paint sprayer/gun for fences?
 

Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy using some
kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible). Any ideas?


Many thanks!!

Kind regards


Oo

"Oo" wrote in message
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Hi
I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy using
some
kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible). Any ideas?
Many thanks!!
Kind regards
Oo

I bought an Earlex one from Machine Mart last year (approx £60)
Works well, uses paint/preserver straight from the can via tube, can't fault
it.
I remove the panels proir to spraying to ensure the edges and bottoms
receive some paint as well.
Saves alot of time (approx 1/2 the time of brushing), sprayed my Fathers
panels
a couple of weeks ago, he was very impressed.
Just make sure the sprayer is cleaned properly after use
and check the model you purchase is suitable for the thicker types of wood
preserver.
HTH
Anthony

"Oo" wrote in message
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Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy using
some
kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible). Any ideas?

I have one that cost about £35 from Homebase. It works well - VERY well in
fact - but I now wish it had a greater capacity in the tank.

Therefore my suggestion would be; get one that claims to handle the
thickness of preservative you want to spray but get as large a capacity tank
as you can afford.
--
Brian
Sig: I have nothing to say

"Oo" wrote in message ...
Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy using some
kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible). Any ideas?


I have a pump-up one sold by Cuprinol, which appears to be a hozelock
with a different nozzle.

Works fine with http://tinyurl.co.uk/qqe3 . Very well indeed, in
fact. There is some sort of wax in this which will eventually clog
the nozzle. But very easy to control, the 'wand' goes behind plants
easily (I use a small bit of hardboard in the other hand to mask the
plants from the spray) and does a good job of even coating. Start
from the top and work down.

Gets clogged up by http://tinyurl.co.uk/ffqj but then they say you
need something else to spray this stuff - Can't imagine what, it has a
huge amount of suspended solids. No actual sprayer is mentioned on
the web site.

They should be banned and people like you who use them
jailed for inflicting airborn contaminants/vocs/preservatives
on your neighbours.


On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:31:26 +0100, Oo wrote:

Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy using
some kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible). Any
ideas?


Many thanks!!

Kind regards


Oo

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:31:26 +0100, Oo wrote:

Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy
using
some kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible).
Any
ideas?

"roy" wrote in message
...
They should be banned and people like you who use them
jailed for inflicting airborn contaminants/vocs/preservatives
on your neighbours.


Perhaps if you had expanded on your reasons for this, and possibly a
link, with further information on the dangers of spraying preservatives,
people would take more notice of what you have contributed.
I have never sprayed a fence, but I was unaware that there would be a
problem with spraying, in fact, I have never even considered that there
could be a problem, but to suggest jailing me for not being aware,
without even offering any education on the subject, seems a bit extreme.

Oo wrote:
Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy
using some kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as
possible). Any ideas?



if you're using creosote then some grades can be sprayed using a
standard cheap garden pressure sprayer.

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:39:31 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

in fact, I have never even considered that there
could be a problem, but to suggest jailing me for not being aware,
without even offering any education on the subject, seems a bit extreme.

Ignorance of the law is no defence. It is an offence to pollute the
atmosphere ... full stop.

As the previous poster asked is there any evidence that the atmosphere is
polluted by spraying preservatives rather than just girlie hysterics.

We are discussing spraying not atomising I thought.

It appears that you are the ones being rather ignorant.

One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier posting
contains a particularly toxic cocktail of pollutants.


I suggest you don't drink it then.

In article ,
Walt Davidson writes:
| On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:39:31 +0100, "GwG" wrote:
|
| in fact, I have never even considered that there
| could be a problem, but to suggest jailing me for not being aware,
| without even offering any education on the subject, seems a bit extreme.
|
| Ignorance of the law is no defence. It is an offence to pollute the
| atmosphere ... full stop.

No, it isn't. If it were, using a motor vehicle would be a crime.
And spraying a fence is not an offence.

| One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier posting
| contains a particularly toxic cocktail of pollutants.

If you mean creosote then, yes, it does. But they are not particularly
volatile, and the main danger is to the person applying it. It is
also grossly exaggerated by the scientifically ignorant.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:39:31 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

in fact, I have never even considered that there
could be a problem, but to suggest jailing me for not being aware,
without even offering any education on the subject, seems a bit
extreme.

Ignorance of the law is no defence. It is an offence to pollute the
atmosphere ... full stop.


