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dave @ stejonda 19-11-2002 10:25 AM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?

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Nick Gray 19-11-2002 10:56 AM

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"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?

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Hi Dave,

When you say handsaw do you mean a pruning saw or a bow saw? A good sharp
bow saw should do the job as quickly and effortlessly as an angle grinder. I
don't think I'd like to use an angle grinder - something spinning that fast
at just above head level, when a large section of tree is about to land on
it could mean trouble.

Just had a look on the B&Q site - they have the Wilkinson Sword 21" bow saw
for £9.98

HTH

Cheers

Nick
http://www.ukgardening.co.uk



Nick Maclaren 19-11-2002 11:01 AM

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In article , "dave @ stejonda" writes:
| I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
| edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
| am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
| would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
| relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
| catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
| probably 3". What do folks think?

This is where you want a Star Wars sword/torch/whatsit :-)

More seriously, the reason that you take too long with a hand
saw is that you have an inadequate hand saw. If you get a
decent bow saw with a decent blade, then cutting through 3" of
leylandii is nothing - under a minute, even for a horizontal
cut. CONSIDERABLY faster than you will do it with an angle
grinder.

For 3" trunks, any saw size from 18" upwards will be fine.


Regards,
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University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
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dave @ stejonda 19-11-2002 11:20 AM

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In message , Nick Gray
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?


When you say handsaw do you mean a pruning saw or a bow saw? A good sharp
bow saw should do the job as quickly and effortlessly as an angle grinder.


Ahh, good point. I've been using a bow saw which was new last year.
Maybe I just need to replace it/blade.

I
don't think I'd like to use an angle grinder - something spinning that fast
at just above head level, when a large section of tree is about to land on
it could mean trouble.


Very true.

Just had a look on the B&Q site - they have the Wilkinson Sword 21" bow saw
for £9.98

wow! - thanks.

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Grahame Fendle 19-11-2002 12:11 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?


What Nick said. Bow saw is by far the easiest, and I'd be worried about an
angle-grider jamming.


Jon Green 19-11-2002 01:38 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?


FWIW, what I think is that you'll wreck the AG disc (by gacking it up
with sap you can't completely clean off afterwards).

It'd be much cheaper to buy the right tool (sharp saw) for the job than
to replace the disc.

Failing that, consider hiring a chainsaw from a local supplier. Don't
use HSS (or similar), use an agri hire company; much cheaper.


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Andrew 19-11-2002 01:48 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?


Three inches -- pah!? A new bow saw blade will be through that in 30
seconds, and with an assistant pulling the trunk away from the saw cut
witha rope you won't even need to cut a "kerf" out first to stop it
binding. Please, please don't hire a chainsaw unless you've been trained
how to use it, even to drop little leylandii. Especially don't use one
up a ladder...

William Tasso 19-11-2002 03:22 PM

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Xref: 127.0.0.1 uk.rec.gardening:162315

Andrew wrote:
Please, please don't hire a chainsaw unless you've been
trained how to use it, even to drop little leylandii. Especially
don't use one up a ladder...


Gets my vote - Really.

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dave @ stejonda 19-11-2002 03:31 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In message , Andrew
writes

Three inches -- pah!? A new bow saw blade will be through that in 30
seconds, and with an assistant pulling the trunk away from the saw cut
witha rope you won't even need to cut a "kerf" out first to stop it
binding.


I fact whilst the main trunks were 3" this ~50ft row of trees had been
repeatedly hacked over the years so that the actual width of the row was
(still is what's left) around 8ft (yes, eight feet!) along most of it.
I've now done the deed. :)
I had no assistant - no time to arrange one and SO busy working so did
have to contend with some binding. Long-handled loppers did for the
smaller stuff quite adequately. "kerf"? wotsat? - no time for fine
details like that!!!

Please, please don't hire a chainsaw unless you've been trained how to
use it, even to drop little leylandii. Especially don't use one up a
ladder...


No, I'm glad I stayed away from power for that little job.

