There are rumours among meterological types that it might be a cold
hard winter (latitude of north atlantic wave, seawater temperature
differentials, Canadian jetstream direction, etc.) and I wondered if
anyone on the group had any views?

It's certainly a good year for berries round here, which is one of the
oldest of old men's tales. But I've noticed that we no longer get
seagulls inland when storms occur, so maybe the old wisdom is dented?

ANyone got twinges in thier corns, early/late plant dormancy, earliest
frosts, insects hibernating or any other suggestions about what lies
ahead?

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There are rumours among meterological types that it might be a cold
hard winter (latitude of north atlantic wave, seawater temperature
differentials, Canadian jetstream direction, etc.) and I wondered if
anyone on the group had any views?

'Fraid not.

It's certainly a good year for berries round here, which is one of the
oldest of old men's tales. But I've noticed that we no longer get
seagulls inland when storms occur, so maybe the old wisdom is dented?

Plenty of seagulls round here when the weather's bad - but then I'm only
forty or so miles from the coast.

ANyone got twinges in thier corns, early/late plant dormancy, earliest
frosts, insects hibernating or any other suggestions about what lies
ahead?

A lot of bulbs are coming up, and I've seen cabbage whites laying eggs
up to last week. Viburnum tinus is in flower, whereas when I was a yoof,
the flowers were mainly in bud at Christmas. (And it was called Laurus
tinus then, TAAAW. Perhaps it's got confused?)

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

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om...
There are rumours among meterological types that it might be a cold
hard winter (latitude of north atlantic wave, seawater temperature
differentials, Canadian jetstream direction, etc.) and I wondered if
anyone on the group had any views?

It's certainly a good year for berries round here, which is one of the
oldest of old men's tales. But I've noticed that we no longer get
seagulls inland when storms occur, so maybe the old wisdom is dented?

ANyone got twinges in thier corns, early/late plant dormancy, earliest
frosts, insects hibernating or any other suggestions about what lies
ahead?

The weather men can not give an accurate forecast for a particular spot for
12 hours ahead I don't think I shall pay much attention to them for a whole
winter! and mild and cold mean different things to different people, I
thought last winter was the worst in 20 years, overall it may not have had
lots of cold days but it had the sharpest frost late on and it did the most
damage and I lost the most plants. wind wise it was however quite quiet with
only a couple of storms above 80 mph

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Robert E A Harvey wrote:
:: There are rumours among meterological types that it might be a cold
:: hard winter (latitude of north atlantic wave, seawater temperature
:: differentials, Canadian jetstream direction, etc.) and I wondered
:: if anyone on the group had any views?
::
:: It's certainly a good year for berries round here, which is one of
:: the oldest of old men's tales. But I've noticed that we no longer
:: get seagulls inland when storms occur, so maybe the old wisdom is
:: dented?
::
:: ANyone got twinges in thier corns, early/late plant dormancy,
:: earliest frosts, insects hibernating or any other suggestions
:: about what lies ahead?

Most of my bedding plants have put on a fresh show in the past 2 weeks, the
lobelias most noticeably were 'dead' - all yellow and dried up, now they are
a profusion of blue and purple flowers again, as are the verbenas.

"Robert E A Harvey" wrote in message
om...
There are rumours among meterological types that it might be a cold
hard winter (latitude of north atlantic wave, seawater temperature
differentials, Canadian jetstream direction, etc.) and I wondered
if
anyone on the group had any views?

The weather is essentially a chaotic dynamical system. I would place
exactly zero faith in such a long term forecast.

One week ahead is about as much as weather forecasters can expect to
produce moderately accurate predictions.

Franz

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Franz

"Robert E A Harvey" wrote in message
ANyone got twinges in thier corns, early/late plant dormancy, earliest
frosts, insects hibernating or any other suggestions about what lies
ahead?

Strangely over the last couple of weeks I've had a bunch of shoots spring up
in the front garden that I expected to see in the spring. Presume they'll
die as soon as frost hits though!




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