be a bit big.


What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space.


It sounds slightly larger than Queen Mary's doll's house. ( Or was it
Queen Victoria's?) {:-))


I'm feeling really embarrassed now :o) .. the only excuse I can offer
is that as a software engineer I use " key rather more often than the
' key... so when the brain thinks quotes.. the fingers follow (and
sometimes not as the case maybe!)

Regards
Mark



Mark Blewett 31-07-2004 12:32 AM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:30:29 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)


How long should I forget about them?


Mark Blewett 31-07-2004 12:32 AM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:30:29 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)


How long should I forget about them?


Mark Blewett 31-07-2004 12:38 AM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:34:38 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

No. I have a Brown Turkey, which is the most commonly grown in the UK,
and I find its fruits richer and more luscious than the dark blue figs
in the shops. Try Reads Nursery - they have an informative web site,
and I'm pretty sure they do figs.


Thanks.. just having a gander now.

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)


So whats the other?

Mark Blewett 31-07-2004 12:38 AM

Window sill gardening
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:34:38 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

No. I have a Brown Turkey, which is the most commonly grown in the UK,
and I find its fruits richer and more luscious than the dark blue figs
in the shops. Try Reads Nursery - they have an informative web site,
and I'm pretty sure they do figs.


Thanks.. just having a gander now.

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)


So whats the other?

Franz Heymann 31-07-2004 07:04 AM

Window sill gardening
 

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Mark

Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow

;-)

I've lost my "pip book". That comes from showing it to friends. I
have forgotten the name of the author and the publisherand would
appreciate it if any urgler would let me have the information, as I
would like to hunt for a replacement copy.

Franz




Franz Heymann 31-07-2004 07:04 AM

Window sill gardening
 

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Mark

Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow

;-)

I've lost my "pip book". That comes from showing it to friends. I
have forgotten the name of the author and the publisherand would
appreciate it if any urgler would let me have the information, as I
would like to hunt for a replacement copy.

Franz




Kay 31-07-2004 07:04 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:30:29 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)


How long should I forget about them?

That depends on whether they grow or not! If they don't grow, you may
safely forget them for years, decades even.

Even if they do grow. it's perfectly OK to forget completely where
they've come from and treat them as a totally unexpected new plant in
need of care ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 31-07-2004 07:04 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:30:29 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)


How long should I forget about them?

That depends on whether they grow or not! If they don't grow, you may
safely forget them for years, decades even.

Even if they do grow. it's perfectly OK to forget completely where
they've come from and treat them as a totally unexpected new plant in
need of care ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 31-07-2004 07:05 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:34:38 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

No. I have a Brown Turkey, which is the most commonly grown in the UK,
and I find its fruits richer and more luscious than the dark blue figs
in the shops. Try Reads Nursery - they have an informative web site,
and I'm pretty sure they do figs.


Thanks.. just having a gander now.

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.

I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)


So whats the other?


Asparagus. You'd find that a real challenge to grow on a windowsill ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 31-07-2004 07:05 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Mark Blewett
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:34:38 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes

Yes I do have a very big window (8" x 8").. and love figs. I'll
definetly have to investigate this idea! Have you any experience in
varieties?

No. I have a Brown Turkey, which is the most commonly grown in the UK,
and I find its fruits richer and more luscious than the dark blue figs
in the shops. Try Reads Nursery - they have an informative web site,
and I'm pretty sure they do figs.


Thanks.. just having a gander now.

Strawberries.. a stunning idea.. one which I haven't though of.. it's
now on my to do list. Thanks!

Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.

I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)


So whats the other?


Asparagus. You'd find that a real challenge to grow on a windowsill ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Kay 31-07-2004 07:35 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Mark

Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?


Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow

;-)

I've lost my "pip book". That comes from showing it to friends. I
have forgotten the name of the author and the publisherand would
appreciate it if any urgler would let me have the information, as I
would like to hunt for a replacement copy.

Try abebooks - internet consortium of second hand bookshops.
A name like keith Mossiman dredges itself up from the depths of my
memory - could be completely wrong.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Nick Maclaren 31-07-2004 10:56 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

*blush*... I mean 11 feet.


That shows that you are human - on Usenet, only trolls never make
mistakes.

I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.


Yes. But I can't speak from any great experience, but signs are good
so far.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.


During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).


Grrk. 30 isn't a problem, 40 can cause trouble for some plants, and
50 is bad news for anything except dry terrain tropicals.

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)


Peaches wouldn't like that - they prefer winter chill. You should
concentrate on subtropicals - my experience is that the dry terrain
ones are usually fairly easy, but the humid area ones can be very
tricky.

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.


Go for plants that thrive in savanna-like climates, and they will
almost certainly do best. That is quite a choice.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.


I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?


Pretty easy. They get attacked by red spider mite and mealybug (what
doesn't), but spraying with soft soap or detergent/meths keeps that
under control. It might be a trifle hot for it in summer, but most
citrus are pretty heat-resistant if there is still some water at
their roots. I.e. you will need a decent-sized pot. And, like most
other citrus, their foliage is attractive.

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.


No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.


Good. See above about the pot. They can't stand waterlogging, either,
but don't like drying out in hot conditions. Plants that CAN take
that include Strelitzia (bird of paradise), but that is not edible.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren 31-07-2004 10:56 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

*blush*... I mean 11 feet.


That shows that you are human - on Usenet, only trolls never make
mistakes.

I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.


Yes. But I can't speak from any great experience, but signs are good
so far.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.


During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).


Grrk. 30 isn't a problem, 40 can cause trouble for some plants, and
50 is bad news for anything except dry terrain tropicals.

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)


Peaches wouldn't like that - they prefer winter chill. You should
concentrate on subtropicals - my experience is that the dry terrain
ones are usually fairly easy, but the humid area ones can be very
tricky.

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.


Go for plants that thrive in savanna-like climates, and they will
almost certainly do best. That is quite a choice.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.


I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?


Pretty easy. They get attacked by red spider mite and mealybug (what
doesn't), but spraying with soft soap or detergent/meths keeps that
under control. It might be a trifle hot for it in summer, but most
citrus are pretty heat-resistant if there is still some water at
their roots. I.e. you will need a decent-sized pot. And, like most
other citrus, their foliage is attractive.

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.


No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.


Good. See above about the pot. They can't stand waterlogging, either,
but don't like drying out in hot conditions. Plants that CAN take
that include Strelitzia (bird of paradise), but that is not edible.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren 31-07-2004 10:58 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article ,
Kay wrote:
In article , Mark Blewett
writes


Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)


I am a great fan - I was weaned on them :-) - but have failed dismally.
Last year, none germinated. This year, they did OK until I planted
them out in the polytunnel, when they started to lose leaves. This
correlated with cold conditions - I suspect that they really can't
handle temperatures of below (say) 15 Celcius at night.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren 31-07-2004 10:58 AM

Window sill gardening
 
In article ,
Kay wrote:
In article , Mark Blewett
writes


Not fruit, but okra are fun indoors if you haven't tried them yet.


I have to say I'm not a fan of okra.. in fact although I'll eat
anything they are below broad beans in my book of nice things to eat!

They're below broad beans in my book, too, but that places them about
third ;-)


I am a great fan - I was weaned on them :-) - but have failed dismally.
Last year, none germinated. This year, they did OK until I planted
them out in the polytunnel, when they started to lose leaves. This
correlated with cold conditions - I suspect that they really can't
handle temperatures of below (say) 15 Celcius at night.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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