It would have been helpful to have a reference to a particular law
regarding fence spraying, (as this is what is being discussed here),
then I might be suitably informed of what I am being ignorant about. Is
it just certain chemicals that should not be sprayed, or is it illegal
to spray any preservatives on a fence, no matter how safe that
preservative may be?

One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier posting
contains a particularly toxic cocktail of pollutants.

If so, why not name the preservative, instead of vaguely referring to it
as "One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier posting"
I have read somewhere that certain forms of creosote are harmful, but I
think those forms of creosote are harmful, no matter how they are
applied, so they probably should not be used anyway.
Am I being ignorant of the law regarding the spraying of preservatives
on fences, or does the law specifically refer to the spraying of toxic
substances on fences?

creosote substitute is available and a great deal cheaper than all these
fancy colours at even fancier prices. but under no circumstances us a spray
gun with this product, good luck . i recent ly painted all my fences and am
having alie down

Walt Davidson wrote:
On 19 Aug 2004 11:10:42 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

Ignorance of the law is no defence. It is an offence to pollute
the atmosphere ... full stop.

No, it isn't. If it were, using a motor vehicle would be a crime.

It is, if you do not comply with EU air pollution regulations (e.g.
the compulsory use of catalytic convertors, etc).
Good day to you.

All due respect but what a load of ********. One of my cars wouldn't even
know what a Cat looks like.
Ignorance can work from all angles, if you are not aware of the *full* facts
then don't try and offer advice (scaremonger) as if you know what you are
talking about.
From a personal point of view, if I had a neighbour who started quoting EU
regulations and VOC's I would buy the largest, noisiest compressor I could
find and spray away to my hearts content.......with a big smile on my face.
Have a nice day now.

VS


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Walt Davidson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:05:32 +0100, "Viking Stodge"
wrote:

All due respect

And none at all to you.

Why does that not surprise me?

From a personal point of view, if I had a neighbour who started
quoting EU regulations and VOC's I would buy the largest, noisiest
compressor I could find and spray away to my hearts
content.......with a big smile on my face.

I expect you would .... like the selfish, antisocial ******* that you
are.

Yet again spoken from a position of ignorance. Hurray, we have found a
subject you truly are a master at, a subject you can truly speak with an air
of authority......oh dear, is it possible to speak authoritively about
ignorance? I suppose only you can truly say. Please tell.

Have a nice life.

Thanks, I am.

VS





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"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:01:53 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

It would have been helpful to have a reference to a particular law
regarding fence spraying, (as this is what is being discussed here),
then I might be suitably informed of what I am being ignorant about.
Is
it just certain chemicals that should not be sprayed, or is it
illegal
to spray any preservatives on a fence, no matter how safe that
preservative may be?

THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT 1990 (EPA 1990)
Part I: Integrated Pollution Control (IPC) and Local Authority Air
Pollution Control (LAAPC)

Section PG6/33(97) - wood coating processes.

HTH.


Well no it doesn't help in this case, but thanks for looking it up.
This seems to concern the manufacture of wood products, not the
painting of a garden fence, so hardly relevant here.
In fact, the quotes below taken from the site, contradict the belief
that there may be a law on fence spraying, unless you have a very big
fence.
Quote

Coating Timber Products

You will need a permit if you coat wood and the process involves the use
of over 5 tonnes of organic solvent in any 12 month period.

Solvent Use

Coating of wooden surfaces is a listed activity in the EU Solvents
Emissions Directive (SED). The SED aims to reduce the amount of Volatile
Organic Compounds (VOCs) released to air by phasing out certain solvents
and reducing emissions of others. If you are carrying out coating of
wood and use more than 15 tonnes of solvent per annum, your
Environmental Regulator or local authority will take the requirements of
the SED into account when setting the conditions of your permit. You may
need to be taking action now, use the links below for more information
on SED./Quote

In article ,
Walt Davidson writes:
|
| Without doubt, noxious vapours emitted as a result of spraying garden
| fences with preservatives would come under the heading of "fumes or
| gases from private dwellings". Even an unpleasant odour from the
| preservative agent used might be deemed to "interfere with a person's
| legitimate use of land, such as neighbours in their homes and
| gardens".

I await your first private prosecution on the matter - it would
be worth a trip to attend court on that day. Do you know the
expression "laughed out of court"?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

GwG wrote:
"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...


snip

the SED into account when setting the conditions of your permit. You may
need to be taking action now, use the links below for more information
on SED./Quote

Sorry to but in, but aren't you spending a little too much time arguing
with an obvious nutter?