Incidentally, the rush was that the house next door, in the garden of
which this row of terror was, is rented. The existing tenant died
recently and having been ill for quite some time (and therefore having
been unable, despite repeated promises, to sort the trees) I was advised
this morning off-the record by an agent for the lessors that rather than
trying to get the landowner to do something it would be best if I hacked
them before the new tenants moved in - which could be tomorrow. I hope
they'll be happy with my work, it can only benefit them as well (I'm
aware this is a self-serving argument).

Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.

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DaveDay34 19-11-2002 07:06 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.

--
dave @ stejonda


Dave, I don't think there is much you can do. Some plants can be sprayed with
a hormone treatment which slows down growth. I don't know the name of the
hormone/chemical but the product most often seen in GC's goes under the trade
name of Cutlass. It's only suitable for certain plants, and I think it's not
suitable for leylandii. You can maybe check, but I think you're out of luck,
unless anyone else has any ideas. Personally I'd have the things out
completely as they're such a pain to keep looking tidy and managable. Sorry I
don't have netter news.

Dave.

dave @ stejonda 19-11-2002 07:44 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In message , DaveDay34
writes
Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.

Dave, I don't think there is much you can do. Some plants can be
sprayed with a hormone treatment which slows down growth. I don't know
the name of the hormone/chemical but the product most often seen in
GC's goes under the trade name of Cutlass. It's only suitable for
certain plants, and I think it's not suitable for leylandii. You can
maybe check, but I think you're out of luck, unless anyone else has any
ideas. Personally I'd have the things out completely as they're such a
pain to keep looking tidy and managable. Sorry I don't have netter news.


That's Ok Dave, thanks for the thought. Cutlass (heh thinks... if it's
not suitable for leylandii maybe it would poison them :~ ) would
presumably need reapplying periodically and on someone else's trees (as
they will be) I don't think I could really do that. Hopefully I can
establish good relations with the new neighbours and convince them of
the need to get rid of them in toto.

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Chris French and Helen Johnson 19-11-2002 07:55 PM

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In message , "dave @ stejonda"
writes
In message , Andrew
writes

Re leylandii:


Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.

No need to worry, they won't (or shouldn't) resprout. Unlike deciduous
trees which will normally resprout in such situations (hence coppicing)
conifers don't.

You can leave the stumps if you are happy to leave them , or dig them
out.
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Jon Green 19-11-2002 08:25 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.


A leylandii-hating cynic might think, "Hammer copper nails through the
trunks, wait for them to peg out, then chop 'em off at ground level."


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david 19-11-2002 08:26 PM

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If you've cut them hard back then the chances of them re sprouting is almost
non existent.

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Nick Maclaren 19-11-2002 09:38 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In article ,
Chris French and Helen Johnson wrote:
In message , "dave @ stejonda"
writes

Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.

No need to worry, they won't (or shouldn't) resprout. Unlike deciduous
trees which will normally resprout in such situations (hence coppicing)
conifers don't.


ObPedant: except for the coast redwood and Cretan cypress, which do.
I don't know of any others that do reliably, but I have seen the odd
sprout from old wood on my Korean fir and a few others. Yews are not
conifers, of course.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
Email:
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679

Jane Ransom 19-11-2002 11:00 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In article , Jon Green
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.


A leylandii-hating cynic might think, "Hammer copper nails through the
trunks, wait for them to peg out, then chop 'em off at ground level."

Hello Jon :)
Long time no see !!!!!!!
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dave @ stejonda 20-11-2002 10:06 AM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In message , david
writes
If you've cut them hard back then the chances of them re sprouting is
almost non existent.


goodygoodygoody :)

--
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dave @ stejonda 20-11-2002 10:08 AM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In message , Jon Green
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

Now, can anyone suggest what I might do to the things tonight to stop
them re-sprouting please - something which won't spread through the
soil.


A leylandii-hating cynic might think, "Hammer copper nails through the
trunks, wait for them to peg out, then chop 'em off at ground level."

I like the idea of being sure. What size copper nails do I need to head
out & buy for a surreptitious hammering session this afternoon?

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MrMoosehead 20-11-2002 10:26 AM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
"dave @ stejonda" muttered something
incoherent along the lines of:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?



Paging Steve Auvache!

