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Mutant Blackberries
Hello,
In the depths of my local nature reserve, there is a blackberry bush that produces abnormally large, sweet blackberries. None of it's neighbours have similar atributes and for the last three years I've been harvesting this one bush for the best freezer jam you've ever tasted. Does anyone know the best way to propagate from this bush? I don't have room for blackberries in my garden, but I'd like to try and plant some in the wild, or maybe pass some on to some other people I know brambles are weeds, but we are talking about blackberries that could cover a two pence piece here! |
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:29:23 +0000, kate7
wrote: Hello, In the depths of my local nature reserve, there is a blackberry bush that produces abnormally large, sweet blackberries. None of it's neighbours have similar atributes and for the last three years I've been harvesting this one bush for the best freezer jam you've ever tasted. Does anyone know the best way to propagate from this bush? I don't have room for blackberries in my garden, but I'd like to try and plant some in the wild, or maybe pass some on to some other people I know brambles are weeds, but we are talking about blackberries that could cover a two pence piece here! Just as an aside.. I've got a number of blackberry bushes dotted around my garden, and I found that some produced significantly larger berries than others - so I lifted offshoots from these bushes and planted them alongside the other bushes in the hope of beefing up the main picking area. By the time the bushes fruited I was rather miffed to find that the fruits weren't anywhere near as large as the ones on the host bush..and never have been. The conclusion I drew from this is that the bushes are of the same variety, but the environmental conditions ( assuming a minimum, of course ) play a major role in determining the size and quality of the fruit. Strangely enough, the best berries come from a patch that only gets the sun for the morning and is overgrown with ground elder. So you may find that whilst you can propagate new bushes, you might not get the huge fruits you expect. Gotta be worth a try though! Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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"Stephen Howard" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:29:23 +0000, kate7 wrote: Hello, In the depths of my local nature reserve, there is a blackberry bush that produces abnormally large, sweet blackberries. None of it's neighbours have similar atributes and for the last three years I've been harvesting this one bush for the best freezer jam you've ever tasted. Does anyone know the best way to propagate from this bush? Propagating anything from your 'local nature reserve' is likely to be severely frowned upon. It is a *reserve*. A *reserved area*, not to be pillaged at everyone's whim. ........... :-) Unless, of course, it is truly *your* nature reserve. -- ned http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk last update 09.07.2005 |
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ned wrote:
"Stephen Howard" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:29:23 +0000, kate7 wrote: Hello, In the depths of my local nature reserve, there is a blackberry bush that produces abnormally large, sweet blackberries. None of it's neighbours have similar atributes and for the last three years I've been harvesting this one bush for the best freezer jam you've ever tasted. Does anyone know the best way to propagate from this bush? Propagating anything from your 'local nature reserve' is likely to be severely frowned upon. It is a *reserve*. A *reserved area*, not to be pillaged at everyone's whim. .......... :-) Unless, of course, it is truly *your* nature reserve. Nonsense! Removing flowers/seeds from a rare plant in a nature reserve is one thing. keeping a few blackberries from the jam pot and propagating is quite another. pk |
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"p.k." wrote in message ... ned wrote: "Stephen Howard" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:29:23 +0000, kate7 wrote: Hello, In the depths of my local nature reserve, there is a blackberry bush that produces abnormally large, sweet blackberries. None of it's neighbours have similar atributes and for the last three years I've been harvesting this one bush for the best freezer jam you've ever tasted. Does anyone know the best way to propagate from this bush? Propagating anything from your 'local nature reserve' is likely to be severely frowned upon. It is a *reserve*. A *reserved area*, not to be pillaged at everyone's whim. .......... :-) Unless, of course, it is truly *your* nature reserve. Nonsense! Removing flowers/seeds from a rare plant in a nature reserve is one thing. keeping a few blackberries from the jam pot and propagating is quite another. Hey, it is a NATURE reserve. Not the local branch of Tesco. The brambles and blackberries are there for the benefit of the wildlife, not to supplement anyone's shopping list. -- ned http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk last update 09.07.2005 |
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In article , ned wrote:
"p.k." wrote in message ... Nonsense! Removing flowers/seeds from a rare plant in a nature reserve is one thing. keeping a few blackberries from the jam pot and propagating is quite another. Hey, it is a NATURE reserve. Not the local branch of Tesco. The brambles and blackberries are there for the benefit of the wildlife, not to supplement anyone's shopping list. You clearly have a minimal understanding of either ecology or botany, which puts you on a par with the goons who make the laws in the UK. Almost all ecologies in the UK were created by human intervention, and none are untouched by it. What the original poster proposed will do no harm. The limit on blackberry's spread in the UK is space (a.k.a. competition) and not the availability of shoots to tip-in. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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The message
from "ned" contains these words: Removing flowers/seeds from a rare plant in a nature reserve is one thing. keeping a few blackberries from the jam pot and propagating is quite another. Hey, it is a NATURE reserve. Not the local branch of Tesco. The brambles and blackberries are there for the benefit of the wildlife, not to supplement anyone's shopping list. This would seem to be a dog-in-the-manger attitude - I've no doubt that the whole area would be covered in brambles in no time if it wasn't managed in some way. Abstracting a (deliberately) rooted scion before it and its fellows can be cut back is not the same as removing the parent. No-one is harmed. However, I would suggest that the administrators are approached, and without mentioning the enormous size of the fruit, get permission to root some ends and remove them. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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In article , p.k.
writes ned wrote: "Stephen Howard" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:29:23 +0000, kate7 wrote: Hello, In the depths of my local nature reserve, there is a blackberry bush that produces abnormally large, sweet blackberries. None of it's neighbours have similar atributes and for the last three years I've been harvesting this one bush for the best freezer jam you've ever tasted. Does anyone know the best way to propagate from this bush? Propagating anything from your 'local nature reserve' is likely to be severely frowned upon. It is a *reserve*. A *reserved area*, not to be pillaged at everyone's whim. .......... :-) Unless, of course, it is truly *your* nature reserve. Nonsense! Removing flowers/seeds from a rare plant in a nature reserve is one thing. keeping a few blackberries from the jam pot and propagating is quite another. Speaking as someone on the management committee of a local nature reserve, you could always try asking! -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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The message
from kate7 contains these words: /snip/ Another word about the plentitude of this finefruit. When my mum was little EVERY child in the village was sent out picking berries for jam.And she says there was still never a shortage. I believe the environment was much better off when communities engaged with it in a sustainable and appreciative way. When I was little I was sent out with a pudding basin to collect blackberries, and I went out with a carrier bag (They were strong brown paper with string handles in those days...) on my own account and picked rose hips, which I took to the local MoF (Ministry of Food) office, where I sold them for lots of money. (I can't remember how much, but I think it was either a penny or tuppence a pound: but when your pocket-money was threppence a week a carrier bag of rose hips was a king's ransom.) -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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