Walt Davidson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:37:42 GMT, yoss
wrote:


Sorry to but in, but aren't you spending a little too much time arguing
with an obvious nutter?


I know both he and you are obvious nutters ... but hey, it's fun!
:-)


Oi! Leave me out of this. :p

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:01:53 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

If so, why not name the preservative, instead of vaguely referring to it
as "One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier posting"
I have read somewhere that certain forms of creosote are harmful, but I
think those forms of creosote are harmful, no matter how they are
applied, so they probably should not be used anyway.
Am I being ignorant of the law regarding the spraying of preservatives
on fences, or does the law specifically refer to the spraying of toxic
substances on fences?

Hi,

All preservatives will have a 'COSHH/MHDS' sheet available from the
manufacturers which will give precautions for application and use.

Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
alternatives available.

cheers,
Pete.

In article ,
Pete C writes:
|
| Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
| make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
| neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
| alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Pete C writes:

Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might
not make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to
your neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are
better alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.


I know this link is for Solihul, but it is a countrywide law and this site
explains it quite well.
http://www.solihull.gov.uk/wwwce/asp...cle.asp?id=349

"Tenex" wrote
if you're using creosote then some grades can be sprayed using a
standard cheap garden pressure sprayer.

Which inspired me to chase up the current rules on Creosote. Best I
found was http://www.hse.gov.uk/hthdir/noframes/creosote.htm It's no
longer even legal to use up old stock bought before the ban, it seems.

It's still available for industrial processes, but the controls are
severe.

If you google for 'creosote substitute' then there are a few availble,
and I have bought one from a local hardware store. Not sure I'd put
it in a sprayer, though, any more than I would old fashioned creosote.

"roy" wrote in message
...
They should be banned

They aren't and there is not a law against using them.

and people like you who use them
jailed for inflicting airborn contaminants/vocs/preservatives

You don't know what type of 'paint' I am planning to spray do you?

on your neighbours.

Who said I had neighbours?

If you want to make and song and dance about polluting the air I suggest you
begin by having a go at industry such as municipal waste incinerators and
other industrial processes. Or how about the release of radioactive gases
into the air by nuclear power stations, and the greenhouse gases emissions
produced by destructive logging and burning fossil fuels like oil, coal and
gas? Have ago at industry and the government if you want to be productive in
stopping air pollution, but I doubt being productive is your forte. In fact
lets hope for the sake of humanity that you are not capable of
re-production - not having children would be your greatest contribution to
this planet.

Why have a go at a guy painting his fence...I suggest you remove whatever it
is that has crawled up your arse and died. (and dispose of it safely and in
an environmentally friendly way.)

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:31:26 +0100, Oo wrote:

Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy using
some kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible). Any
ideas?


Many thanks!!

Kind regards


Oo

THANKS to those who responded with *useful* and informative info.


"Oo" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have quite a bit of garden fencing that needs painted, I fancy using
some kind of sprayer (preferably electric and as cheap as possible). Any
ideas?


Many thanks!!

Kind regards


Oo

In article ,
Jackie Green . uk wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Pete C writes:

Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might
not make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to
your neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are
better alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.

I know this link is for Solihul, but it is a countrywide law and this site
explains it quite well.
http://www.solihull.gov.uk/wwwce/asp...cle.asp?id=349

That figures. "Domestic use isn't a serious problem, so we are making
it illegal." Typical of those idiots.

But that wasn't the point. I queried the statement that there were
better products available. Most of the gimmicky ones encouraged for
domestic use will colour the wood, and do little else.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:39:31 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

in fact, I have never even considered that there
could be a problem, but to suggest jailing me for not being aware,
without even offering any education on the subject, seems a bit
extreme.

Ignorance of the law is no defence. It is an offence to pollute the
atmosphere ... full stop.

That is twaddle. Think of motor cars, electric power plants,
bonfires, incinerators.............

One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier posting
contains a particularly toxic cocktail of pollutants.

Which preservative?
What does the cocktail of pollutants consist of?
Why should spraying a fence necessarily pollute the atmosphere? I
would have thought the spray components which don't land on the fence
would settle out in a matter of a few tens of seconds.

Franz

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
Walt Davidson writes:
| On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:39:31 +0100, "GwG" wrote:
|
| in fact, I have never even considered that there
| could be a problem, but to suggest jailing me for not being
aware,
| without even offering any education on the subject, seems a bit
extreme.
|
| Ignorance of the law is no defence. It is an offence to pollute
the
| atmosphere ... full stop.