(x-posted to ukrm for the Anglegrinder-o-philes there)
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Ace 20-11-2002 10:47 AM

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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:26:43 +0000, MrMoosehead
wrote:

"dave @ stejonda" muttered something
incoherent along the lines of:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?



Paging Steve Auvache!

(x-posted to ukrm for the Anglegrinder-o-philes there)


Hmmm., well I'd use the chainsaw, of course, but I guess an angle
grinder would work fine. I don't imagine there'd be any particular
safety issues, other than making sure the tree didn't fall on the
user.

Only problem being that 3" is deeper than the max cutting depth of
many of them (well, mines a 115mm? disc with a max cut of about 1.5" -
not sure what size the larger ones are) so he may have to cut all the
way round, IYSWIM.

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Victoria Clare 20-11-2002 10:47 AM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in
:

In article ,
Chris French and Helen Johnson wrote:

No need to worry, they won't (or shouldn't) resprout. Unlike deciduous
trees which will normally resprout in such situations (hence coppicing)
conifers don't.


ObPedant: except for the coast redwood and Cretan cypress, which do.
I don't know of any others that do reliably, but I have seen the odd
sprout from old wood on my Korean fir and a few others. Yews are not
conifers, of course.


I have one to add to your list, Nick - my Chamaecyparis pisifera
'Boulevard' got horribly abused while I was moving house and no-one
remembered to water it. It just had a tuft of green left on top and looked
very sad, - but is coming back beautifully now.

Which pleases me because I've had it about 15 years now, and it's almost 4
feet tall (if rather taller and thinner than it should be).

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Jon Green 20-11-2002 11:09 AM

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Jane Ransom wrote:

Hello Jon :)
Long time no see !!!!!!!


Hi Jane!

I've been lurking, but only occasionally; having worked myself witless
at work (first reason for newsgroup cut-down), I got laid off earlier
this month, so I've been working myself witless trying to find something
new (second reason).

So it goes. Still, until I've a new job, I've a little more time on my
hands. Well, until the baby arrives in a few weeks....


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Nick Maclaren 20-11-2002 11:12 AM

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In article
Victoria Clare writes:
| (Nick Maclaren) wrote in
| :
|
| ObPedant: except for the coast redwood and Cretan cypress, which do.
| I don't know of any others that do reliably, but I have seen the odd
| sprout from old wood on my Korean fir and a few others. Yews are not
| conifers, of course.
|
| I have one to add to your list, Nick - my Chamaecyparis pisifera
| 'Boulevard' got horribly abused while I was moving house and no-one
| remembered to water it. It just had a tuft of green left on top and looked
| very sad, - but is coming back beautifully now.

Interesting. I wonder how many species there are?


Regards,
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New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
Email:

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Jon Green 20-11-2002 11:41 AM

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"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

I like the idea of being sure. What size copper nails do I need to head
out & buy for a surreptitious hammering session this afternoon?


Heh-heh! Dunno; I guess any size that's pure copper. You'd want to
have nail-heads small enough that they don't show, I s'pose, and bang
enough of them in to be sure.

It's probably considerate not to nail them in at a height that's likely
to be attacked by chainsaws, though: if the chainsaw blade hits metal,
it could cause injury to the chainsaw operator, although copper's softer
than steel, of course.

Not that I'd suggest doing this to someone else's leylandii, of course.
Strictly to nobble your own trees....

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Alan T Gower 20-11-2002 04:32 PM

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"MrMoosehead" wrote in message
...
"dave @ stejonda" muttered something
incoherent along the lines of:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?



The heat generated by the high speed of the cutter would harden the juices
and cause the blade to stick.

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cormaic 20-11-2002 04:35 PM

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'Twas Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:47:43 +0000, when Victoria Clare
enriched all our lives with these worthy
thoughts:

I have one to add to your list, Nick - my Chamaecyparis pisifera
'Boulevard' got horribly abused while I was moving house and no-one
remembered to water it. It just had a tuft of green left on top and looked
very sad, - but is coming back beautifully now.

Which pleases me because I've had it about 15 years now, and it's almost 4
feet tall (if rather taller and thinner than it should be).


Dead easy to do cuttings - I'm on my 4th generation this
autumn : cuttings of a cutting of a cutting of the original
C.p.Boulevard I bought in '91.

The 1 or 2 yr old specimens are great in winter baskets or
tubs.

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John Langfield 20-11-2002 04:40 PM

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"Alan T Gower" wrote in message
. ..
"MrMoosehead" wrote in message
...
"dave @ stejonda" muttered something
incoherent along the lines of:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?



The heat generated by the high speed of the cutter would harden the juices
and cause the blade to stick.


There are two options.

1. Go to a hire shop and hire a chain saw and do it yourself.

2. Have a word with a local farmer and get him to do it with a tractor.

Myself I use option 2. It only cost £10 to do about 240 feet hedge.

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Andy Bonwick 20-11-2002 07:18 PM

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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:26:43 +0000, MrMoosehead
wrote:

"dave @ stejonda" muttered something
incoherent along the lines of:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?



Paging Steve Auvache!

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grinding discs. Personally I'd burn the bloody things but it's not my
choice :-(
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Platypus 20-11-2002 11:58 PM

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MrMoosehead wrote:

"dave @ stejonda" muttered something
incoherent along the lines of:

I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?


Paging Steve Auvache!


IIRC you can get a "chainsaw" disc for angle grinders - possibly from
Machine Mart.

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dave @ stejonda 21-11-2002 05:58 AM

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In message , Jon Green
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote:

I like the idea of being sure. What size copper nails do I need to head
out & buy for a surreptitious hammering session this afternoon?


Heh-heh! Dunno; I guess any size that's pure copper.


....and they, I discovered, are not so easy to find - especially with
tiny heads.

You'd want to
have nail-heads small enough that they don't show, I s'pose, and bang
enough of them in to be sure.

It's probably considerate not to nail them in at a height that's likely
to be attacked by chainsaws, though: if the chainsaw blade hits metal,
it could cause injury to the chainsaw operator, although copper's softer
than steel, of course.


I've just returned from a successful foray out this morning to bang the
nails in. Decided to do it before the workman (who seem to be ripping
the insides out of next door) arrive. Quite an interesting experience
that - creeping around at 0430 in the pouring rain banging copper nails
in trees - made me think of banging stakes into the hearts of vampires
g - this episode has brought a new aspect to my gardening life!

I decided, since I could only find Copper 'Clout' nails which have quite
large heads to go the easy route of banging them in around the perimeter
of the tops of the severed larger trunks. So I've made no attempt to
hide the evidence to anyone who's 8ft tall and looking. I just really
didn't fancy trying to fight my way through the thick lower growth to
find the trunks lower down. Hell, I'm surprised no-one called the
police, me sneaking around with my ladder in the dark.

Not that I'd suggest doing this to someone else's leylandii, of course.
Strictly to nobble your own trees....


Of course g. Well at the moment I'd argue they're nobody's trees - I'm
quite sure the land owner wouldn't want them if given the choice.

Thanks for all your help folks. Now, can anyone tell me *why* copper
nails are going to work?

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Grimly Curmudgeon 21-11-2002 07:55 AM

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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:58:13 +0000, Platypus
wrote:

IIRC you can get a "chainsaw" disc for angle grinders - possibly from
Machine Mart.


http://www.gilbert-mellish.co.uk/pro...uct7frame.html

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dave @ stejonda 21-11-2002 08:56 AM

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In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:58:13 +0000, Platypus
wrote:

IIRC you can get a "chainsaw" disc for angle grinders - possibly from
Machine Mart.


http://www.gilbert-mellish.co.uk/pro...uct7frame.html


errrrm - prosthetic feet???????????

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Nick Maclaren 21-11-2002 09:12 AM

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In article , "dave @ stejonda" writes:
| In message , Grimly
| Curmudgeon writes
| On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:58:13 +0000, Platypus
| wrote:
|
| IIRC you can get a "chainsaw" disc for angle grinders - possibly from
| Machine Mart.
|
| http://www.gilbert-mellish.co.uk/pro...uct7frame.html
|
|
| errrrm - prosthetic feet???????????