No, it isn't. If it were, using a motor vehicle would be a crime.
And spraying a fence is not an offence.

| One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier
posting
| contains a particularly toxic cocktail of pollutants.

If you mean creosote then, yes, it does. But they are not
particularly
volatile, and the main danger is to the person applying it. It is
also grossly exaggerated by the scientifically ignorant.

Unless my memory is wrong, creosote is no longer a component of the
wood preservatives on the retail market.

Franz

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...

[snip]
I am not here to argue with you.

What was the purpose of your intervention then?

Franz

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:05:32 +0100, "Viking Stodge"
wrote:

All due respect

And none at all to you.

From a personal point of view, if I had a neighbour who started
quoting EU
regulations and VOC's I would buy the largest, noisiest compressor
I could
find and spray away to my hearts content.......with a big smile on
my face.

I expect you would .... like the selfish, antisocial ******* that
you
are.

Well, you don'e exactly appear to be a very social sort of *******.
Are you constipated or something?

Franz

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:01:53 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

It would have been helpful to have a reference to a particular law
regarding fence spraying, (as this is what is being discussed
here),
then I might be suitably informed of what I am being ignorant
about. Is
it just certain chemicals that should not be sprayed, or is it
illegal
to spray any preservatives on a fence, no matter how safe that
preservative may be?

THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT 1990 (EPA 1990)
Part I: Integrated Pollution Control (IPC) and Local Authority Air
Pollution Control (LAAPC)

Section PG6/33(97) - wood coating processes.

It is difficult for me to get a copy of that document. Perhaps you
couls post one or two relevant sentences here? You would then be
educating a large number of urglers simultaneously.

Franz

Franz

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:31:20 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

Without doubt, noxious vapours emitted as a result of spraying
garden
fences with preservatives would come under the heading of "fumes or
gases from private dwellings".

Which idiot other than you would contemplate spraying his garden fence
from a position in his private dwelling? Surely it would be more
efficacious to stand right next to the fence?

Even an unpleasant odour from the
preservative agent used might be deemed to "interfere with a
person's
legitimate use of land, such as neighbours in their homes and
gardens".

As would a mighty fart.

Have you ever been in the countryside when the farmers are occupied
with muckspreading? Is it illegal? My house and garden are enveloped
in what is euphemistically called an agricultural smell at those
times. Do you really think I could sue the farmers?

Franz

In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:

Have you ever been in the countryside when the farmers are occupied
with muckspreading? Is it illegal? My house and garden are enveloped
in what is euphemistically called an agricultural smell at those
times. Do you really think I could sue the farmers?

Yes. Unless you are classified as a pernicious litigant or whatever
the term is, you can sue anyone for anything. You would enrich the
lawyers and please the editors of the local papers, but not achieve
much else.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 19 Aug 2004 16:30:02 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:


In article ,
Pete C writes:
|
| Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
| make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
| neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
| alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.
Hi,

Something based on copper napthanate, aceypetacs zinc/copper,
permethrin, among others, take your pick.

Still, they're all a bit OTT for fence panels in a normal application,
all that is needed is something with a wax based water repellant and a
biocide.

cheers,
Pete.

In article ,
Pete C wrote:
|
| Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
| make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
| neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
| alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.

Something based on copper napthanate, aceypetacs zinc/copper,
permethrin, among others, take your pick.

All right. They work, and they are all equally nasty, in different
ways. One advantage of creosote is that it is fairly harmless to
the wider environment, though extremely nasty to the local one.
I do not subscribe to the carcinogenesis fetish - that is a creation
of the tabloids and their dependent politicians.

I don't know how well they work relative to creosote, but have heard
that their effect is more-or-less pro rata to their nastiness.

Still, they're all a bit OTT for fence panels in a normal application,
all that is needed is something with a wax based water repellant and a
biocide.

Which does almost nothing to protect the fence against the normal
causes of rot. Not even in an area as dry as this one. If you
can ensure that fence panels do not remain damp for very long,
even untreated softwood lasts fairly well. The problem is stopping
fungal attack (mainly wet rot) in wood that is damp for long
periods.

Those so-called preservatives are the ones I was referring to as
coming in pretty colours.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Oo" wrote in message
...

"roy" wrote in message
...
They should be banned

They aren't and there is not a law against using them.

and people like you who use them
jailed for inflicting airborn contaminants/vocs/preservatives

You don't know what type of 'paint' I am planning to spray do you?

on your neighbours.

Who said I had neighbours?