Yes. Many people who hire a chainsaw for use up a ladder because
they find a bowsaw too hard to handle will need to buy prosthetic
feet a short while afterwards.


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MrMoosehead 21-11-2002 09:16 AM

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"dave @ stejonda" muttered something
incoherent along the lines of:

In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:58:13 +0000, Platypus
wrote:

IIRC you can get a "chainsaw" disc for angle grinders - possibly from
Machine Mart.


http://www.gilbert-mellish.co.uk/pro...uct7frame.html


errrrm - prosthetic feet???????????


In that you may be needing these after trying the aforementioned
product.
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Jon Green 21-11-2002 12:51 PM

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Bloody good, innit?

Haven't posted for ages, and soon as I do, I'm telling people how to
kill things instead.

I'll, um, get me coat....


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gonad 21-11-2002 01:26 PM

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"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message ...
In message , Nick Gray
writes
"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?


When you say handsaw do you mean a pruning saw or a bow saw? A good sharp
bow saw should do the job as quickly and effortlessly as an angle grinder.


Ahh, good point. I've been using a bow saw which was new last year.
Maybe I just need to replace it/blade.

I
don't think I'd like to use an angle grinder - something spinning that fast
at just above head level, when a large section of tree is about to land on
it could mean trouble.


Very true.

Just had a look on the B&Q site - they have the Wilkinson Sword 21" bow saw
for £9.98

wow! - thanks.



Stop ****ing about and go down the local HSS and hire a proper chainsaw for the day.

Proper job, loads of fun.

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dave @ stejonda 21-11-2002 01:33 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In message , gonad
writes
Stop ****ing about and go down the local HSS and hire a proper chainsaw
for the day.

Proper job, loads of fun.


Thanks for the thought gonad but if you read through the rest of the
thread you'll see I've done the deed. I'm just making sure they've got
the message now.

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dave @ stejonda 21-11-2002 01:36 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In message , Jon Green
writes
Bloody good, innit?

Haven't posted for ages, and soon as I do, I'm telling people how to
kill things instead.


To a caterpillar the cocoon is death but to the master...

There are many plants that will benefit now from the increase in light
reaching them. The only other life-form that will suffer is the moss.

I'll, um, get me coat....


Well, it *is* raining outside, but please, there's no need to go...

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AWM 23-11-2002 08:23 AM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
...
I have an urgent need to decrease to ~7ft a line of Leylandii along one
edge of my garden. Using a handsaw is good for me but takes too long. I
am not prepared to spend money on a chainsaw for this single use. What
would be the issues in using an angle-grinder? The sap is obviously
relatively viscous and non-seepy at the moment so I wouldn't expect
catching from that to be a problem. The maximum trunk diameter is
probably 3". What do folks think?

--
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calculate your ecological footprint

http://www.lead.org/leadnet/footprint/

Use a "chain saw disc" (no kidding !) in the angle grinder Screwfix Direct
sell them -- but take care when using.




DaveDay34 24-11-2002 01:26 PM

using an angle-grinder to cut down live Leylandii
 
In message , Janet Baraclough
writes
Thanks for all your help folks. Now, can anyone tell me *why* copper
nails are going to work?


They aren't, afaik; hammering hundreds of copper pennies into ancient
trees for luck, doesn't kill them. (It's a tradition in some places).


So my nocturnal hammerings were fun but in vain - oh well.

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Coins hammered into trees were traditionally often silver. Coins are also
relatively small and only hammered a relatively short way into the bark of the
tree, so cause no real damage.

The issue with hammering copper nails into the trees to kill them comes from
the chemical imbalance that is caused by introducing too much copper into the
plant/tree's system. Copper is needed by plants to grow, but like many things,
too much of a good thing can be bad for you. The same goes for plants and
trees. Various trees/plants may have varying tolerances for too much copper,
so depending on the type of tree, age, size, etc. the number of copper nails
needed to kill a tree may vary immensely.

Hope this helps, though I understand the offending trees have now been removed
by mechanical means. Best thing that could have happened to them.

Dave.


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