If you want to make and song and dance about polluting the air I
suggest you
begin by having a go at industry such as municipal waste
incinerators and
other industrial processes. Or how about the release of radioactive
gases
into the air by nuclear power stations,

Down to here you spoke a great deal of sense. However, you are wrong
about the release of radioactive gases into the air by nuclear power
stations. In normal operation, nuclear power stations do not release
any radioactive gases into the air at all. As a matter of fact, the
old coal fired power stations *did* release a considerable amount of
radioactive materials into the atmosphere, but it was not considered
polite to mention that fact.

[snip]

Franz

In article ,
Martin wrote:
On 19 Aug 2004 21:01:30 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

All right. They work, and they are all equally nasty, in different
ways. One advantage of creosote is that it is fairly harmless to
the wider environment, though extremely nasty to the local one.
I do not subscribe to the carcinogenesis fetish - that is a creation
of the tabloids and their dependent politicians.

So in your opinion creosote isn't carcinogenic?

I don't think that you are a complete idiot, so please don't post
like one.

There are three aspects to the carcinogenesis fetish:

1) Regarding carcinogenetic properties as being inherently worse
than other harmful effects, such as "gender bending", teratogenesis,
the induction of early-onset Alzheimers and so on.

2) Regarding any evidence of carcinogenetic properties as being
grounds for banning things, irrespective of whether the evidence is
based on immense exposure or whether the estimated incidence is
negligible.

3) Ignoring the fact that many essential chemicals and other
factors are carcinogenetic, and that excluding everything that has
been shown to be carcinogenetic would be lethal in short order.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Walt Davidson wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:31:18 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

Down to here you spoke a great deal of sense. However, you are wrong
about the release of radioactive gases into the air by nuclear power
stations. In normal operation, nuclear power stations do not release
any radioactive gases into the air at all. As a matter of fact, the
old coal fired power stations *did* release a considerable amount of
radioactive materials into the atmosphere, but it was not considered
polite to mention that fact.

Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I've got them arguing amongst themselves now.

Trust a kraut to stick his nose in and make a dolt of himself.
:-)))))

Ye gods! ANOTHER sock puppet of Pete the Troll. Or something that
can be classified as such with no loss of information.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:

Down to here you spoke a great deal of sense. However, you are wrong
about the release of radioactive gases into the air by nuclear power
stations. In normal operation, nuclear power stations do not release
any radioactive gases into the air at all. As a matter of fact, the
old coal fired power stations *did* release a considerable amount of
radioactive materials into the atmosphere, but it was not considered
polite to mention that fact.

Any more than much of the west and north of the UK is situated on
top of a low-grade uranium ore, and many (most?) chippings used
on roads are 0.001% uranium.

And uranium is radioactive and hence carcinogenic :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:47:24 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


Have you ever been in the countryside when the farmers are occupied
with muckspreading? Is it illegal? My house and garden are
enveloped
in what is euphemistically called an agricultural smell at those
times. Do you really think I could sue the farmers?

People in Bavaria did and were awarded substantial damages.

Unbelievable!
What are the Bavarian farmers supposed to do with the muck, except
spread it around till they lose it?
{:-))

Franz

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:

Have you ever been in the countryside when the farmers are occupied
with muckspreading? Is it illegal? My house and garden are
enveloped
in what is euphemistically called an agricultural smell at those
times. Do you really think I could sue the farmers?

Yes. Unless you are classified as a pernicious litigant or whatever
the term is,

A vexatious litigant.

you can sue anyone for anything. You would enrich the
lawyers and please the editors of the local papers, but not achieve
much else.

I thought so.

Franz

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:47:23 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:01:53 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

It would have been helpful to have a reference to a particular
law
regarding fence spraying, (as this is what is being discussed
here),
then I might be suitably informed of what I am being ignorant
about. Is
it just certain chemicals that should not be sprayed, or is it
illegal
to spray any preservatives on a fence, no matter how safe that
preservative may be?

THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT 1990 (EPA 1990)
Part I: Integrated Pollution Control (IPC) and Local Authority
Air
Pollution Control (LAAPC)

Section PG6/33(97) - wood coating processes.

It is difficult for me to get a copy of that document. Perhaps you
couls post one or two relevant sentences here? You would then be
educating a large number of urglers simultaneously.

It's all here
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1990...00043_en_1.htm

Thanks for the link. However, I don't aim to read all of that, which
is why I asked Walt Davidson to post one or two relevant sentences
here. He did, after all, claim to be familiar with the situation.

Franz